Drag and drop in web parts...

G

Guest

Hello,

I look at the asp.net 2.0 web parts tutorial on the asp.net web site. I
tried to run it under firefox browser but it did not run.

If I want to use this feature in a commercial product where the user can run
on firefox/mozilla, what would be a good approach.

1. Should I overwrite the javascript code drag-and-drop to make it more
browser independent. If I want to go this route, can anybody provide me a
pointer on how easy it will be to do this and override the event in the web
parts framework.

2. Another option would be to implement another interface for downlevel
browsers and use that screen with firefox. Is this the safe way to go?


Thanks for you time.
 
G

Guest

sorry what I meant in my post above is that only the drag-and-drop (js)
function did not work in firefox. Everything else was just fine!
 
S

Steven Cheng[MSFT]

Hi Jojobar,

Welcome to ASPNET newsgroup.
Regarding on the Webpart drag-drop support problem, it's a current
limitation of both the ASP.NET 2.0 webparts and the ones in WSS/SPS.
Currently only IE browser (high version) will be guarantee to support all
the DHTML behaviors. Also, I haven't found any means to manually replace
the autogenerated dhtml webparts scripts since asp.net use resource
generator to automatically output them.

Thanks,

Steven Cheng
Microsoft Online Support

Get Secure! www.microsoft.com/security
(This posting is provided "AS IS", with no warranties, and confers no
rights.)


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|
| sorry what I meant in my post above is that only the drag-and-drop (js)
| function did not work in firefox. Everything else was just fine!
| --
| -jojobar
|
|
| "jojobar" wrote:
|
| > Hello,
| >
| > I look at the asp.net 2.0 web parts tutorial on the asp.net web site. I
| > tried to run it under firefox browser but it did not run.
| >
| > If I want to use this feature in a commercial product where the user
can run
| > on firefox/mozilla, what would be a good approach.
| >
| > 1. Should I overwrite the javascript code drag-and-drop to make it more
| > browser independent. If I want to go this route, can anybody provide me
a
| > pointer on how easy it will be to do this and override the event in the
web
| > parts framework.
| >
| > 2. Another option would be to implement another interface for downlevel
| > browsers and use that screen with firefox. Is this the safe way to go?
| >
| >
| > Thanks for you time.
| >
| > --
| > -jojobar
|
 
G

Guest

In that case is it possible to switch off the autogenerated drag and drop
completely so that we can have another consistent interface to do this.

Thanks
 
S

Steven Cheng[MSFT]

Hi Jojobar,

Based on my research, currently there hasn't expose any public interfaces
for intercept the script generating of the ASP.NET 2.0 webpart service.
Through viewing the html source in client browser, we can find that the
detailed script code for drag and drop is referenced in a external script
file which is output through the WebResource.axd dynamically, someting
like:

/DemoSite/WebResource.axd?d=Lv9-VlL2g65UIaBJYjoHuw2&amp;t=632618037763491952

So if you do want to try replacing that one with your own script, you can
try overload the page's Render method and find the
<script
src="/DemoSite/WebResource.axd?d=Lv9-VlL2g65UIaBJYjoHuw2&amp;t=6326180377634
91952" type="text/javascript"></script>

and replace it with your own script file or dynamic script stream's URL.
Also, you need to have some research on the script functions in it so as to
implement the proper one targeting the FireFox browser.

Anyway, this is just a hack approach and I think there should have buildin
approach for achieving such fuction in the later version since our ASP.NET
dev guys have begun building the new client script library like the "Atlas".

Thanks,

Steven Cheng
Microsoft Online Support

Get Secure! www.microsoft.com/security
(This posting is provided "AS IS", with no warranties, and confers no
rights.)

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| References: <[email protected]>
<[email protected]>
<[email protected]>
| Subject: RE: Drag and drop in web parts...
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|
| In that case is it possible to switch off the autogenerated drag and drop
| completely so that we can have another consistent interface to do this.
|
| Thanks
| --
| -jojobar
|
|
| "Steven Cheng[MSFT]" wrote:
|
| > Hi Jojobar,
| >
| > Welcome to ASPNET newsgroup.
| > Regarding on the Webpart drag-drop support problem, it's a current
| > limitation of both the ASP.NET 2.0 webparts and the ones in WSS/SPS.
| > Currently only IE browser (high version) will be guarantee to support
all
| > the DHTML behaviors. Also, I haven't found any means to manually
replace
| > the autogenerated dhtml webparts scripts since asp.net use resource
| > generator to automatically output them.
| >
| > Thanks,
| >
| > Steven Cheng
| > Microsoft Online Support
| >
| > Get Secure! www.microsoft.com/security
| > (This posting is provided "AS IS", with no warranties, and confers no
| > rights.)
| >
| >
| > --------------------
| > | Thread-Topic: Drag and drop in web parts...
| > | thread-index: AcXPkOIp/SWg0ob9QLWzTtwMlWSxxQ==
| > | X-WBNR-Posting-Host: 24.30.72.206
| > | From: "=?Utf-8?B?am9qb2Jhcg==?=" <[email protected]>
| > | References: <[email protected]>
| > | Subject: RE: Drag and drop in web parts...
| > | Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 17:56:02 -0700
| > | Lines: 29
| > | Message-ID: <[email protected]>
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| > microsoft.public.dotnet.framework.aspnet:130989
| > | X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.dotnet.framework.aspnet
| > |
| > | sorry what I meant in my post above is that only the drag-and-drop
(js)
| > | function did not work in firefox. Everything else was just fine!
| > | --
| > | -jojobar
| > |
| > |
| > | "jojobar" wrote:
| > |
| > | > Hello,
| > | >
| > | > I look at the asp.net 2.0 web parts tutorial on the asp.net web
site. I
| > | > tried to run it under firefox browser but it did not run.
| > | >
| > | > If I want to use this feature in a commercial product where the
user
| > can run
| > | > on firefox/mozilla, what would be a good approach.
| > | >
| > | > 1. Should I overwrite the javascript code drag-and-drop to make it
more
| > | > browser independent. If I want to go this route, can anybody
provide me
| > a
| > | > pointer on how easy it will be to do this and override the event in
the
| > web
| > | > parts framework.
| > | >
| > | > 2. Another option would be to implement another interface for
downlevel
| > | > browsers and use that screen with firefox. Is this the safe way to
go?
| > | >
| > | >
| > | > Thanks for you time.
| > | >
| > | > --
| > | > -jojobar
| > |
| >
| >
|
 
G

Guest

Thanks for your input. I will look at atlas released code and see if I can
get some universal drag-and-drop code. Cross browser support will be very
welcome in asp.net 2.0.

At least for all the other modern browsers like firefox, safari etc. as they
are not that different in terms of basic capabilities!
--
-jojobar


Steven Cheng said:
Hi Jojobar,

Based on my research, currently there hasn't expose any public interfaces
for intercept the script generating of the ASP.NET 2.0 webpart service.
Through viewing the html source in client browser, we can find that the
detailed script code for drag and drop is referenced in a external script
file which is output through the WebResource.axd dynamically, someting
like:

/DemoSite/WebResource.axd?d=Lv9-VlL2g65UIaBJYjoHuw2&t=632618037763491952

So if you do want to try replacing that one with your own script, you can
try overload the page's Render method and find the
<script
src="/DemoSite/WebResource.axd?d=Lv9-VlL2g65UIaBJYjoHuw2&t=6326180377634
91952" type="text/javascript"></script>

and replace it with your own script file or dynamic script stream's URL.
Also, you need to have some research on the script functions in it so as to
implement the proper one targeting the FireFox browser.

Anyway, this is just a hack approach and I think there should have buildin
approach for achieving such fuction in the later version since our ASP.NET
dev guys have begun building the new client script library like the "Atlas".

Thanks,

Steven Cheng
Microsoft Online Support

Get Secure! www.microsoft.com/security
(This posting is provided "AS IS", with no warranties, and confers no
rights.)

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| References: <[email protected]>
<[email protected]>
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| Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 05:50:04 -0700
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microsoft.public.dotnet.framework.aspnet:131091
| X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.dotnet.framework.aspnet
|
| In that case is it possible to switch off the autogenerated drag and drop
| completely so that we can have another consistent interface to do this.
|
| Thanks
| --
| -jojobar
|
|
| "Steven Cheng[MSFT]" wrote:
|
| > Hi Jojobar,
| >
| > Welcome to ASPNET newsgroup.
| > Regarding on the Webpart drag-drop support problem, it's a current
| > limitation of both the ASP.NET 2.0 webparts and the ones in WSS/SPS.
| > Currently only IE browser (high version) will be guarantee to support
all
| > the DHTML behaviors. Also, I haven't found any means to manually
replace
| > the autogenerated dhtml webparts scripts since asp.net use resource
| > generator to automatically output them.
| >
| > Thanks,
| >
| > Steven Cheng
| > Microsoft Online Support
| >
| > Get Secure! www.microsoft.com/security
| > (This posting is provided "AS IS", with no warranties, and confers no
| > rights.)
| >
| >
| > --------------------
| > | Thread-Topic: Drag and drop in web parts...
| > | thread-index: AcXPkOIp/SWg0ob9QLWzTtwMlWSxxQ==
| > | X-WBNR-Posting-Host: 24.30.72.206
| > | From: "=?Utf-8?B?am9qb2Jhcg==?=" <[email protected]>
| > | References: <[email protected]>
| > | Subject: RE: Drag and drop in web parts...
| > | Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 17:56:02 -0700
| > | Lines: 29
| > | Message-ID: <[email protected]>
| > | MIME-Version: 1.0
| > | Content-Type: text/plain;
| > | charset="Utf-8"
| > | Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
| > | X-Newsreader: Microsoft CDO for Windows 2000
| > | Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message
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| > | Path: TK2MSFTNGXA01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGXA03.phx.gbl
| > | Xref: TK2MSFTNGXA01.phx.gbl
| > microsoft.public.dotnet.framework.aspnet:130989
| > | X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.dotnet.framework.aspnet
| > |
| > | sorry what I meant in my post above is that only the drag-and-drop
(js)
| > | function did not work in firefox. Everything else was just fine!
| > | --
| > | -jojobar
| > |
| > |
| > | "jojobar" wrote:
| > |
| > | > Hello,
| > | >
| > | > I look at the asp.net 2.0 web parts tutorial on the asp.net web
site. I
| > | > tried to run it under firefox browser but it did not run.
| > | >
| > | > If I want to use this feature in a commercial product where the
user
| > can run
| > | > on firefox/mozilla, what would be a good approach.
| > | >
| > | > 1. Should I overwrite the javascript code drag-and-drop to make it
more
| > | > browser independent. If I want to go this route, can anybody
provide me
| > a
| > | > pointer on how easy it will be to do this and override the event in
the
| > web
| > | > parts framework.
| > | >
| > | > 2. Another option would be to implement another interface for
downlevel
| > | > browsers and use that screen with firefox. Is this the safe way to
go?
| > | >
| > | >
| > | > Thanks for you time.
| > | >
| > | > --
| > | > -jojobar
| > |
| >
| >
|
 
S

Steven Cheng[MSFT]

Thanks for your response.

Yes, MS has begun improving the clientside script library and cross browser
is certainly involved in the library's targets.
Hope we'll soon get a richer and stronger version:)

Steven Cheng
Microsoft Online Support

Get Secure! www.microsoft.com/security
(This posting is provided "AS IS", with no warranties, and confers no
rights.)
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| References: <[email protected]>
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microsoft.public.dotnet.framework.aspnet:131387
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|
| Thanks for your input. I will look at atlas released code and see if I
can
| get some universal drag-and-drop code. Cross browser support will be very
| welcome in asp.net 2.0.
|
| At least for all the other modern browsers like firefox, safari etc. as
they
| are not that different in terms of basic capabilities!
| --
| -jojobar
|
|
| "Steven Cheng[MSFT]" wrote:
|
| > Hi Jojobar,
| >
| > Based on my research, currently there hasn't expose any public
interfaces
| > for intercept the script generating of the ASP.NET 2.0 webpart service.
| > Through viewing the html source in client browser, we can find that the
| > detailed script code for drag and drop is referenced in a external
script
| > file which is output through the WebResource.axd dynamically, someting
| > like:
| >
| > /DemoSite/WebResource.axd?d=Lv9-VlL2g65UIaBJYjoHuw2&t=632618037763491952
| >
| > So if you do want to try replacing that one with your own script, you
can
| > try overload the page's Render method and find the
| > <script
| > src="/DemoSite/WebResource.axd?d=Lv9-VlL2g65UIaBJYjoHuw2&t=6326180377634
| > 91952" type="text/javascript"></script>
| >
| > and replace it with your own script file or dynamic script stream's
URL.
| > Also, you need to have some research on the script functions in it so
as to
| > implement the proper one targeting the FireFox browser.
| >
| > Anyway, this is just a hack approach and I think there should have
buildin
| > approach for achieving such fuction in the later version since our
ASP.NET
| > dev guys have begun building the new client script library like the
"Atlas".
| >
| > Thanks,
| >
| > Steven Cheng
| > Microsoft Online Support
| >
| > Get Secure! www.microsoft.com/security
| > (This posting is provided "AS IS", with no warranties, and confers no
| > rights.)
| >
| > --------------------
| > | Thread-Topic: Drag and drop in web parts...
| > | thread-index: AcXP9KGkLUIHJuk4QRWngkbAP9KV2Q==
| > | X-WBNR-Posting-Host: 66.32.191.29
| > | From: "=?Utf-8?B?am9qb2Jhcg==?=" <[email protected]>
| > | References: <[email protected]>
| > <[email protected]>
| > <[email protected]>
| > | Subject: RE: Drag and drop in web parts...
| > | Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 05:50:04 -0700
| > | Lines: 91
| > | Message-ID: <[email protected]>
| > | MIME-Version: 1.0
| > | Content-Type: text/plain;
| > | charset="Utf-8"
| > | Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
| > | X-Newsreader: Microsoft CDO for Windows 2000
| > | Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message
| > | Importance: normal
| > | Priority: normal
| > | X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.0
| > | Newsgroups: microsoft.public.dotnet.framework.aspnet
| > | NNTP-Posting-Host: TK2MSFTNGXA03.phx.gbl 10.40.2.250
| > | Path: TK2MSFTNGXA01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP08.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGXA03.phx.gbl
| > | Xref: TK2MSFTNGXA01.phx.gbl
| > microsoft.public.dotnet.framework.aspnet:131091
| > | X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.dotnet.framework.aspnet
| > |
| > | In that case is it possible to switch off the autogenerated drag and
drop
| > | completely so that we can have another consistent interface to do
this.
| > |
| > | Thanks
| > | --
| > | -jojobar
| > |
| > |
| > | "Steven Cheng[MSFT]" wrote:
| > |
| > | > Hi Jojobar,
| > | >
| > | > Welcome to ASPNET newsgroup.
| > | > Regarding on the Webpart drag-drop support problem, it's a current
| > | > limitation of both the ASP.NET 2.0 webparts and the ones in
WSS/SPS.
| > | > Currently only IE browser (high version) will be guarantee to
support
| > all
| > | > the DHTML behaviors. Also, I haven't found any means to manually
| > replace
| > | > the autogenerated dhtml webparts scripts since asp.net use resource
| > | > generator to automatically output them.
| > | >
| > | > Thanks,
| > | >
| > | > Steven Cheng
| > | > Microsoft Online Support
| > | >
| > | > Get Secure! www.microsoft.com/security
| > | > (This posting is provided "AS IS", with no warranties, and confers
no
| > | > rights.)
| > | >
| > | >
| > | > --------------------
| > | > | Thread-Topic: Drag and drop in web parts...
| > | > | thread-index: AcXPkOIp/SWg0ob9QLWzTtwMlWSxxQ==
| > | > | X-WBNR-Posting-Host: 24.30.72.206
| > | > | From: "=?Utf-8?B?am9qb2Jhcg==?=" <[email protected]>
| > | > | References: <[email protected]>
| > | > | Subject: RE: Drag and drop in web parts...
| > | > | Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 17:56:02 -0700
| > | > | Lines: 29
| > | > | Message-ID: <[email protected]>
| > | > | MIME-Version: 1.0
| > | > | Content-Type: text/plain;
| > | > | charset="Utf-8"
| > | > | Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
| > | > | X-Newsreader: Microsoft CDO for Windows 2000
| > | > | Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message
| > | > | Importance: normal
| > | > | Priority: normal
| > | > | X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.0
| > | > | Newsgroups: microsoft.public.dotnet.framework.aspnet
| > | > | NNTP-Posting-Host: TK2MSFTNGXA03.phx.gbl 10.40.2.250
| > | > | Path: TK2MSFTNGXA01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGXA03.phx.gbl
| > | > | Xref: TK2MSFTNGXA01.phx.gbl
| > | > microsoft.public.dotnet.framework.aspnet:130989
| > | > | X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.dotnet.framework.aspnet
| > | > |
| > | > | sorry what I meant in my post above is that only the
drag-and-drop
| > (js)
| > | > | function did not work in firefox. Everything else was just fine!
| > | > | --
| > | > | -jojobar
| > | > |
| > | > |
| > | > | "jojobar" wrote:
| > | > |
| > | > | > Hello,
| > | > | >
| > | > | > I look at the asp.net 2.0 web parts tutorial on the asp.net web
| > site. I
| > | > | > tried to run it under firefox browser but it did not run.
| > | > | >
| > | > | > If I want to use this feature in a commercial product where the
| > user
| > | > can run
| > | > | > on firefox/mozilla, what would be a good approach.
| > | > | >
| > | > | > 1. Should I overwrite the javascript code drag-and-drop to make
it
| > more
| > | > | > browser independent. If I want to go this route, can anybody
| > provide me
| > | > a
| > | > | > pointer on how easy it will be to do this and override the
event in
| > the
| > | > web
| > | > | > parts framework.
| > | > | >
| > | > | > 2. Another option would be to implement another interface for
| > downlevel
| > | > | > browsers and use that screen with firefox. Is this the safe way
to
| > go?
| > | > | >
| > | > | >
| > | > | > Thanks for you time.
| > | > | >
| > | > | > --
| > | > | > -jojobar
| > | > |
| > | >
| > | >
| > |
| >
| >
|
 

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