EC SAYS SOFTWARE IS NOT PATENTABLE


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Dr. Jai Maharaj

EC: Software is not patentable

By Ingrid Marson
ZD Net, UK
May 25, 2006

The European Patent Office will be bound by proposed
legislation that will exclude software from
patentability, according to the EC, in a move that has
startled opponents of software patents

Software patent campaigners were shocked on Wednesday by
an apparent change in stance towards software patents by
the European Commission.

The European Commission said last week that computer
programs will be excluded from patentability in the
upcoming Community Patent legislation, and that the
European Patent Office (EPO) will be bound by this law.

"The EPO would... apply and be bound by a new unitary
Community law with respect to Community patents," said
the EC in a statement. "The draft Community Patent
regulation confirms in its Article 28.1(a) that patents
granted for a subject matter (such as computer programs),
which is excluded from patentability pursuant to Article
52 EPC [European Patent Convention], may be invalidated
in a relevant court proceeding."

This statement appears to contradict what the EC said
last year - that the EPO would continue to grant software
patents
http://news.zdnet.co.uk/business/legal/0,39020651,39210094,00.htm
that make a technical contribution, despite the
European Parliament's decision to reject the software
patent directive.
http://news.zdnet.co.uk/business/legal/0,39020651,39207478,00.htm

The Foundation for a Free Information Infrastructure
(FFII), which has doggedly campaigned against software
patents in Europe, was confused at the EC's change of
tune.

"I'm stunned," said Pieter Hintjens, the president of the
FFII on Wednesday. "Does the Commission now accept that
the EPC rules do actually rule? Or have I misunderstood
something?"

In the past, software patent campaigners have expressed
concerns that the Community Patent legislation would be
used by the EC to legalise software patents.
http://news.zdnet.co.uk/business/legal/0,39020651,39226963,00.htm

The EC's statement was made in response to a question
posed by a Polish MEP, Adam Gierek, in April. Gierek
asked whether the Community Patent legislation would
ratify the EPO's current practice of granting software
patents.

"I am concerned about European Patent Office (EPO)
practices which are undermining the social acceptability
of the patent system, with patents being granted for
solutions that are not patentable under the current law,"
said Gierek. "Does the Commission still stand by the
position set out in... the proposal for a Council
regulation on the Community patent, namely that the case
law which the EPO developed for the European patent will
apply to the Community patent?"

Even if the Community Patent legislation does allow
software patents to be invalidated in court, this is not
enough, according to the FFII's Hintjens. The EPO should
offer an independent appeal process, rather than forcing
companies to pursue a costly legal case at the European
Court of Justice (ECJ), he said.

"The proposed Community Patents will be granted by the
EPO: a non-accountable, non-Community organisation, with
no independent appeal possible. The Commission says this
is not a problem since the ECJ can invalidate the granted
patents in infringement cases," said Hintjens.

"That is however only true if it comes to civil
litigation, which is often too expensive for SMEs,
forcing them to pay for a licence. Therefore software
patents not yet taken to court will impose an enormous
burden on the industry," he added.

Gierek's question and the EC's full answer can be viewed
on the European Parliament's Web site.
http://www.europarl.europa.eu/omk/s...+0+DOC+XML+V0//EN&L=EN&LEVEL=2&NAV=S&LSTDOC=Y

http://news.zdnet.co.uk/business/legal/0,39020651,39270929,00.htm

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Dr. Jai Maharaj said:
The European Patent Office will be bound by proposed
legislation that will exclude software from
patentability, according to the EC, in a move that has
startled opponents of software patents


At least EU is a mentally sane society !!!
Idiotic things like Amazon's "one click checkout", IBM's "caps look
indicator" or Microsoft's "script embedded in XML" can not be used there
to stifle innovation and kill competition.

Into a field like computer software which evolve extremely fast and most if
not all cool ideas are results of free talk on the internet betwen people
all over the world, the patent system is nothing else but a tool allowing
large predatory corporations to destroy smaller businesses by pattenting
any piece of junk then paying lawyers to kill competition in court.

Kudos to EC, Smart Move !!!
 
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Al Klein

At least EU is a mentally sane society !!!
Idiotic things like Amazon's "one click checkout", IBM's "caps look
indicator" or Microsoft's "script embedded in XML" can not be used there
to stifle innovation and kill competition.
Into a field like computer software which evolve extremely fast and most if
not all cool ideas are results of free talk on the internet betwen people
all over the world, the patent system is nothing else but a tool allowing
large predatory corporations to destroy smaller businesses by pattenting
any piece of junk then paying lawyers to kill competition in court.
Kudos to EC, Smart Move !!!

Take a chill pill.

It can't be patented but it can still be copyrighted.
 
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Dr. Jai Maharaj

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EC: Software is not patentable

By Ingrid Marson
ZD Net, UK
May 25, 2006

The European Patent Office will be bound by proposed
legislation that will exclude software from
patentability, according to the EC, in a move that has
startled opponents of software patents

Software patent campaigners were shocked on Wednesday by
an apparent change in stance towards software patents by
the European Commission.

The European Commission said last week that computer
programs will be excluded from patentability in the
upcoming Community Patent legislation, and that the
European Patent Office (EPO) will be bound by this law.

"The EPO would... apply and be bound by a new unitary
Community law with respect to Community patents," said
the EC in a statement. "The draft Community Patent
regulation confirms in its Article 28.1(a) that patents
granted for a subject matter (such as computer programs),
which is excluded from patentability pursuant to Article
52 EPC [European Patent Convention], may be invalidated
in a relevant court proceeding."

This statement appears to contradict what the EC said
last year - that the EPO would continue to grant software
patents
http://news.zdnet.co.uk/business/legal/0,39020651,39210094,00.htm
that make a technical contribution, despite the
European Parliament's decision to reject the software
patent directive.
http://news.zdnet.co.uk/business/legal/0,39020651,39207478,00.htm

The Foundation for a Free Information Infrastructure
(FFII), which has doggedly campaigned against software
patents in Europe, was confused at the EC's change of
tune.

"I'm stunned," said Pieter Hintjens, the president of the
FFII on Wednesday. "Does the Commission now accept that
the EPC rules do actually rule? Or have I misunderstood
something?"

In the past, software patent campaigners have expressed
concerns that the Community Patent legislation would be
used by the EC to legalise software patents.
http://news.zdnet.co.uk/business/legal/0,39020651,39226963,00.htm

The EC's statement was made in response to a question
posed by a Polish MEP, Adam Gierek, in April. Gierek
asked whether the Community Patent legislation would
ratify the EPO's current practice of granting software
patents.

"I am concerned about European Patent Office (EPO)
practices which are undermining the social acceptability
of the patent system, with patents being granted for
solutions that are not patentable under the current law,"
said Gierek. "Does the Commission still stand by the
position set out in... the proposal for a Council
regulation on the Community patent, namely that the case
law which the EPO developed for the European patent will
apply to the Community patent?"

Even if the Community Patent legislation does allow
software patents to be invalidated in court, this is not
enough, according to the FFII's Hintjens. The EPO should
offer an independent appeal process, rather than forcing
companies to pursue a costly legal case at the European
Court of Justice (ECJ), he said.

"The proposed Community Patents will be granted by the
EPO: a non-accountable, non-Community organisation, with
no independent appeal possible. The Commission says this
is not a problem since the ECJ can invalidate the granted
patents in infringement cases," said Hintjens.

"That is however only true if it comes to civil
litigation, which is often too expensive for SMEs,
forcing them to pay for a licence. Therefore software
patents not yet taken to court will impose an enormous
burden on the industry," he added.

Gierek's question and the EC's full answer can be viewed
on the European Parliament's Web site.
http://www.europarl.europa.eu/omk/s...+0+DOC+XML+V0//EN&L=EN&LEVEL=2&NAV=S&LSTDOC=Y

http://news.zdnet.co.uk/business/legal/0,39020651,39270929,00.htm

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Al said:
Take a chill pill.

It can't be patented but it can still be copyrighted.


That is a huge difference. You patent an idea and copyright an finished
work.

I.E. You can patent an faded smile preventing any painter to create any work
where a person either does not either laugh with all mouth either does not
laugh at all. But you can not copyright that.
You can copyright only a particular creation, like Gioconda preventing
others to just copy Da Vinci's creation and pretend is theirs.
 

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