downloading windows xp home editions on 2 computers

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we have 2 computers in our home, and have been able to
download windows xp onto one. when i tried downloading
windows xp on the second computer, the activation process
shut me down completly. now, i can not access anything
on the second computer...i get a blank screen all the
time. does anyone know what i should do?
 
we have 2 computers in our home, and have been able to
download windows xp onto one. when i tried downloading
windows xp on the second computer, the activation process
shut me down completly. now, i can not access anything
on the second computer...i get a blank screen all the
time. does anyone know what i should do?

Format, reinstall, and activate it. If it has been less than 120 days
since you have activated the first computer, then you will have to
choose to activate by phone, but DO NOT TELL THEM THAT IT IS INSTALLED
ON MORE THAN ONE COMPUTER!

MS really doesn't want you to install XP on more than one computer, but
an educated consumer can protect their "fair use" rights to their copies
of software.

http://microscum.com/mmpafaq

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Go to store, buy a second copy of xp (as per the windows eula it's one copy
for one machine), put in xp cd and reboot computer to the xp cd, follow on
screen instructions to format and install xp. Note: when you format you will
lose all data on the drive.
 
Hi

If you tried to install XP onto a 2nd PC from one XP CD that is your
problem. One copy of XP per PC. You will either have to purchase a 2nd
copy of XP or buy a 2nd license:

"Additional Licenses for Windows XP Home Edition"
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/home/howtobuy/addlic.asp

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| we have 2 computers in our home, and have been able to
| download windows xp onto one. when i tried downloading
| windows xp on the second computer, the activation process
| shut me down completly. now, i can not access anything
| on the second computer...i get a blank screen all the
| time. does anyone know what i should do?
 
Only if the XP CD is NOT OEM (delivered with one of the two PCs).

Microsoft will only sell RETAIL licenses, to go with RETAIL versions of XP.
 
In (e-mail address removed)
we have 2 computers in our home, and have been able to
download windows xp onto one.


Windows XP is not legally available for downloading. You
presumably mean you *installed* Windows XP onto one.

when i tried downloading
windows xp on the second computer, the activation process
shut me down completly.


The rule is quite clear. It's one copy (or one license) for each
computer. You aren't permitted to install a single copy on both
your computers.

There's nothing new here. This is exactly the same rule that's
been in effect on every version of Windows starting with Windows
3.1. The only thing new with XP is that there's now an
enforcement mechanism.
 
Greetings --

Either buy a second WinXP license, or revert the second PC to its
original OS.

But you already knew this, didn't you? After all, the WinXP box
is clearly marked as being for installation on only a single computer,
and as you'd have had to have read and agreed to the EULA during the
first installation, you know perfectly well that you are not be able
to legitimately use that license on two machines.

Secondly, as it has *always* been with *all* Microsoft operating
systems, it's necessary (to be in compliance with both the EULA and
U.S. copyright law http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/117.html), if
not technically) to purchase one WinXP license for each computer on
which it is installed. (Consult an attorney versed in copyright law
to determine final applicability in your locale.) The only way in
which WinXP licensing differs from that of earlier versions of Windows
is that Microsoft has finally added a copy protection and anti-theft
mechanism, Product Activation, to prevent (or at least make more
difficult) multiple installations using a single license.


Bruce Chambers
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Bruce Chambers wrote:

Secondly, as it has *always* been with *all* Microsoft operating
systems, it's necessary (to be in compliance with both the EULA and
U.S. copyright law http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/117.html), if
not technically) to purchase one WinXP license for each computer on
which it is installed.

Show us the words in Title 17 Chapter 1 Section 117 that prohibits the
installing of software on more than one computer! You won't find any,
because Section 117 is a limitation on the exclusive rights of copyright
owners, not a limitation on rights of an owner of a copy of a copyrighted
computer program!

And this is how the corporate copyright elite and it's sycophants operate,
using lies, deceit, and FUD, but absolutely no legal proof!

So when a MicroSycophant tells you, as an individual, that it is illegal to
install software on more than one computer, don't believe them, but ridicule
them for believing & spreading such nonsense, without a shread proof under
the LAW!

Bruce is the biggest hypocrite in this group! He has been repeatedly shown
his hypocrisy, yet continues to wallow in it. That's what happens to a
person who self-esteem is tied to their belief in non-sentient corporate
entities, instead of tied to their own actions and beliefs.

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Greetings --

If I'm so wrong, how come you always resort to personal attacks,
rather than any relevant rebuttals?

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Before the MVP (M$ Victim Poster) Hermes responded, Bruce Chambers
typed:
Greetings --

If I'm so wrong, how come you always resort to personal attacks,
rather than any relevant rebuttals?

Bruce Chambers

Kurt states what others see as fact that which you and only you interpret as
personal attack(s). Deal with it, Bruce.

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Bruce Chambers said:
Greetings --

If I'm so wrong, how come you always resort to personal attacks,
rather than any relevant rebuttals?

Because you cut out the relevant part of the reply, and only answer the
personal attack, but I fixed your slimy underhanded trick in this reply.

"Show us the words in Title 17 Chapter 1 Section 117 that prohibits the
installing of software on more than one computer!"

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Bruce Chambers, after spending 3 minutes figuring out which end of the pen to
use said:
Greetings --

If I'm so wrong, how come you always resort to personal attacks,
rather than any relevant rebuttals?

Because in your infinite idiocy and hypocrasy, you ignore anything else but
the garbage spewed forth from your own deranged mind. Friggin moron.
 
Bruce said:
Greetings --

If I'm so wrong, how come you always resort to personal attacks,
rather than any relevant rebuttals?

And if you really believed that you are *right*, then you would have shown
"us the words in Title 17 Chapter 1 Section 117 that prohibits the
installing of software on more than one computer," and just ignored what you
describe as "personal attacks."

But you can't come up with the words, so you ignored that part, proving
yourself to be a hypocrite, and a baby, as only babies haven't learned that
"Sticks and Stones may break my bones, but words will never hurt me."

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Bruce Chambers wrote:



Show us the words in Title 17 Chapter 1 Section 117 that prohibits the
installing of software on more than one computer! You won't find any,
because Section 117 is a limitation on the exclusive rights of copyright
owners, not a limitation on rights of an owner of a copy of a copyrighted
computer program!



Title 17, Chapter 1 Section 106:

....the owner of copyright under this title has the exclusive
rights to do and to authorize any of the following:

(1) to reproduce the copyrighted work in copies or phonorecords;


http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/106.html
 
Gregory said:
Title 17, Chapter 1 Section 106:

...the owner of copyright under this title has the exclusive
rights to do and to authorize any of the following:

(1) to reproduce the copyrighted work in copies or phonorecords;


http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/106.html

Sec. 106. - Exclusive rights in copyrighted works

*Subject* *to* *sections* *107* *through* *121* . . . .


Sec. 117. - Limitations on exclusive rights: Computer programs -
http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/117.html

Sec. 107. - Limitations on exclusive rights: Fair use -
http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.html


Seems to me that my Sections 107 & 117 trumps your measly Section 106!

Did you really think you'd get away with "...", or are you trying to compete
with Bruce to see who can sink the lowest into the depths of Hypocrisy?

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Sec. 106. - Exclusive rights in copyrighted works

*Subject* *to* *sections* *107* *through* *121* . . . .


Sec. 117. - Limitations on exclusive rights: Computer programs -
http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/117.html

Sec. 107. - Limitations on exclusive rights: Fair use -
http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.html


Seems to me that my Sections 107 & 117 trumps your measly Section 106!


They would if any of the sections applied.



Did you really think you'd get away with "...", or are you trying to compete
with Bruce to see who can sink the lowest into the depths of Hypocrisy?


Hypocrisy has nothing to do with anything.

I replaced the irrelevant part of the quote with ellipses because
it was irrelevant. None of those exceptions apply. If I'm
mistaken, please quote the relevant exception.
 
Gregory said:
They would if any of the sections applied.

http://microscum.com/mmpafaq/ - For how Section 117 is applicable

For Section 107 - Fair Use:

"Any individual may reproduce a copyrighted work for a "fair use"; the
copyright owner does not possess the exclusive right to such a use." -
http://laws.findlaw.com/us/464/417.html
Hypocrisy has nothing to do with anything.
LOL!


I replaced the irrelevant part of the quote with ellipses because
it was irrelevant.

No, you cut out the relevant part that shows that the copyright owner rights
ARE limited under and by copyright law.
None of those exceptions apply.
Why?

If I'm
mistaken,

And you are.
please quote the relevant exception.

Why didn't you read them? I did give you the links. You had the
opportunity to read the and rebutt them, but instead you'd rather just say
that they are irrelevant, and that they don't apply.

Stop playing games, and explain your opinions! I explained mine over and
over again here, without one of you Copyright fascists making even a dent in
them over the years!

http://www.google.com/groups?as_q=S...as_maxd=10&as_maxm=6&as_maxy=2004&safe=images

http://www.google.com/groups?as_q=&...as_maxd=10&as_maxm=6&as_maxy=2004&safe=images

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"Fair Use"
"Fair use is a copyright principle based on the belief that the
public is entitled to freely use portions of copyrighted materials
for purposes of commentary and criticism. For example, if you wish
to criticize a novelist, you should have the freedom to quote a
portion of the novelist's work without asking permission. Absent this
freedom, copyright owners could stifle any negative comments about
their work."

http://fairuse.stanford.edu/Copyright_and_Fair_Use_Overview/chapter9/index.html)
"Unfortunately, if the copyright owner disagrees with your fair
useinterpretation, the dispute will have to be resolved by courts or
arbitration." -
http://fairuse.stanford.edu/Copyright_and_Fair_Use_Overview/chapter9/index.html

The copyright owner doesn't get to decide what is & is not a "fair use."
"Judges use four factors in resolving fair use disputes, which are
discussed in detail below. It's important to understand that these
factors are only guidelines and the courts are free to adapt them to
particular situations on a case-by-case basis. In other words, a judge
has a great deal of freedom when making a fair use determination and
the outcome in any given case can be hard to predict.

"The four factors judges consider are:

1.. the purpose and character of your use

Private non-commercial individual use.

"In a 1994 case, the Supreme Court emphasized this first factor as being a
primary indicator of fair use." -
http://fairuse.stanford.edu/Copyright_and_Fair_Use_Overview/chapter9/9-b.html

Of course public commercial use is sometimes legally allowable under "fair
use." Private non-commercial use in the home would be the most flexible
form of "fair use."
2.. the nature of the copyrighted work

"In addition, you will have a stronger case of fair use if the material
copied is from a published work than an unpublished work." -
http://fairuse.stanford.edu/Copyright_and_Fair_Use_Overview/chapter9/9-b.html

Not only published, but sold in retail stores as a commercial product.
3.. the amount and substantiality of the portion taken, and

Entire. The Supreme Court in 1984, when considering the taping of entire
movies on a VCR already concluded that individuals can copy an entire
copyrighted work as a "fair use."
4.. the effect of the use upon the potential market. "
(http://fairuse.stanford.edu/Copyright_and_Fair_Use_Overview/chapter9/9-b.ht
ml)

Non-existent since copyright owner was paid for the original copy by the
indivdiual, thereby has already gotten a "fair return" for the creative
labor of the author(s).

"The limited scope of the copyright holder's statutory monopoly, like
the limited copyright duration required by the Constitution, reflects a
balance of competing claims upon the public interest: Creative work is
to be encouraged and rewarded, but private motivation must ultimately
serve the cause of promoting broad public availability of literature,
music, and the other arts. The immediate effect of our copyright law is
to secure a fair return for an 'author's' creative labor. But the
ultimate aim is, by this incentive, to stimulate artistic creativity for
the general public good. 'The sole interest of the United States and
the primary object in conferring the monopoly,' this Court has said,
'lie in the general benefits derived by the public from the labors of
authors' . . . . When technological change has rendered its literal
terms ambiguous, the Copyright Act must be construed in light of this
basic purpose." - http://laws.findlaw.com/us/422/151.html




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Title 17, Chapter 1, Section 117. - Limitations on exclusive rights:
Computer programs

(a) Making of *Additional* Copy or Adaptation by Owner of Copy. -
Notwithstanding the provisions of section 106, it is not an infringement for
the owner of a copy of a computer program to make or authorize the making of
another copy or adaptation of that computer program provided:

(1) that such a *new* copy or adaptation is created as an essential step
in the utilization of the computer program in conjunction with a
machine and that it is used in no other manner, or

(2) that such new copy or adaptation is for archival purposes only and that
all archival copies are destroyed in the event that continued possession of
the computer program should cease to be rightful.

The following is a translation of Section 117 (a) from the legalese using
MS's own definitions:

Title 17 Chapter 1 Section 117. - Limitations on the exclusive rights of
Copyright Owners: Computer programs

(a) Making of Additional Installation by the Owner of a Copy of Software. -
It is not infringement for the owner of a copy of software to make another
installation provided:

(1) that such a *new* installation is made as a necessary step in
making use of the software together with a previously unknown
computer and that it is used in no other manner, or

"(2) that such new copy or adaptation is for archival purposes only and that
all archival copies are destroyed in the event that continued possession of
the computer program should cease to be rightful"

Installation -
http://encarta.msn.com/encnet/features/dictionary/DictionaryResults.aspx?search=adaptation

made -
http://encarta.msn.com/encnet/features/dictionary/DictionaryResults.aspx?search=created

necessary -
http://encarta.msn.com/encnet/features/dictionary/DictionaryResults.aspx?search=essential

making use -
http://encarta.msn.com/encnet/features/dictionary/DictionaryResults.aspx?search=utilize

together with -
http://encarta.msn.com/encnet/features/dictionary/DictionaryResults.aspx?search=conjunction

a previously unknown -
http://encarta.msn.com/encnet/features/dictionary/DictionaryResults.aspx?refid=1861582871

or -
http://encarta.msn.com/encnet/features/dictionary/DictionaryResults.aspx?search=or

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