Do Intel Core 2 Q8200 speed throttles (e.g., underclocks when idled/notheavily used)?

A

Ant

Hello.

When I use my old AMD Athlon 64 desktop systems, I used its AMD
Cool'n'Quiet to slow down speed during slow usages (e.g., Web surfing or
just idled) and speed up when I use my system instensively (e.g.,
gaming) to save electricity, less heat, etc. I upgraded computer
system's hardwares before 2009.

I read that Windows XP Pro. SP3 already speed throttles by default, but
I can't tell like Cool'n'Quiet. With AMD, I could feel much slower
speeds and faster speeds drastically. How can I find out if my Intel
system is properly speed throttling? I see that in XP's system
properties' general tab show Intel Core 2 Quad CPU Q8200 @ 2.33 GHz,
2.81 GHz, etc. as I type this post. I also tried MSI's Dual Core Center
software to read its clock numbers (2264 MHz rarely to 2814 MHz a lot
even if I am just typing an e-mail/a newsgroup post). Is that working
correctly?

http://alpha.zimage.com/~ant/antfarm/about/computers.txt (primary
computer) for the detailed system setup.

Thank you in advance. :)
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S

smlunatick

Hello.

When I use my old AMD Athlon 64 desktop systems, I used its AMD
Cool'n'Quiet to slow down speed during slow usages (e.g., Web surfing or
just idled) and speed up when I use my system instensively (e.g.,
gaming) to save electricity, less heat, etc. I upgraded computer
system's hardwares before 2009.

I read that Windows XP Pro. SP3 already speed throttles by default, but
I can't tell like Cool'n'Quiet. With AMD, I could feel much slower
speeds and faster speeds drastically. How can I find out if my Intel
system is properly speed throttling? I see that in XP's system
properties' general tab show Intel Core 2 Quad CPU Q8200 @ 2.33 GHz,
2.81 GHz, etc. as I type this post. I also tried MSI's Dual Core Center
software to read its clock numbers (2264 MHz rarely to 2814 MHz a lot
even if I am just typing an e-mail/a newsgroup post). Is that working
correctly?

http://alpha.zimage.com/~ant/antfarm/about/computers.txt(primary
computer) for the detailed system setup.

Thank you in advance. :)
--
"When I was five years old, I saw an insect that had been eaten by ants
and of which nothing remained except the shell. Through the holes in its
anatomy one could see the sky. Every time I wish to attain purity I look
at the sky through flesh." --Salvadore Dali
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Not sure on th Core 2 CPUs but the motherboard requires to have a
"step-down" mode and usually the Intel "mobile" grade CPUs do have
same like this.

Also, you can add a cooling feature with CPUCool??
 
A

Ant

Also, you can add a cooling feature with CPUCool??

I don't know. I never heard of CPUCool. Is that a cooler software?
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them out of the way, and then they go out of the way. That's what we are
now -- just ants. Only --" "Yes," "We're eatable ants..." --H.G. Wells'
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A

Ant

Also: Intel® CoreT2 Quad Processor Q8200
http://processorfinder.intel.com/details.aspx?sSpec=SLB5M

Enhanced Intel SpeedStep® Technology How To Document
http://www.intel.com/cd/channel/reseller/asmo-na/eng/203838.htm

I followed the instructions on
http://www.intel.com/cd/channel/reseller/asmo-na/eng/203838.htm ... I
never set to minimal power scheme. I changed its monitor shutoff to
three hours instead and everything to never turn off like HDD.

Now I get @ 2.33GHz and 2.39 GHz in XP's System Properties' general tab.
I think it is working now?
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--Lafcadio Hearn
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A

Ant

Check you BIOS, by default this feature is disabled
on my ASUS motherboard.

Is that EIST for in CMOS/BIOS? I didn't see anything else on speed
throttle except manual and automatic clock speeds. I looked in the
manual (PDF v1.0 English):
http://global.msi.com.tw/index.php?func=downloaddetail&type=manual&maincat_no=1&prod_no=1720
and searched for EIST, and found it. I will have to check when I reboot
later.
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what I mean. It's like one female that runs the whole show." "Yes, the
queen." "Yeah the mamma. She is bad*ss, man. I mean big." "These things
ain't ants estupido." "I know that." --ALIENS movie
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S

smlunatick

I don't know. I never heard of CPUCool. Is that a cooler software?
--
"... Something wrong with the gun," he said. "But what if there is?
They'll get it right again. And even if there's a delay, how can it
alter the end? It's just men and ants. There's the ants builds their
cities, live their lives, have wars, revolutions, until the men want
them out of the way, and then they go out of the way. That's what we are
now -- just ants. Only --" "Yes," "We're eatable ants..." --H.G. Wells'
The War of the Worlds
    /\___/\
   / /\ /\ \         Phil/Ant @http://antfarm.ma.cx(Personal Web Site)
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Sorry, its Cpuidle --> http://www.cpuidle.de/
 
A

Ant


I will check it out if needed.

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A

Ant

I followed the instructions on
http://www.intel.com/cd/channel/reseller/asmo-na/eng/203838.htm ... I
never set to minimal power scheme. I changed its monitor shutoff to
three hours instead and everything to never turn off like HDD.

Now I get @ 2.33GHz and 2.39 GHz in XP's System Properties' general tab.
I think it is working now?

OK, I can feel some sluggish like I did with Athlon 64 so it seems to be
working. :)
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J

JS

Yep, its EIST.

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JS
http://www.pagestart.com


Ant said:
Is that EIST for in CMOS/BIOS? I didn't see anything else on speed
throttle except manual and automatic clock speeds. I looked in the manual
(PDF v1.0 English):
http://global.msi.com.tw/index.php?func=downloaddetail&type=manual&maincat_no=1&prod_no=1720
and searched for EIST, and found it. I will have to check when I reboot
later.
--
"Maybe it's like an ant hive..." "Bees man, bees have hives." "You know
what I mean. It's like one female that runs the whole show." "Yes, the
queen." "Yeah the mamma. She is bad*ss, man. I mean big." "These things
ain't ants estupido." "I know that." --ALIENS movie
/\___/\
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Ant is currently not listening to any songs on his home computer.
 
A

Ant

Yep, its EIST.

I rebooted and checked. Already enabled.

Ran CPU-Z and saw Clocks (Core #0)'s Core Speed: 240x MHz (low usage)
vs. 280x Mhz (high usage on one CPU). Is 240x MHz the lowest it can go?
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Ant


Hmm, not free. Any others that are free?
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torturing forever a puny little creature who could in no way defend
himself? Would it be to the glory of a man to fry ants?" --Charlotte
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Ant

You should be able to confirm this with "CPUID"
also known as CPUZ.

Ran CPU-Z and saw Clocks (Core #0)'s Core Speed: 240x MHz (low usage)
vs. 280x Mhz (high usage on one CPU). Is 240x MHz the lowest it can go?
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to teach children to learn how read, if they can't even fit inside the
building?" "Derek, it's just a--" "I don't want to hear your excuses!
The center has to be at least... three times bigger than this!" "...He's
absolutely right!" --Zoolander movie
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J

JS

I'm almost certain that lower speed can be achieved
but it most likely a function of the motherboard and
bios.

One PC I have will drop it lower and overclock
the CPU when its needed automatically if enabled
in the BIOS.
 

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