Does Vista 64 bit boot slower ?

[GJB]

Ok..at the risk of sounding stupid, I'm going to ask this anyway. I just
installed Vista Business 64 bit after using Home Premuim 32 bit. I have four
gigs of Ram, and have changed nothing. My system now takes at least twice as
long to boot up than it did before. Is this normal ? or is my system just
wacked.

Thanks.

 

[Rick Rogers]

Hi,

No, that's not right. Boot time should be about the same. I would check
memory timings, and try booting with only 2GB installed to see if there are
any issues there.

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP

Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com

 

[GJB]

memory timings ??? what are they and how do I check them ? What should I do
after I check them....I am BAFFLED about this !

 

[Chad Harris]

Ok..at the risk of sounding stupid, I'm going to ask this anyway. I just
installed Vista Business 64 bit after using Home Premuim 32 bit. I have
four
gigs of Ram, and have changed nothing. My system now takes at least twice
as
long to boot up than it did before. Is this normal ? or is my system
just
wacked.

Thanks.

Hi GJB--

It's definitely as Rick said. But one factor that may influence your boot
time definitely is what you have starting up. I know you might counter that
you have exactly what started up in 32 bit Vista, but make sure you trim
what you don't need. Ed Bott always details that there are 12 places
including reg locations where you can influence what might startup in a
Vista, Win 7, or Win XP boot. But places where you can impact this and
your boot time are:

MSCONFIG start tab
services.msc in run box

See http://www.blackviper.com for a guide to services and stop the ones you
don't need running. Vista and Win 7 startup services that you don't often
have the hdw or software for.

CH

 

[Donald]

Have the 64bit version Vista been working faster after the installation on
your machine? How did you install it on your machine? Is it a upgrade or a
clean reinstallation? If it is always working like that with a clean
reinstallation, you can use msconfig to disable all the optional services
and program from the startup group and see whether it will be quicker.
Otherwise you may like to check the hardware compatibility for Vista 64.
Defragment and some cleaning inside the box may also help.

 

[GJB]

CHAD : Thanks for the info...I went into service.msc and eliminated a couple
of things which seemed to help a bit, but system still drags at boot up. I
don't get a lot of sense out of the blackviper.com link....it doesn't seem to
be very clear to me.

DONALD : I really don't notice any appreciable difference in speed with the
64 bit. It was a clean install. What I really need is a clear list of
optional services. I've checked and my hardware is definately compatible
with 64 bit. Thank you.

 

[Rick Rogers]

Hi,

This is done in the system BIOS, which is accessed when the system initially
starts. You will need to refer to your system manual for specific access
instructions, as it differs by manufacturer. Once in the BIOS, you may need
to either reset the detection settings to automatic, or if already there set
them manually according to timing settings recommended by the ram
manufacturer.

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP

Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com

 

[Donald]

You can try the clean boot routine described on the following page to see
whether any services or program on the startup causing it.
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/929135/en-us

The settings of memory and other hardware are mostly within BIOS, you can
check it by entering CMOS when starting up or you can try to flash your BIOS
with the program supplied by the OEM of the computer if necessary.

 

[Manny Weisbord]

CHAD : Thanks for the info...I went into service.msc and eliminated a couple
of things which seemed to help a bit, but system still drags at boot up. I
don't get a lot of sense out of the blackviper.com link....it doesn't seem to
be very clear to me.

I don't see how it could be MORE clear.

DONALD : I really don't notice any appreciable difference in speed with the
64 bit. It was a clean install. What I really need is a clear list of
optional services.

There is NO clearer list than the one at Black Viper's. If that's too
confusing for you, then your computer needs a new operator.

 

[Mike Hall - MVP]

CHAD : Thanks for the info...I went into service.msc and eliminated a
couple
of things which seemed to help a bit, but system still drags at boot up.
I
don't get a lot of sense out of the blackviper.com link....it doesn't seem
to
be very clear to me.

DONALD : I really don't notice any appreciable difference in speed with
the
64 bit. It was a clean install. What I really need is a clear list of
optional services. I've checked and my hardware is definately compatible
with 64 bit. Thank you.

Which part of the boot up is slow? Power on to the Login screen, or Login to
a usable desktop?

In the first instance, and especially if you have installed SP2, if there is
a USB external drive or scanner connected, that can slow the boot process.
Hardware driver versions may make a difference too, as can faulty RAM..

In the second instance, start up items like anti-virus software can have an
effect. On a clean install, the regular start ups and processes should not
really be affecting the machine. Anything that you added may do though..

 

[GJB]

Well, Mr. Weisbord.....I would respectfully suggest that if you are not going
to add anything constructive to the thread, then please butt out. You sir
have offered no help at all here, and demonstrated the utmost disrepect.

 

[GJB]

Hi Mike :

It is slower going from login to desktop. I realize what I have put in will
slow the process, but again...I have nothing new starting up then I had
before....as a matter of fact, I have even less. I do have macafee loading,
but i had it loading before.

 

[Mike Hall - MVP]

Hi Mike :

It is slower going from login to desktop. I realize what I have put in
will
slow the process, but again...I have nothing new starting up then I had
before....as a matter of fact, I have even less. I do have macafee
loading,
but i had it loading before.

The difference being that McAfee is running in 64bit Vista now. It shouldn't
make any difference really, but it may well do..

Try out Avast 4 Home or Avira free edition and see what happens. If restart
is faster, you have nailed the cause . I wish that my memory was better
because I have tried a few and there is a noticeable difference.

If you are running a McAfee security suite, try disabling the McAfee
firewall, and enable Vista firewall instead. I run ESET NOD32 v.4 security
suite, but have disabled the ESET firewall in favour of the Vista offering..