EFS encrypted files are not accessed through network on Win2K server

M

mifisauk

Hi, there!
I have Win2K Adv server with shared folder. There's subfolder at the
lower level encrypted by EFS. I need to access it from client (under
the same account). I don't use CA.

My steps:
1. Export certificate and private key from server (MMC->Certificate-
Current User->Personal->Certificates-> [account name] -> Export) to
shared drive somewhere.
2. Import certificate and private key to client computer (MMC-
Certificate->Current User->Personal->Certificates->Import). It stores
now at the same place as on server.

Now I try to access encrypted files - 'access denied'

What do I do wrong????

Please advice.
 
B

Brian Komar

Hi, there!
I have Win2K Adv server with shared folder. There's subfolder at the
lower level encrypted by EFS. I need to access it from client (under
the same account). I don't use CA.

My steps:
1. Export certificate and private key from server (MMC->Certificate-
Current User->Personal->Certificates-> [account name] -> Export) to
shared drive somewhere.
2. Import certificate and private key to client computer (MMC-
Certificate->Current User->Personal->Certificates->Import). It stores
now at the same place as on server.

Now I try to access encrypted files - 'access denied'

What do I do wrong????

Please advice.

You need to understand how EFS works. When you encrypt files on a server,
the encryption/decryption is a local process *on the server*.
The server must be trusted for delegation and it *impersonates* the user
for these actions. The unspoken part, is that the file is transferred
to/from the client in the clear (no encryption).

When you did step 1, you possibly deleted the private key on export. You
will need to add it back. Also, you need to make sure that you are using
the correct private key (efsinfo /u /r /c will show the correct certificate
thumbprints that you need).
Step 2 was not required, as the certificate is never used on the client

Brian
 
M

mifisauk

Hi Brian,
thanks for fast reply!
Hi, there!
I have Win2K Adv server with shared folder. There's subfolder at the
lower level encrypted by EFS. I need to access it from client (under
the same account). I don't use CA.
My steps:
1. Export certificate and private key from server (MMC->Certificate-
Current User->Personal->Certificates-> [account name] -> Export) to
shared drive somewhere.
2. Import certificate and private key to client computer (MMC-
Certificate->Current User->Personal->Certificates->Import). It stores
now at the same place as on server.
Now I try to access encrypted files - 'access denied'
What do I do wrong????
Please advice.

You need to understand how EFS works.

I still cannot find any documentation about that... Some MS resources
are being like pieces..
When you encrypt files on a server,
the encryption/decryption is a local process *on the server*.
The server must be trusted for delegation and it *impersonates* the user

Sorry, I forgot to mention, it is definitely trusted for delegation. I
double checked...
When you did step 1, you possibly deleted the private key on export. You
will need to add it back. Also, you need to make sure that you are using
the correct private key (efsinfo /u /r /c will show the correct certificate
thumbprints that you need).

Using efsinfo on the server I could see 'users who can decrypt' and
'certificate thumbprint' I need. However, if I do efsinfo remotely
from client in shared folder I could see only 'users who can
decrypt' (no 'certificate thumbprint' ).
Despite it's the same user 'domain\username', I cannot read file from
client (access denied). Reading the same file on the server is no
problem.

Again, what we have:
1. Server is trusted for delegation.
2. Server has share with encrypted subfolder with some file. User
'domain\username' can locally read file with no problem.
3. Client computer connected to that share. Same user 'domain
\username' cannot read the same file (access denied).

Same question:
What do I do wrong????

Brian, I would really use your help here.
Step 2 was not required, as the certificate is never used on the client
Looks like you are right... What's the point to import it though?
Only if we copy encrypted stuff to this computer from somewhere?..
 
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Roger Abell [MVP]

Hi Brian,
thanks for fast reply!
Hi, there!
I have Win2K Adv server with shared folder. There's subfolder at the
lower level encrypted by EFS. I need to access it from client (under
the same account). I don't use CA.
My steps:
1. Export certificate and private key from server (MMC->Certificate-
Current User->Personal->Certificates-> [account name] -> Export) to
shared drive somewhere.
2. Import certificate and private key to client computer (MMC-
Certificate->Current User->Personal->Certificates->Import). It stores
now at the same place as on server.
Now I try to access encrypted files - 'access denied'
What do I do wrong????
Please advice.

You need to understand how EFS works.

I still cannot find any documentation about that... Some MS resources
are being like pieces..
When you encrypt files on a server,
the encryption/decryption is a local process *on the server*.
The server must be trusted for delegation and it *impersonates* the user

Sorry, I forgot to mention, it is definitely trusted for delegation. I
double checked...
When you did step 1, you possibly deleted the private key on export. You
will need to add it back. Also, you need to make sure that you are using
the correct private key (efsinfo /u /r /c will show the correct
certificate
thumbprints that you need).

Using efsinfo on the server I could see 'users who can decrypt' and
'certificate thumbprint' I need. However, if I do efsinfo remotely
from client in shared folder I could see only 'users who can
decrypt' (no 'certificate thumbprint' ).
Despite it's the same user 'domain\username', I cannot read file from
client (access denied). Reading the same file on the server is no
problem.

Again, what we have:
1. Server is trusted for delegation.
2. Server has share with encrypted subfolder with some file. User
'domain\username' can locally read file with no problem.
3. Client computer connected to that share. Same user 'domain
\username' cannot read the same file (access denied).

Same question:
What do I do wrong????

One fairly dumb question, but it will rule out one possibility
which no statement has covered - what is the share level
permissions in effect for the remote access ?
 

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