Does the Alcatel 510(v3) (upgraded) UPnP work with WM v5.x or not?

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Rany

Hi,

I'm trying to configure my network to work with an Alcatel SpeedTouch
510(v3), that was "upgraded" from Home to Pro and then to the
theoretically UPnP enabled 510, in order to gain Windows Messenger's
v5.0.0468 audio conversation's functionality, so far with no success.
Installed WinXP's optional UPnP components, the OS recognized the
modem and lists it under "My Network Places" as Speed Touch 510 ADSL
modem. Modem is set as the DHCP server and PCs, which are connected to
the modem/router through a switch, are getting their IPs and DNS
servers' addresses automatically. Everything's fine but WM's audio
(and probably video) functionality, WM just can't establish an audio
session connection. There's no active firewall. As I can't figure out
what's wrong I'm beginning to suspect something's not perfect with
this device's UPnP support. Can anyone confirm this might be the case
or, OTOH, provide a clue as to what might be going wrong here?


TIA,


Rany.
 
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Rany

I'm trying to configure my network to work with an Alcatel SpeedTouch
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<snipped> see first post in thread.

Apologies for bumping that up it's just that I did read somewhere,
Jonathan, you had an opinion on the matter. As I've been seeking
information regarding this issue for quite some time now, and the only
place I came across, which seemed to conduct in depth discussions on
the matter, was a French site by the name of Forpage.com, namely this
specific discussion :
http://forpage.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=209&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0
and as I do not read French, I was wondering if by any chance you
could provide some hard facts regarding the question - does this
device's UPnP implementation lack the functionality required to
negotiate voice conversations via Windows Messenger (on a WinXP
platform) or not? (yep, admit being guilty of hacking the device ;-)).

TIA and again apologies for this direct approach.

Rany.
 
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Michael Taylor

Hi Rany,

Sorry to jump in on your post.....
I have a ST510 (v3) too. As far as I know, this version of ST does support
UPnP but only for device discovery, so you will only see it as an Internet
Gateway device - it won't perform any port forwardings.
I haven't used this device for over a year now. I was going to dig it out
and give it to my brother. I'm hoping there may be a firmware update that
provides a better UPnP implementation. I've also heard that it's possible to
upgrade the a ST Home to an ST Pro, and I believe the ST 510 v3 is the same
as an ST Home. So if the latest ST Pro firmware supports a full UPnP
implementation, then that would be good news.
I'm posting some questions on the DSLSupport UK forums to see if anyone has
more details.

Oh yes, you could try translating the French at the Forpage forum using
Babelfish. http://babelfish.altavista.com/
Just cut and paste the text.

Mike
 
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Rany

On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 14:35:40 -0000, "Michael Taylor"

Hi Mike and thanks for replying.

Sorry to jump in on your post.....
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That's OK, been waiting for someone to do so ;-)
I have a ST510 (v3) too. As far as I know, this version of ST does support
UPnP but only for device discovery, so you will only see it as an Internet
Gateway device - it won't perform any port forwardings.
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Well, that's exactly what took place, not that I can figure out what's
that good for - so I got Windows to recognize it and present it in "My
Network Places" folder, but not in "Network Conncetions" as an IGD, so
what did I gain? no port forwarding, nothing (if you don't count
tracert which did work).

I haven't used this device for over a year now. I was going to dig it out
and give it to my brother. I'm hoping there may be a firmware update that
provides a better UPnP implementation. I've also heard that it's possible to
upgrade the a ST Home to an ST Pro, and I believe the ST 510 v3 is the same
as an ST Home. So if the latest ST Pro firmware supports a full UPnP
implementation, then that would be good news.
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As a matter of fact, mine IS an "upgraded" ST Home > Pro > 510v3
(hacked is the more common term used in this case ;-)) using a
tampered with 510v3 firmware I got from www.bruring.com (download
section), and as far as I can tell this does not solve Windows
Messenger's voice conversation issues which apparently require a more
adequate UPnP device to operate. Acutally I have already given up on
the subject, downgraded back to ST Pro and switched to using Skype
(www.skype.com) for VOIP which uses different methods for initiating a
voice converstion bhind a NAT device. I'd be happy to learn if a
genuine ST510v3 (not hacked) performs better, as this might suggest
that the problem relies within the hacked firmware (not that there's
much I can do about it if this is the case).

I'm posting some questions on the DSLSupport UK forums to see if anyone has
more details.
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Thanks, and I'll be watching DSLSupport too

Oh yes, you could try translating the French at the Forpage forum using
Babelfish. http://babelfish.altavista.com/
Just cut and paste the text.
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Did that, don't know, there were some quite lenghty discussions on the
subject and using the copy paste method I got all confused, so
switched to feeding bablefish with a thread's URL which resulted in
only half way through translated thread, guess its buffer is too short
:)

Thanks again.


Rany.
 
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Michael Taylor

Hi Rany,

I didn't get any replies at all to my post on DSLSUPPORT. Plenty of people
read it though - no doubt frustrated v3 owners! I don't think I'll tamper
with my v3 before giving it to my brother. He uses a mac and I don't know if
UPnP is an issue with those or whether MSN Messenger for the Mac can take
advantage of a UPnP enabled router. I'm not too hopeful, but if I do hear
anything I'll re-post.

Cheers
Mike
 
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Rany

Hi MIke,
I didn't get any replies at all to my post on DSLSUPPORT.
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Yep! noticed that :-( also stumbled across this discussion:

http://forums.dslsupport.co.uk/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=310

Where Zippy, in a rather authoritative manner, declares the 510v3 does
not fully support UPnP. I don't know the basis for this claim but
adding this to my own and others' experience, together with the lack
of proof of that somebody actually DID get this to work with WM, I
incline to think that is the root of my problem.

I'm not too hopeful, but if I do hear anything I'll re-post.
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Thanks again, I'll be monitoring this thread for a while, just in case
;-)


Rany.
 
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