End of XP home this year, what are your plans

[P. Thompson]

"For consumer products, security updates will be available through the end
of the mainstream phase. For Windows XP Home Edition, there will be no
security updates after 12/31/06." Regarding paid support for problems
unrelated to security patches, I was told that "Users who want to continue
to receive support after the Microsoft assisted and paid support offerings
have ended may visit the Retired Product Support Options Web site."

A question for those unfortunate souls running XP home, especially folks
who just bought a PC this holiday season:

What are your plans for the end of support for XP home?

XP "professional"
Vista
Linux


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[BC]

Win98

-BC

 

[DL]

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/lifecycle/servicepacks.mspx

 

[Sean Cousins]

"For consumer products, security updates will be available through the end
of the mainstream phase. For Windows XP Home Edition, there will be no
security updates after 12/31/06." Regarding paid support for problems
unrelated to security patches, I was told that "Users who want to continue
to receive support after the Microsoft assisted and paid support offerings
have ended may visit the Retired Product Support Options Web site."

A question for those unfortunate souls running XP home, especially folks
who just bought a PC this holiday season:

What are your plans for the end of support for XP home?

XP "professional"
Vista
Linux

Post your source. I still get security patches from Microsoft for
Win98SE even. I'll probably be using Vista on this PC by the end of
the year anyway.

 

[Guest]

It seems you don't know what you are talking about.

Foxhole

 

[Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE]

"For consumer products, security updates will be available through
the end of the mainstream phase. For Windows XP Home Edition, there
will be no security updates after 12/31/06." Regarding paid support
for problems unrelated to security patches, I was told that "Users
who want to continue to receive support after the Microsoft assisted
and paid support offerings have ended may visit the Retired Product
Support Options Web site."
A question for those unfortunate souls running XP home, especially
folks who just bought a PC this holiday season:

What are your plans for the end of support for XP home?

I wonder how this lie got started. SP3 for WinXP Home is scheduled for the
second half of '07. Of course MS does expect you to have SP2 installed by
now if not by the end of the year.

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[Winux P]

Preacher of doom...

:
: "For consumer products, security updates will be available through the end
: of the mainstream phase. For Windows XP Home Edition, there will be no
: security updates after 12/31/06." Regarding paid support for problems
: unrelated to security patches, I was told that "Users who want to continue
: to receive support after the Microsoft assisted and paid support offerings
: have ended may visit the Retired Product Support Options Web site."
:
Have you read
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/lifecycle/servicepacks.mspx

as of yet and dare I say understood it?

: A question for those unfortunate souls running XP home, especially folks
: who just bought a PC this holiday season:

Actually I believe those souls are most propably happy with their purchase
decisions, and the folks that did buy a PC this holiday season will be using
the system for at least the next few years with, that's correct Windows XP
Home Edition with updates from here until a long time.

: What are your plans for the end of support for XP home?

That's quite far off by then the folks that bought a PC this holiday season
will be buying one on that far off holiday season again.

:
: XP "professional" - Why? Is everyone with Home going to join a domain all
the sudden?
: Vista - Doesn't have it's act together as of yet
: Linux - Doesn't have it's act together as of yet as much I'd love it too.
:
:
: ---
: The notion that the church, the press, and the universities should
: serve the state is essentially a Communist notion ... In a free society
: these institutions must be wholly free -- which is to say that their
: function is to serve as checks upon the state.
: -- Alan Barth

- All institutions are machines, none of which bestow or defend freedom.

 

[cquirke (MVP Windows shell/user)]

I wonder how this lie got started. SP3 for WinXP Home is scheduled for the
second half of '07. Of course MS does expect you to have SP2 installed by
now if not by the end of the year.

You know how those old code viruses sit dormant for months, so that
they pervade every "full system backup" and infect as many existing
code files as possible, then the fuse burns down to hatch a killer
payload? Well, that's the same sort of thing that is happening here.

XP's Product Activation made it difficult to re-use XPon multiple PCs,
and the standard solution was to use a "regimental condom", i.e. a
single stolen volume license key and appropriate file set that
bypassed the Product Activation thing.

All the whole world's warez "Johns" used the same "regimental condom",
creating a nice single point of failure. When Service Packs came out,
they refused to install on this particular product key, but the warez
johns didn't mind; they just stayed without the Service Packs.

Now the trap is sprung, if the original "Service Pack 0" version of XP
is considered "too old" to support or patch, and next this will apply
to SP1. "Of course MS does expect you to have SP2 installed by now if
not by the end of the year." - except these warez johns won't be able
to do that, so what are they going to do?

Pay what they should have paid in the first place, is the expectation,
and it's not an unreasonable one.

Normally there's no differentation between Home and Pro in these
matters, i.e. both would be "retired" at the same time, based on how
long ago the next SP level up was released. Then again, it's only
recently that XP is old enough to be "too old", so we don't really
know whether XP Home will be treated as an NT (because that's what it
is) or a Win9x (because that's the market and price band it is in).

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Don't pay malware vendors - boycott Sony

 

[Alias]

On Sun, 8 Jan 2006 10:31:47 -0600, "Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE"



You know how those old code viruses sit dormant for months, so that
they pervade every "full system backup" and infect as many existing
code files as possible, then the fuse burns down to hatch a killer
payload? Well, that's the same sort of thing that is happening here.

XP's Product Activation made it difficult to re-use XPon multiple PCs,
and the standard solution was to use a "regimental condom", i.e. a
single stolen volume license key and appropriate file set that
bypassed the Product Activation thing.

All the whole world's warez "Johns" used the same "regimental condom",
creating a nice single point of failure. When Service Packs came out,
they refused to install on this particular product key, but the warez
johns didn't mind; they just stayed without the Service Packs.

Now the trap is sprung, if the original "Service Pack 0" version of XP
is considered "too old" to support or patch, and next this will apply
to SP1. "Of course MS does expect you to have SP2 installed by now if
not by the end of the year." - except these warez johns won't be able
to do that, so what are they going to do?

Pay what they should have paid in the first place, is the expectation,
and it's not an unreasonable one.

Normally there's no differentation between Home and Pro in these
matters, i.e. both would be "retired" at the same time, based on how
long ago the next SP level up was released. Then again, it's only
recently that XP is old enough to be "too old", so we don't really
know whether XP Home will be treated as an NT (because that's what it
is) or a Win9x (because that's the market and price band it is in).

Erm, cracked versions of XP accept SP 2 just fine and the subsequent
updates. The only people inconvenienced by the activation and WGA hoops
are paying customers.

 

[cquirke (MVP Windows shell/user)]

On Mon, 09 Jan 2006 14:24:09 +0100, Alias

Erm, cracked versions of XP accept SP 2 just fine and the subsequent
updates. The only people inconvenienced by the activation and WGA hoops
are paying customers.

Depends on the crack. Ye Olde volume key is challenged as described;
more effective approaches that operate on non-volume keys have the
potential to work better, but I haven't seen those around here.

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Don't pay malware vendors - boycott Sony

 

[Guest]

I think I know where he got this some idiot named Fred Lagna has a
newsletter, who a friend of mine showed me today, is saying that Microsoft
will stop supporting Windows XP at the end of this year.

Foxhole

 

[Plato]

What are your plans for the end of support for XP home?

MS-DOS 6.22

Runs D00M just fine. That's all I really need.

 

[Winux P]

Too right Plato, Ultimate DOOM to this day is still my favourate game.

http://www.idsoftware.com/games/doom/doom-ultimate/

If you get the DOOM Collector's Edition Pack (Ultimate DOOM, DOOM II and
Final DOOM with Plutonia and TNT *.wads) it will run on Windows XP. It's
great, DOOM III is a bit scary though, even for an old bloke.

- Winux P

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: > What are your plans for the end of support for XP home?
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