EFS - copy without encryption

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Guest

I used EFS to protect some sensitive data on my desktop PC. I exported
certificates and all that, but still feel insecure about this encryption
thing. I would like to make an occasional backup of files without encryption
and save them in the secure place in their basic form.

I use a rack hard disk for backup. However, when I backup data, the backup
is also encrypted.

The best I could think of was to format the backup disk with FAT32 and then
use XCOPY /G command.

Is there a way to copy files to the NTFS partition and to remove encryption
while coping, so that the files on the target drive are not encrypted?
 
K

Kerry Brown

dejanr said:
I used EFS to protect some sensitive data on my desktop PC. I exported
certificates and all that, but still feel insecure about this encryption
thing. I would like to make an occasional backup of files without
encryption
and save them in the secure place in their basic form.

I use a rack hard disk for backup. However, when I backup data, the backup
is also encrypted.

The best I could think of was to format the backup disk with FAT32 and
then
use XCOPY /G command.

Is there a way to copy files to the NTFS partition and to remove
encryption
while coping, so that the files on the target drive are not encrypted?

XCOPY then CIPHER. You can write a cmd file to do it.

Kerry
 
G

Guest

Thank you, I had the same idea. The command is something like:

cipher /i /a /d /s:h:\diskd

It works, but not always, sometimes after many decryptions and encryptions
you get a message "this file cannot be encrypted" and xcopy wouldn't copy the
file even with the /G switch.

Even without this bug, it takes time to decrypt long files and it is a real
waste, as there must be a way to do the decryption while copying.

In other words, there must be a way to somehow declare the complete volume
with "do not encrypt anything on this disk". I just don't know how.
 
K

Kerry Brown

dejanr said:
Thank you, I had the same idea. The command is something like:

cipher /i /a /d /s:h:\diskd

It works, but not always, sometimes after many decryptions and encryptions
you get a message "this file cannot be encrypted" and xcopy wouldn't copy
the
file even with the /G switch.

Even without this bug, it takes time to decrypt long files and it is a
real
waste, as there must be a way to do the decryption while copying.

In other words, there must be a way to somehow declare the complete volume
with "do not encrypt anything on this disk". I just don't know how.

I don't know of any way to do it.

Kerry
 
G

Guest

I use a rack hard disk for backup. However, when I backup data, the backup
is also encrypted.

The best I could think of was to format the backup disk with FAT32 and then
use XCOPY /G command.

Is there a way to copy files to the NTFS partition and to remove encryption
while coping, so that the files on the target drive are not encrypted?

Huh, I am usually not THIS stupid :))

The solution is trivial - just do not use any Microsoft copy method (drag
and drop, copy/past, copy, xcopy, backup etc.) to transfer files. When I copy
the encrypted file to other NTFS volume using Total Commander, the copy is
not encrypted :)

Does anybody know some alternative xcopy.exe program with parameters for
copying only files with archive attribute set, resetting this attribute etc?
 
K

Kerry Brown

dejanr said:
Huh, I am usually not THIS stupid :))

The solution is trivial - just do not use any Microsoft copy method (drag
and drop, copy/past, copy, xcopy, backup etc.) to transfer files. When I
copy
the encrypted file to other NTFS volume using Total Commander, the copy is
not encrypted :)

Does anybody know some alternative xcopy.exe program with parameters for
copying only files with archive attribute set, resetting this attribute
etc?

LOL no idea it was that easy.

Kerry
 

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