digital signature not validating in outlook, but validating everyw

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Guest

All programs such as thunderbird, bouncy castle,
freenet.de/freenet/zugang/rechnung/signatur/index.html, and
http://www.d-trust.net/internet/content/pruefsoftware.html validate an S/MIME
signature, but outlook claims that the message has been tampered with.

Is there a way to have outlook provide more detailed diagnostics why it
thinks the signature is invalid?

I am happy to provide sample eMails with the new Swiss legally binding
qualified signatures...
 
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Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

HAve you used the View Details option?

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After furious head scratching, Ralf Hauser asked:

| All programs such as thunderbird, bouncy castle,
| freenet.de/freenet/zugang/rechnung/signatur/index.html, and
| http://www.d-trust.net/internet/content/pruefsoftware.html validate
| an S/MIME signature, but outlook claims that the message has been
| tampered with.
|
| Is there a way to have outlook provide more detailed diagnostics why
| it thinks the signature is invalid?
|
| I am happy to provide sample eMails with the new Swiss legally binding
| qualified signatures...
 
G

Guest

Yes, I have used it and it says "Error:
The message contents may have been altered.
Signed by (e-mail address removed) using RSA/SHA1 at 6:16:57 PM 6/23/2006."

I am happy to forward the message and an almost identical one that does also
validate in outlook. I would be really great to know whether it is the hash
or whether it is some other reason why the signature fails in outlook.
 
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neo [mvp outlook]

When you say "almost" identical, what is different between the two? (and by
the way, list servers can invalidate a signature because most modify the
from/sender line. this is enough to break a s\mime signature.)
 
G

Guest

When you say "almost" identical, what is different between the two?
- the certificate id is different
- the email the certificate was issued to is different
- the key usage is different (Non-repudiation (40) vs. Digital Signature,
Non-Repudiation (c0))
- the content is not the same
- the signing time is different (the last two are kind of obvious)
(and by
the way, list servers can invalidate a signature because most modify the
from/sender line. this is enough to break a s\mime signature.)
I know, therefore I am asking for an alternate channel to submit the sample
files...
 
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neo [mvp outlook]

You can drop the online from my address and your samples will reach me.
 
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neo [mvp outlook]

Have 1 message with subject of

Refined samples for the outlook signature validation problem
 
G

Guest

cool and did you also see the "Testdaten.zip" attachment? It contains the
validating and the non-validating version that are 99% identical.

Remaining differences:
- different RSA key-pairs
- different modulos

any insights?
 
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