digital tv on my system - problem.

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DxPxM

I have a particularly annoying problem the solution to which has so far
eluded me.
I have recently completed the build of my own computer. I decided
whilst doing this, to integrate television into the
machine and purchased a jetway avtune pci DVB-T card (digital
terrestrial television). The problem is something like as
follows:
After the machine, functioning as a television, has been on for about
3/4 of an hour, but not always, i get 'glitches' and
interruptions that last for about a 1/2 hour...sometimes after a
further (indeterminate) period has elapsed, these 'glitches'
and interruptions return again. They are bad enough to seriously
affect tv viewing. This is the only pattern i can discern
that would lead me to believe it is something to do with the computer
and not just signal reception (which is a problem in
itself).
Now, operation with the AGP 8x Geforce Nvidia FX5200 128mb card i
bought to also allow me to play the odd game is problematic
and as set out above. Operation with an AGP 4x Powercolor ATI Radeon
7000 64mb card is also affected though less severely
and is something like as described. Operation with an AGP 4x (i think)
ATI Rage 128 pro 32mb card seems to be largely ok.
The whole system is built around an AMD Sempron 2600+ (core speed
actually 1.8ghz - cpu clk x11) 1.6v FSB 166mhz DDR and the
Gigabyte GA-7vm400am(f) matx mainboard - via km400a (n'bridge) via
vt8237 (s'bridge) with 512mb kingston 200mhz ddr memory.
Harddrive and Dvd r/w drive. In a desktop case with a 200w power
supply.
It's either a hardware or a software problem. Could it be the power
supply? Not being able to cope with the demands being
made of it? The system without tv works fine. Is it something to do
with the voltages that the graphics cards operate on?
As far as i know AGP 4x/8x operate on 1.5v whereas AGP 2x operates on
3.3v. Can it not handle the voltage drop smoothly? Is
it an overheating problem? The dvb-t card itself, located in PCI slot
1 runs fairly hot. The fx5200 128mb card runs very
hot...the 64mb card runs hot, the 32mb card less so. Attempts to cool
down have brought no change...
Into the bios to harmonise the cpu and memory bus speeds at 166mhz DDR
also had no effect. The system may as well run with
the faster memory speed...Relocation of the dvb-t card in another pci
slot also brought no change. Outside the box,
purchase of a new indoor aerial actually worsened reception.
Could it be something to do with the software? Is a buffer overflowing
or a temporary file on the harddrive overfilling
after a certain point? Set the controlling program going and operation
of television is normal. When the problem occurs
there is a high pitch sound and the display temporarily and repeatedly
freezes as though the signal has been blocked. But i
think it's something to do with the machine not just poor signal
reception.

Any ideas? Any help?

DpM

As an update i can confirm that however long the machine has been on
before - when i launch the dvtr controlling software in
order to watch tv - about 45mins later i can expect to get problems.
These problems last a minimum of 15mins and then go. A
further similar period goes by and the problems return...

DpM
 
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Peter

I have a particularly annoying problem the solution to which has so far
eluded me.
I have recently completed the build of my own computer. I decided
whilst doing this, to integrate television into the
machine and purchased a jetway avtune pci DVB-T card (digital
terrestrial television). The problem is something like as
follows:
After the machine, functioning as a television, has been on for about
3/4 of an hour, but not always, i get 'glitches' and
interruptions that last for about a 1/2 hour...sometimes after a
further (indeterminate) period has elapsed, these 'glitches'
and interruptions return again. They are bad enough to seriously
affect tv viewing. This is the only pattern i can discern
that would lead me to believe it is something to do with the computer
and not just signal reception (which is a problem in
itself).

Have you tried disabling any other programs that are running in the
background?
 
D

DxPxM

You mean the processes that windows starts up at startup and that may
not all be necessary....?

Other than these the dvtr software has the machine all to itself...

DpM
 
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Mickey4Paws

DxPxM said:
You mean the processes that windows starts up at startup and that may
not all be necessary....?

Other than these the dvtr software has the machine all to itself...

DpM

IRQ conflict between the tv card and the Nvdia display card? or a
driver conflict, I don't know. Have you tried updating the drivers for
both cards by going to their respective websites and downloading
updated drivers?
 
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MCR

DxPxM said:
I have a particularly annoying problem the solution to which has so far
eluded me.
I have recently completed the build of my own computer. I decided
whilst doing this, to integrate television into the
machine and purchased a jetway avtune pci DVB-T card (digital
terrestrial television). The problem is something like as
follows:
After the machine, functioning as a television, has been on for about
3/4 of an hour, but not always, i get 'glitches' and
interruptions that last for about a 1/2 hour...sometimes after a
further (indeterminate) period has elapsed, these 'glitches'
and interruptions return again. They are bad enough to seriously
affect tv viewing. This is the only pattern i can discern
that would lead me to believe it is something to do with the computer
and not just signal reception (which is a problem in
itself).
Now, operation with the AGP 8x Geforce Nvidia FX5200 128mb card i
bought to also allow me to play the odd game is problematic
and as set out above. Operation with an AGP 4x Powercolor ATI Radeon
7000 64mb card is also affected though less severely
and is something like as described. Operation with an AGP 4x (i think)
ATI Rage 128 pro 32mb card seems to be largely ok.
The whole system is built around an AMD Sempron 2600+ (core speed
actually 1.8ghz - cpu clk x11) 1.6v FSB 166mhz DDR and the
Gigabyte GA-7vm400am(f) matx mainboard - via km400a (n'bridge) via
vt8237 (s'bridge) with 512mb kingston 200mhz ddr memory.
Harddrive and Dvd r/w drive. In a desktop case with a 200w power
supply.
It's either a hardware or a software problem. Could it be the power
supply? Not being able to cope with the demands being
made of it? The system without tv works fine. Is it something to do
with the voltages that the graphics cards operate on?
As far as i know AGP 4x/8x operate on 1.5v whereas AGP 2x operates on
3.3v. Can it not handle the voltage drop smoothly? Is
it an overheating problem? The dvb-t card itself, located in PCI slot
1 runs fairly hot. The fx5200 128mb card runs very
hot...the 64mb card runs hot, the 32mb card less so. Attempts to cool
down have brought no change...
Into the bios to harmonise the cpu and memory bus speeds at 166mhz DDR
also had no effect. The system may as well run with
the faster memory speed...Relocation of the dvb-t card in another pci
slot also brought no change. Outside the box,
purchase of a new indoor aerial actually worsened reception.
Could it be something to do with the software? Is a buffer overflowing
or a temporary file on the harddrive overfilling
after a certain point? Set the controlling program going and operation
of television is normal. When the problem occurs
there is a high pitch sound and the display temporarily and repeatedly
freezes as though the signal has been blocked. But i
think it's something to do with the machine not just poor signal
reception.

Any ideas? Any help?

DpM

As an update i can confirm that however long the machine has been on
before - when i launch the dvtr controlling software in
order to watch tv - about 45mins later i can expect to get problems.
These problems last a minimum of 15mins and then go. A
further similar period goes by and the problems return...

DpM

It sounds like a conflict between your TV card and another device that
is on your system. Try moving the TV card to a different slot, and
disabling the power saving windows can do on certain devices, like
network cards and USB, as its this 'sleeping' that could be affecting
the card.
 
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Peter

You mean the processes that windows starts up at startup and that may
not all be necessary....?

You know. Start>>Run>>Msconfig and look under startup tab.

Was just wondering if any program that is also loading during startup is
performing some kind of housekeeping task after a specified time, which
is affecting your computer's ability to stream the picture smoothly. I
know you said one particular card didn't seem to exhibit this problem,
but it's worth a look anyway. See what you can get away with disabling
and see if the problem disappears. You only have to try it the once.
Other than these the dvtr software has the machine all to itself...
So there's no other programs running at all then?
 
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DxPxM

Allright thanks for your help...still have problem though...i will
solve it one way or another, even if it means buying a new power supply
and/or dvb-t card...

DpM
 
D

DxPxM

DxPxM said:
Allright thanks for your help...still have problem though...i will
solve it one way or another, even if it means buying a new power supply
and/or dvb-t card...

DpM


Software problem...something to do with wdm drivers...i can't install
some of the wdm drivers that came with the fx5200 graphics card.

De-accelerating the hardware (disable all direct draw and direct 3d
accelerations) solves the problem...the tv is not streamed as smoothly
but i can live with it...

Just have to manually accelerate (movies, the occasional game) and
deaccelerate (dtv) which is mildly annoying...

DpM
 
D

DxPxM

*Solved*
I ditched the fx5200 and got a powercolor 9250...

(I was also getting colour loss on video playback after playing this
game i have as well as the tv "glitching problem".)
 

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