Epson 4490 and B/W Neg.

[Guest]

I have still learning how to use this Epson 4490.
As far as the color slides are concerned I am doing OK.
I have experimented with Black and White negatives.
With 35mm the results are coming good. However when I use the old 120 (2
3/8" / 3 3/8") format utilized in boxes camera the scanning result comes in
two medium size preview. Although the manual specifications are only for
35mm and medium size film I wonder if they is a way to scan that 120 format?

 

[-]

Your post seems a bit unclear to me. Are you saying the film doesn't fit in
the holder? If so, then it seems like it is a format that is close to but
not really 120. You can make your own mask out of black 1 mm thick material
and tape to that for odd-sized film formats. If your problem is really that
the scanner is not auto cropping the negatives correctly, this is a common
issue with scanners. You must manually crop. Auto cropping is often
fooled. I have put up some quick tips here in regard to manual cropping
that might help you:

http://www.betterscanning.com/scanning/batchscanning.html#_Epson_Scan_Twain

Doug

 

[tomm42]

Your post seems a bit unclear to me. Are you saying the film doesn't fit in
the holder? If so, then it seems like it is a format that is close to but
not really 120. You can make your own mask out of black 1 mm thick material
and tape to that for odd-sized film formats. If your problem is really that
the scanner is not auto cropping the negatives correctly, this is a common
issue with scanners. You must manually crop. Auto cropping is often
fooled. I have put up some quick tips here in regard to manual cropping
that might help you:

http://www.betterscanning.com/scanning/batchscanning.html#_Epson_Scan_Twain

Doug

Epson's web site says that the 4490 will take 2 1/4 film. If you have
wider film then you maybe out of luck with this scanner and need the
4990 or V700. There were many odd film sizes until the '70s when the
manufacturers standardized roll film. The V700 takes up to 8x10 film.

Tom

 

[Guest]

Thanks to everyone for their feedback.

The opening (window) in the template is about 2 1/4" X 4 3/4".
The black and white negative (120 format) is approx. 2 3/8" X 3 3/8".
I have no problem inserting the 2 3/8" X 3 3/8 neg.
The preview output is in two parts.
As an example when scanning a 2 3/8" X 3 3/8" neg. showing a person
standing, the preview results is showing one 2 1/4" X 2 1/4" view with the
head and the other with the legs. It almost looks like it is only designed
to scan medium size neg. of 2 1/4" x 2 1/4"? The opening in the template was
probably cut to accommodate two medium size negative at one time?

 

[Harry Stottle]

Thanks to everyone for their feedback.

The opening (window) in the template is about 2 1/4" X 4 3/4".
The black and white negative (120 format) is approx. 2 3/8" X 3 3/8".
I have no problem inserting the 2 3/8" X 3 3/8 neg.
The preview output is in two parts.
As an example when scanning a 2 3/8" X 3 3/8" neg. showing a person
standing, the preview results is showing one 2 1/4" X 2 1/4" view
with the head and the other with the legs. It almost looks like it is
only designed to scan medium size neg. of 2 1/4" x 2 1/4"? The opening
in the template was probably cut to accommodate two medium size
negative at one time?

The 4490 is designed, when using the 120 film holder, to scan 120 size
film. I'm not sure what film size you have (could it be 127?) but a way
round this would be to make two separate images, one the head and body,
and one the legs, then join the images using an image editing problem.

 

[theo]

It almost looks like it is only designed to scan medium size neg. of 2

1/4" x 2 1/4"? The opening in the template was probably cut to
accommodate two medium size negative at one time?

Close but not exclusively correct. Also, this film holder with a bit of
excising can accept 2 of 6x6cm (same size) positive film frames in their
cardboard mounts. Gain, much convenience in handling slides. Loss, some
of focus for depth of field of internal lens.
Brief answer: Preview button, select Normal.
Here's the verbose answer: EpsonScan page: field Mode; either Home or
Professional....field Document Type; either color or B&W negative....field
Image Type will auto-select...field Destination; radio button
Other....field Resolution select 400 for speed for this
experiment....field Target Size will dim when you button Preview's 'down
carat' for Normal vs Thumbnail....now push the Preview button....
Preview window: the buttons in upper left corner are dimmed and the
number below the white square is zero until you put the cursor on the dim
image... cursor converts to crosshairs for cropping. Crop with thin solid
line. When your thumb comes off your mouse button the thin solid line in
the image convert to marching ants, and the white square in the upper left
corner changes its #0 to #1 and the Zoom button alights. Happy Days.
Regards,
Theo

 

[Harry Stottle]

The 4490 is designed, when using the 120 film holder, to scan 120 size
film. I'm not sure what film size you have (could it be 127?) but a
way round this would be to make two separate images, one the head and
body, and one the legs, then join the images using an image editing
problem.

Just checked the film size settings for 120 films.
Configuration - Film Size
And the drop down list gives 6x4.5 6x6 6x7 6x8 and 6x9, so setting this
to 6x9 should give near enough a full frame image from your negative
size (just theory as I have not tested it myself).

 

[tomm42]

I have still learning how to use this Epson 4490.
As far as the color slides are concerned I am doing OK.
I have experimented with Black and White negatives.
With 35mm the results are coming good. However when I use the old 120 (2
3/8" / 3 3/8") format utilized in boxes camera the scanning result comes in
two medium size preview. Although the manual specifications are only for
35mm and medium size film I wonder if they is a way to scan that 120 format?

Sounds like you have a 6x9 negative, not a popular size, but not
oddball either. It is based on 120 film. I always use manual crop on my
V700, do you have that option on the 4490? Try to use professional mode
in Epson Scan, the others seem to be an excersize in futility, the pro
mode is decent scanning software.

Tom