DVD Burners

[John Kelly]

Hello,

Yesterday I was at our local computer store and saw something I had been
told previously (Not in here) would never become available.

Sony have released a Dual Layer DVD burner that also supports both the "="
and "+" formats.....the even bigger surprise was the cost. UK £149 The
drive will hold up to 8.5GB which is perhaps 1.5hours of high quality DVD.
The Sales people could not tell me when the disks themselves would be in
store and they had no idea on their price.....but what marvelous news this
is. The draw back is they are new technology as far as we are concerned and
may not be a good buy for that reason.....

Anyway, if you are on the verge of buying a DVD burner, you might want to
consider one of these.

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[Guest]

Hi John. Are you talking about the Sony DRU 700A? I've been looking around on the web for DVD burners and saw it. The description was a bit confusing to me. Are you saying it will burn all formats DVD-R,DVD-RW,DVD+R, DVD+RW as well as CDR and CDRW?
Thanks.

 

[John Kelly]

Hi thee,

I did not get the model number but your description fits exactly what I
meant.. I assume that it will burn single layer as well as dual layer.

The only thing that worried me was the lack of dual layer disks in the
store and the staff had no idea when they would have any.

I would have trouble believing the price if I had not seen it myself. I
would need to have a good read of the technical specs before buying one, it
does seem rather good though. Just think 8.5GB on one disk !!!

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[Graham Hughes, MVP Digital Media]

Dual layer technology for home burning has been around for some time.
Pioneer demonstrated it early last year using a firmware altered 104 burner,
( this explains why the price is really not different) they are now on
107's. It's suprising that Sony got theirs out to the market first.
Verbatim are rumoured to be the first disc manufacturer to supply dual layer
discs, but they are apparently still with manufacturers being tested.. so
who knows when we will see them. In the mean time the dual layer burners
will work with all the normal discs.
Graham

 

[John Kelly]

Hi there,

Well, it won't be any surprise when I say that I saw them in PC World. I
was talking with him about some Cisco stuff I have and as I looked past him
I saw these burners on display. I asked if what I though I was reading on
the display was correct about Dual Layer. He started to give me the basic
lecture about DV-R or DV+R. I tried to tell him he was not listening to
what I was asking (This did no good at all as far as the advice he had
already given about the real reason I was in there) In the end I got the
wife to go get one of the boxes from the display and asked him to read
it....his first reaction was that I was winding him up, so we turned him
around and pointed him towards the display....even then he said no its just
an advert....he went away, spoke to someone, came back and said "well we
don't do the disks" I left him with it, forgot the advice he had given
about Cisco and phoned Cisco in the USA myself...it turned out that the
advice on that issue was wrong as well.

The above is not as bad as the advice given to me once when I queried the
huge difference in price on two separate DVD burners. One was a +R the
other a -R. The explanation given was that one of them spun the disc
clockwise and the other spun the disk counter clockwise !!!!

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[Graham Hughes, MVP Digital Media]

Don't they

PC world...home of the computer expert in the UK.

Graham

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The explanation given was that one of them spun the disc

 

[Cari \(MS-MVP\)]

And one other thing to remember..... neither Roxio or Nero will yet support
this feature! Roxio's Toast (software for Mac) does. But since there are
no dual layer DVDs yet available, it may be a while before the ordinary PC
user gets a chance to try!

 

[John Kelly]

I doubt that Sony will exactly worry about that. But from your remarks can
we assume you know what software is included, or is this a guess?

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[Cari \(MS-MVP\)]

Pioneer ship with uLead, TDK with Roxio, Sony with Sonic, Memorex with Nero.
So since Sony own Sonic My DVD, that may be the first.

No idea about Lite-On, LG and Emprex. They come under the cheap and
cheerful category IMHO so I don't use them.

Of course these are all full retail DVD drives. OEMs sometimes ship just
bare drives with absolutely no software at all. If they include software,
they are usually the basic versions.

 

[John Kelly]

Again,

Can we assume you know what is in the box with these dual layer burners...a
simple yes or no would have done...your previous reply does not answer the
question. Demonstrating that you know what comes in other packages is of no
help.

It is in any case irrelevant, as the program used will obtain its data from
the DEVCAPS Win32 API. one of those pieces of data will include the amount
of free data.

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[Graham Hughes, MVP Digital Media]

I've not seen which software comes with these drives, but Ulead dvd workshop
version 2 supports dual layer burning.
Graham

 

[Guest]

I am quite sure the Sony DRU700A came with Nero software, which surprised and pleased me

 

[Guest]

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[John Kelly]

Hello Graham,

Thank you for that. I did not bother to make the point before, I doubt
that the Sony Corporation would put hardware on the market that could not
somehow be used to its full potential.

Best Wishes.....John Kelly

 

[John Kelly]

Hi Joy,

Thanks for that. I really do not understand some of these MVP's

Best Wishes.....John Kelly
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[Guest]

Hello, I Bought The Sony DRU-700a A Little Over 2 WEEKS ago, The First Week Was Fine , It Read A 2 Hour Movie in 10 to 14 Min, Wrote it in a Little less or more, depending on the Speed of The Blank Disk , 2x,4x,8x, Etc ( W/ DVD X Copy Platinum) , For the Last Week , About 30min Both Ways , I am Pi*&^***ed.I Called Sony and was on the Phone 2 Hours , To Hear The Tech tell Me It is The Program (X COPY) , Who Cant Support anything They Sold W/ A Ripper in It. Thats Great.
The Tech also mentioned A Firm Ware Upgrade.
Even the Sales Guy at the Store Told to Get the Special "No ? 's Asked" Waranty, Because Of the New Technology!
P.S. There is only one or two companys Making An 8X Blank Now . "Verbatim"
I would wait a while!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Eddie @ (e-mail address removed)

 

[Cari \(MS-MVP\)]

No, Memorex make 8x DVDs.
http://www.memorex.com/products/category_display.php?cid=137 +Rs
http://www.memorex.com/products/category_display.php?cid=41 -Rs

I haven't used them since my burner is a 4x Pioneer A06, but I certainly do
use their 4x exclusively. Never a 'coaster' in sight.

If you are using DVD X Copy to copy a long commercial movie, don't forget
that it must also compress the DVD so that the dual layer format of the
commercial DVD fits on the single layer of your DVD, therefore it will be a
much longer time to burn.

BTW have you seen the specs on the new Philips DVD burner.... 16x and dual
layer!
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5269733/

 

[Guest]

Thanks For The Update, But The When ANARD TECH did the Workup on the DRU-700a , Verbtim Was The Only Available. Ive seen some others , But it has been my Experience That the Individually Packaged Disc's Are The Best...

Thanks Again, Eddie