Domain Joining Problem

V

Vish

Subject: domain joining problem

Hi Guys

1) My PDC server name is XX_CORP_BDC2 and domain name is
DOM_CORP

2) 4 months back I upgraded my PDC server to windows
2000 and created
the
active directory with same server name
and domain name . I unable to change my server name in
dns supported
format because all my users storing and accessing
files like this
format
\\xx_corp_bdc2\file name . So still the server name exist
with non
supported DNS character ( - )

3) In that same server DNS server was created and it is
active
directory
integrated with dynamic updated setting.

4) After that we are facing problem is that we can't add
any member
server
(win2k server) or win2k professional to that domain but
we can add NT
4.0
server or NT4.0 workstation suceessfully. If you going to
add Win2k
server
it will ask the user name and password and after enter
the user name and
password it gives the error that network path not found .
I tried with Netdom utility also i got the same error.

5) I added the win2k member server or professional to
the another
win2k
resource domain DOM-TESTER and with NETDOM MOVE command ,
I moved the
win2k
member server to that upgraded domain DOM_CORP . This way
I can add the
Win2k server or win2k professional to the domain DOM_CORP
but I can't
directly add the win2k server or win2k professinal to
that domain
DOM_CORP
but I can move Win2k member server or professional from
one domain to
DOM_CORP domain.

6) I run the diagnosed tool Dcdiag .exe in the domain
DOM_CORP and I
am
getting the following error

"
DC Diagnosis

Performing initial setup:
Done gathering initial info.

Doing initial non skippeable tests

Testing server: Default-First-Site-Name\XX_CORP_BDC2
Starting test: Connectivity
XX_CORP_BDC2's server GUID DNS name could not be
resolved to an
IP address. Check the DNS server, DHCP, server
name, etc
Although the Guid DNS name

(fdba96f1-0634-4742-881a-
0fed9ef21c36._msdcs.DOM_CORP) couldn't
be

resolved, the server name
(xx_corp_bdc2.DOM_CORP) resolved to
the
IP

address (172.16.0.30) and was pingable. Check
that the IP
address
is

registered correctly with the DNS server.
......................... XX_CORP_BDC2 failed
test Connectivity

Doing primary tests

Testing server: Default-First-Site-Name\XX_CORP_BDC2
Skipping all tests, because server SS_CORP_BDC2 is
not responding to directory service requests

Running enterprise tests on : DOM_CORP
Starting test: Intersite
......................... DOM_CORP passed test
Intersite
Starting test: FsmoCheck
......................... DOM_CORP passed test
FsmoCheck "

I am on conclusion that this problem due to
DNS but I
unable
to find out the solution to resolve this problem.

Second problem I am facing in my domain is I can't
add the global
group or user into the local group .Because of this
problem in share
point
portal server I can't add domain server's global group
or user account
into the portal server .
and while adding i getting the following error

" Processing of object user failed with the following
error . The
RPC
server is unavailable."

I had searched the internet to findout the solution
for above
problem
but my bad luck there was no solution on the internet
for this problem.

I used the below utility from resource kit and
succeed in that
operation but it is difficut to manage because my global
groups are
created
in this way like g_b&m Infouser and this can't be add
through command
prompt , the reason is that the space between g_b&m
infouser and every
time managing groups by command prompt is not possible
cusrmgr.exe -m \\ remotecomputer -alg localgroup -u
globalgroup


Can your side expert give me the solution for following
two problem
1) Adding win2k member server and win2k professional to
my main domain
DOM_CORP
2) Adding global group into the local group

Thanks and regards

Vish
 
A

Ace Fekay [MVP]

In
Vish said:
Subject: domain joining problem

Hi Guys

1) My PDC server name is XX_CORP_BDC2 and domain name is
DOM_CORP

2) 4 months back I upgraded my PDC server to windows
2000 and created
the
active directory with same server name
and domain name . I unable to change my server name in
dns supported
format because all my users storing and accessing
files like this
format
\\xx_corp_bdc2\file name . So still the server name exist
with non
supported DNS character ( - )

3) In that same server DNS server was created and it is
active
directory
integrated with dynamic updated setting.

4) After that we are facing problem is that we can't add
any member
server
(win2k server) or win2k professional to that domain but
we can add NT
4.0
server or NT4.0 workstation suceessfully. If you going to
add Win2k
server
it will ask the user name and password and after enter
the user name and
password it gives the error that network path not found .
I tried with Netdom utility also i got the same error.

5) I added the win2k member server or professional to
the another
win2k
resource domain DOM-TESTER and with NETDOM MOVE command ,
I moved the
win2k
member server to that upgraded domain DOM_CORP . This way
I can add the
Win2k server or win2k professional to the domain DOM_CORP
but I can't
directly add the win2k server or win2k professinal to
that domain
DOM_CORP
but I can move Win2k member server or professional from
one domain to
DOM_CORP domain.

6) I run the diagnosed tool Dcdiag .exe in the domain
DOM_CORP and I
am
getting the following error

"
DC Diagnosis

Performing initial setup:
Done gathering initial info.

Doing initial non skippeable tests

Testing server: Default-First-Site-Name\XX_CORP_BDC2
Starting test: Connectivity
XX_CORP_BDC2's server GUID DNS name could not be
resolved to an
IP address. Check the DNS server, DHCP, server
name, etc
Although the Guid DNS name

(fdba96f1-0634-4742-881a-
0fed9ef21c36._msdcs.DOM_CORP) couldn't
be

resolved, the server name
(xx_corp_bdc2.DOM_CORP) resolved to
the
IP

address (172.16.0.30) and was pingable. Check
that the IP
address
is

registered correctly with the DNS server.
......................... XX_CORP_BDC2 failed
test Connectivity

Doing primary tests

Testing server: Default-First-Site-Name\XX_CORP_BDC2
Skipping all tests, because server SS_CORP_BDC2 is
not responding to directory service requests

Running enterprise tests on : DOM_CORP
Starting test: Intersite
......................... DOM_CORP passed test
Intersite
Starting test: FsmoCheck
......................... DOM_CORP passed test
FsmoCheck "

I am on conclusion that this problem due to
DNS but I
unable
to find out the solution to resolve this problem.

Second problem I am facing in my domain is I can't
add the global
group or user into the local group .Because of this
problem in share
point
portal server I can't add domain server's global group
or user account
into the portal server .
and while adding i getting the following error

" Processing of object user failed with the following
error . The
RPC
server is unavailable."

I had searched the internet to findout the solution
for above
problem
but my bad luck there was no solution on the internet
for this problem.

I used the below utility from resource kit and
succeed in that
operation but it is difficut to manage because my global
groups are
created
in this way like g_b&m Infouser and this can't be add
through command
prompt , the reason is that the space between g_b&m
infouser and every
time managing groups by command prompt is not possible
cusrmgr.exe -m \\ remotecomputer -alg localgroup -u
globalgroup


Can your side expert give me the solution for following
two problem
1) Adding win2k member server and win2k professional to
my main domain
DOM_CORP
2) Adding global group into the local group

Thanks and regards

Vish

The very first thing that you want to check is if the SRV records are
created in DNS. This is what it's looking for when you try to join a machine
to the domain, or whenever it says "can't find domain" means it cannot
either find the SRV record, or when it does, it cannot find the server
listed in the SRV record. That's what AD's all about. Here, read this:

241515 - How to Verify the Creation of SRV Records for a Domain Controller:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;241515

Read this too:
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=291382

Also, make absolutely sure you DO NOT have your ISP's DNS server in any
machine's IP properties. Why? It will be asking your ISP "where's my AD
domain?" and it can't answer that. You need to only use yours.

You can set the option "Name Checking" in your DNS properties to ignore the
underscore, but it *may* cause problems.

Second thing, you're going to have to plan to change all the machines with
underscores to dashes (which are acceptable. The underscore wil cause
mutliple issues. How many users are in AD?

--
Regards,
Ace

Please direct all replies to the newsgroup so all can benefit.

Ace Fekay, MCSE 2000, MCSE+I, MCSA, MCT, MVP
Microsoft Windows MVP - Active Directory
 
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Kevin D. Goodknecht Sr. [MVP]

In Ace Fekay [MVP] <PleaseSubstituteMyFirstName&[email protected]>
posted their concerns,
Then Kevin D4Dad added his reply at the bottom.
In

The very first thing that you want to check is if the SRV records are
created in DNS. This is what it's looking for when you try to join a
machine to the domain, or whenever it says "can't find domain" means
it cannot either find the SRV record, or when it does, it cannot find
the server listed in the SRV record. That's what AD's all about.
Here, read this:

241515 - How to Verify the Creation of SRV Records for a Domain
Controller:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;241515

Read this too:
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=291382

Also, make absolutely sure you DO NOT have your ISP's DNS server in
any machine's IP properties. Why? It will be asking your ISP "where's
my AD domain?" and it can't answer that. You need to only use yours.

You can set the option "Name Checking" in your DNS properties to
ignore the underscore, but it *may* cause problems.

Second thing, you're going to have to plan to change all the machines
with underscores to dashes (which are acceptable. The underscore wil
cause mutliple issues. How many users are in AD?

--
Regards,
Ace

Please direct all replies to the newsgroup so all can benefit.

Ace Fekay, MCSE 2000, MCSE+I, MCSA, MCT, MVP
Microsoft Windows MVP - Active Directory

Just to add since this is an upgrade maybe he still has an NT4 BDC to fix
this for good?
 
A

Ace Fekay [MVP]

In
Just to add since this is an upgrade maybe he still has an NT4 BDC to
fix this for good?

Good point. If he does have one, he could trash the W2k box, promote the NT4
BDC to PDC, change the name without an underscore in the name and domain
name, set the DNS Sufiix on the new PDC to the new DNS domain name, and then
promote that.

--
Regards,
Ace

Please direct all replies to the newsgroup so all can benefit.

Ace Fekay, MCSE 2000, MCSE+I, MCSA, MCT, MVP
Microsoft Windows MVP - Active Directory
 

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