Differences between XP Home & Pro

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On some bulletins advice is given to an enquirer to hit "My Controls" then to
select "Edit Signature". Is this just a feature in Pro or have I overlooked
it in Home?
(I have Windows XP Home.)
 
It is no coincidence that "Stephen East"
On some bulletins advice is given to an enquirer to hit "My Controls" then
to
select "Edit Signature". Is this just a feature in Pro or have I
overlooked
it in Home?
(I have Windows XP Home.)

If you're referring to web based bulletin board, then it will make no
difference. What you see on the World Wide Web will be the same in Pro as in
Home. You may need to change your Internet Explorer settings if you are
having problems with a particular site.
[Right-click the Internet Explorer icon on the desktop > Properties ]
 
The item in question arose from a novice user who queried how an expert
advisor on a computer software bulletin board could always give a summary of
their PC's hardware and software configuration in small typeface as an
example of the sort of complete information anyone asking a query about
drivers clashing with application software/O.S. updates etc. should provide.
I.e. there was little point in asking questions about s/w - h/w compatibity
if you did not say precisely what your own PC/server's configuration was. (So
they needed a method to get their PC to output the information in a format
that they could cut and paste and append to their email.) Experimenting with
IE did not provide me with the answers so I remain uncertain as to whether
this is a Home/Pro issue.

Regards,
--
Stephen East


Jon said:
It is no coincidence that "Stephen East"
On some bulletins advice is given to an enquirer to hit "My Controls" then
to
select "Edit Signature". Is this just a feature in Pro or have I
overlooked
it in Home?
(I have Windows XP Home.)

If you're referring to web based bulletin board, then it will make no
difference. What you see on the World Wide Web will be the same in Pro as in
Home. You may need to change your Internet Explorer settings if you are
having problems with a particular site.
[Right-click the Internet Explorer icon on the desktop > Properties ]
 
It may be a case of needing to first "login" ie as a member at least once
on the particular bulletin board in question, to have the "My Controls"
option appear.

--
Jon


I was more than a little surprised to hear the following from "Stephen East"
The item in question arose from a novice user who queried how an expert
advisor on a computer software bulletin board could always give a summary
of
their PC's hardware and software configuration in small typeface as an
example of the sort of complete information anyone asking a query about
drivers clashing with application software/O.S. updates etc. should
provide.
I.e. there was little point in asking questions about s/w - h/w
compatibity
if you did not say precisely what your own PC/server's configuration was.
(So
they needed a method to get their PC to output the information in a format
that they could cut and paste and append to their email.) Experimenting
with
IE did not provide me with the answers so I remain uncertain as to whether
this is a Home/Pro issue.

Regards,
--
Stephen East


Jon said:
It is no coincidence that "Stephen East"
On some bulletins advice is given to an enquirer to hit "My Controls"
then
to
select "Edit Signature". Is this just a feature in Pro or have I
overlooked
it in Home?
(I have Windows XP Home.)

If you're referring to web based bulletin board, then it will make no
difference. What you see on the World Wide Web will be the same in Pro as
in
Home. You may need to change your Internet Explorer settings if you are
having problems with a particular site.
[Right-click the Internet Explorer icon on the desktop > Properties ]
 
Perhaps, but the message I was reading on the s/w Bulletin board was one of a
series from the same enquirer, there was more than one enquirer who seemed to
want the same information (and had managed to get it, all of the "gurus"
had), and I had an account on the s/w Bulletin board, which I used to login
first and thus expected to see the option "somewhere". (Maybe at this stage I
had not looked for it or anticipated that it may have been added as one of
the options on the menu bar.) The guru who responded to the enquirer seemed
obviously to know where the first item on the menu ("root") could be located
and simply supplied the information where and on which sub-menu to
interrogate the s/w to get it to pump out the information on h/w, s/w,
drivers, version numbers, etc., etc, all in tiny print (an important point,
it was present in perhaps half the size of this font, maybe less). So I
expected to be able to do the same and also expected (obviously wrongly) that
the s/w that would pump out these data would be part of the O.S. I shall look
at the manufacturer's bulletin board again and see if I can find it, but am
not overly optimistic: why should a web application be able to extract
comprehensive data that the O.S. could not? (Yes, I do know that I can get
most of the data via various routes, but that is not the same as "hitting one
key" and getting the whole lot in a non-GUI format.)
--
Stephen East


Jon said:
It may be a case of needing to first "login" ie as a member at least once
on the particular bulletin board in question, to have the "My Controls"
option appear.

--
Jon


I was more than a little surprised to hear the following from "Stephen East"
The item in question arose from a novice user who queried how an expert
advisor on a computer software bulletin board could always give a summary
of
their PC's hardware and software configuration in small typeface as an
example of the sort of complete information anyone asking a query about
drivers clashing with application software/O.S. updates etc. should
provide.
I.e. there was little point in asking questions about s/w - h/w
compatibity
if you did not say precisely what your own PC/server's configuration was.
(So
they needed a method to get their PC to output the information in a format
that they could cut and paste and append to their email.) Experimenting
with
IE did not provide me with the answers so I remain uncertain as to whether
this is a Home/Pro issue.

Regards,
--
Stephen East


Jon said:
It is no coincidence that "Stephen East"
<[email protected]> had written in
...
On some bulletins advice is given to an enquirer to hit "My Controls"
then
to
select "Edit Signature". Is this just a feature in Pro or have I
overlooked
it in Home?
(I have Windows XP Home.)
--
Stephen East

If you're referring to web based bulletin board, then it will make no
difference. What you see on the World Wide Web will be the same in Pro as
in
Home. You may need to change your Internet Explorer settings if you are
having problems with a particular site.
[Right-click the Internet Explorer icon on the desktop > Properties ]
 
The 2 main ways a website could retrieve / display that level of
information from your computer are
(1) Get you to download and run a particular program on your computer.
(2) Install an "activex" component via Internet Explorer.


If the website is making use of "activex" technology to display some of its
menus / retrieve system information from your computer etc, then if your
security settings are too high in Internet Explorer, it will be blocked from
doing so.

This might be resolved by pasting the address of the web site into your
"Trusted Zones"
[In Internet Explorer] Tools > Internet Options > Security > [Click on
Trusted sites] > Sites... > [Uncheck the "Require server verification...."
box > [Paste in the web site address] > ok

Where the 'address' is either the full address appearing in your Internet
Explorer address bar, or of the format
*.nameofsite.com

If the above doesn't work, then your best bet may be to enquire on the
particular bulletin board web site - the site designers are the ones who
will be the most acutely aware of the technologies they are using. There is
often a "Support" or "FAQ" or "Help" link that can help people to use a
site. If not, then there may be a "Contact" link on the site that you could
use to contact them directly for assistance.

Otherwise post the name of the site, and someone may be able to make
further suggestions.


--
Jon


It's certainly worth mentioning that "Stephen East"
Perhaps, but the message I was reading on the s/w Bulletin board was one
of a
series from the same enquirer, there was more than one enquirer who seemed
to
want the same information (and had managed to get it, all of the "gurus"
had), and I had an account on the s/w Bulletin board, which I used to
login
first and thus expected to see the option "somewhere". (Maybe at this
stage I
had not looked for it or anticipated that it may have been added as one of
the options on the menu bar.) The guru who responded to the enquirer
seemed
obviously to know where the first item on the menu ("root") could be
located
and simply supplied the information where and on which sub-menu to
interrogate the s/w to get it to pump out the information on h/w, s/w,
drivers, version numbers, etc., etc, all in tiny print (an important
point,
it was present in perhaps half the size of this font, maybe less). So I
expected to be able to do the same and also expected (obviously wrongly)
that
the s/w that would pump out these data would be part of the O.S. I shall
look
at the manufacturer's bulletin board again and see if I can find it, but
am
not overly optimistic: why should a web application be able to extract
comprehensive data that the O.S. could not? (Yes, I do know that I can get
most of the data via various routes, but that is not the same as "hitting
one
key" and getting the whole lot in a non-GUI format.)
--
Stephen East


Jon said:
It may be a case of needing to first "login" ie as a member at least
once
on the particular bulletin board in question, to have the "My Controls"
option appear.

--
Jon


I was more than a little surprised to hear the following from "Stephen
East"
The item in question arose from a novice user who queried how an expert
advisor on a computer software bulletin board could always give a
summary
of
their PC's hardware and software configuration in small typeface as an
example of the sort of complete information anyone asking a query about
drivers clashing with application software/O.S. updates etc. should
provide.
I.e. there was little point in asking questions about s/w - h/w
compatibity
if you did not say precisely what your own PC/server's configuration
was.
(So
they needed a method to get their PC to output the information in a
format
that they could cut and paste and append to their email.) Experimenting
with
IE did not provide me with the answers so I remain uncertain as to
whether
this is a Home/Pro issue.

Regards,
--
Stephen East


:




It is no coincidence that "Stephen East"
<[email protected]> had written in
...
On some bulletins advice is given to an enquirer to hit "My
Controls"
then
to
select "Edit Signature". Is this just a feature in Pro or have I
overlooked
it in Home?
(I have Windows XP Home.)
--
Stephen East

If you're referring to web based bulletin board, then it will make no
difference. What you see on the World Wide Web will be the same in Pro
as
in
Home. You may need to change your Internet Explorer settings if you
are
having problems with a particular site.
[Right-click the Internet Explorer icon on the desktop > Properties ]
 
What I will do is log back onto the site and ask the relevant persons for the
full instruction(s) on how to achieve this. ActiveX is enabled on my IE, my
security restrictions are "generous" but not careless. None of the threads
relevant to the discussion on the Bulletin board led me to believe that they
were doing anything that either enquirer on guru thought of as in anyway
speciaal. When I get an answer that makes sense, I have tested and found to
work I will post the answer back here. Whatever they did was clearly no big
secret to the persons concerned.
--
Stephen East


Jon said:
The 2 main ways a website could retrieve / display that level of
information from your computer are
(1) Get you to download and run a particular program on your computer.
(2) Install an "activex" component via Internet Explorer.


If the website is making use of "activex" technology to display some of its
menus / retrieve system information from your computer etc, then if your
security settings are too high in Internet Explorer, it will be blocked from
doing so.

This might be resolved by pasting the address of the web site into your
"Trusted Zones"
[In Internet Explorer] Tools > Internet Options > Security > [Click on
Trusted sites] > Sites... > [Uncheck the "Require server verification...."
box > [Paste in the web site address] > ok

Where the 'address' is either the full address appearing in your Internet
Explorer address bar, or of the format
*.nameofsite.com

If the above doesn't work, then your best bet may be to enquire on the
particular bulletin board web site - the site designers are the ones who
will be the most acutely aware of the technologies they are using. There is
often a "Support" or "FAQ" or "Help" link that can help people to use a
site. If not, then there may be a "Contact" link on the site that you could
use to contact them directly for assistance.

Otherwise post the name of the site, and someone may be able to make
further suggestions.


--
Jon


It's certainly worth mentioning that "Stephen East"
Perhaps, but the message I was reading on the s/w Bulletin board was one
of a
series from the same enquirer, there was more than one enquirer who seemed
to
want the same information (and had managed to get it, all of the "gurus"
had), and I had an account on the s/w Bulletin board, which I used to
login
first and thus expected to see the option "somewhere". (Maybe at this
stage I
had not looked for it or anticipated that it may have been added as one of
the options on the menu bar.) The guru who responded to the enquirer
seemed
obviously to know where the first item on the menu ("root") could be
located
and simply supplied the information where and on which sub-menu to
interrogate the s/w to get it to pump out the information on h/w, s/w,
drivers, version numbers, etc., etc, all in tiny print (an important
point,
it was present in perhaps half the size of this font, maybe less). So I
expected to be able to do the same and also expected (obviously wrongly)
that
the s/w that would pump out these data would be part of the O.S. I shall
look
at the manufacturer's bulletin board again and see if I can find it, but
am
not overly optimistic: why should a web application be able to extract
comprehensive data that the O.S. could not? (Yes, I do know that I can get
most of the data via various routes, but that is not the same as "hitting
one
key" and getting the whole lot in a non-GUI format.)
--
Stephen East


Jon said:
It may be a case of needing to first "login" ie as a member at least
once
on the particular bulletin board in question, to have the "My Controls"
option appear.

--
Jon


I was more than a little surprised to hear the following from "Stephen
East"
<[email protected]> in message
The item in question arose from a novice user who queried how an expert
advisor on a computer software bulletin board could always give a
summary
of
their PC's hardware and software configuration in small typeface as an
example of the sort of complete information anyone asking a query about
drivers clashing with application software/O.S. updates etc. should
provide.
I.e. there was little point in asking questions about s/w - h/w
compatibity
if you did not say precisely what your own PC/server's configuration
was.
(So
they needed a method to get their PC to output the information in a
format
that they could cut and paste and append to their email.) Experimenting
with
IE did not provide me with the answers so I remain uncertain as to
whether
this is a Home/Pro issue.

Regards,
--
Stephen East


:




It is no coincidence that "Stephen East"
<[email protected]> had written in
...
On some bulletins advice is given to an enquirer to hit "My
Controls"
then
to
select "Edit Signature". Is this just a feature in Pro or have I
overlooked
it in Home?
(I have Windows XP Home.)
--
Stephen East

If you're referring to web based bulletin board, then it will make no
difference. What you see on the World Wide Web will be the same in Pro
as
in
Home. You may need to change your Internet Explorer settings if you
are
having problems with a particular site.
[Right-click the Internet Explorer icon on the desktop > Properties ]
 
Having gone onto the relevant Bulletin Board/Forum and asked the
straightforward question "How do you extract all that data on your machine's
h/w/ & s/w" the answer that came back was basically they used the O.S.'s s/w
to extract data (i.e. cut & paste it to a file), reformatted it, changing the
font size as necessary and then pasted it into their 'profile' (their
'signature' to be precise) so that it was displayed after every message they
posted. So, this is not and never was a matter of XP Home versus Pro having
different features. Even the relevant forum did not have a tool for doing
this (not really that surprising), but some of the threads posted were
ambiguous on this point, which is what prompted this query.
--
Stephen East


Stephen East said:
What I will do is log back onto the site and ask the relevant persons for the
full instruction(s) on how to achieve this. ActiveX is enabled on my IE, my
security restrictions are "generous" but not careless. None of the threads
relevant to the discussion on the Bulletin board led me to believe that they
were doing anything that either enquirer on guru thought of as in anyway
speciaal. When I get an answer that makes sense, I have tested and found to
work I will post the answer back here. Whatever they did was clearly no big
secret to the persons concerned.
--
Stephen East


Jon said:
The 2 main ways a website could retrieve / display that level of
information from your computer are
(1) Get you to download and run a particular program on your computer.
(2) Install an "activex" component via Internet Explorer.


If the website is making use of "activex" technology to display some of its
menus / retrieve system information from your computer etc, then if your
security settings are too high in Internet Explorer, it will be blocked from
doing so.

This might be resolved by pasting the address of the web site into your
"Trusted Zones"
[In Internet Explorer] Tools > Internet Options > Security > [Click on
Trusted sites] > Sites... > [Uncheck the "Require server verification...."
box > [Paste in the web site address] > ok

Where the 'address' is either the full address appearing in your Internet
Explorer address bar, or of the format
*.nameofsite.com

If the above doesn't work, then your best bet may be to enquire on the
particular bulletin board web site - the site designers are the ones who
will be the most acutely aware of the technologies they are using. There is
often a "Support" or "FAQ" or "Help" link that can help people to use a
site. If not, then there may be a "Contact" link on the site that you could
use to contact them directly for assistance.

Otherwise post the name of the site, and someone may be able to make
further suggestions.


--
Jon


It's certainly worth mentioning that "Stephen East"
Perhaps, but the message I was reading on the s/w Bulletin board was one
of a
series from the same enquirer, there was more than one enquirer who seemed
to
want the same information (and had managed to get it, all of the "gurus"
had), and I had an account on the s/w Bulletin board, which I used to
login
first and thus expected to see the option "somewhere". (Maybe at this
stage I
had not looked for it or anticipated that it may have been added as one of
the options on the menu bar.) The guru who responded to the enquirer
seemed
obviously to know where the first item on the menu ("root") could be
located
and simply supplied the information where and on which sub-menu to
interrogate the s/w to get it to pump out the information on h/w, s/w,
drivers, version numbers, etc., etc, all in tiny print (an important
point,
it was present in perhaps half the size of this font, maybe less). So I
expected to be able to do the same and also expected (obviously wrongly)
that
the s/w that would pump out these data would be part of the O.S. I shall
look
at the manufacturer's bulletin board again and see if I can find it, but
am
not overly optimistic: why should a web application be able to extract
comprehensive data that the O.S. could not? (Yes, I do know that I can get
most of the data via various routes, but that is not the same as "hitting
one
key" and getting the whole lot in a non-GUI format.)
--
Stephen East


:

It may be a case of needing to first "login" ie as a member at least
once
on the particular bulletin board in question, to have the "My Controls"
option appear.

--
Jon


I was more than a little surprised to hear the following from "Stephen
East"
<[email protected]> in message
The item in question arose from a novice user who queried how an expert
advisor on a computer software bulletin board could always give a
summary
of
their PC's hardware and software configuration in small typeface as an
example of the sort of complete information anyone asking a query about
drivers clashing with application software/O.S. updates etc. should
provide.
I.e. there was little point in asking questions about s/w - h/w
compatibity
if you did not say precisely what your own PC/server's configuration
was.
(So
they needed a method to get their PC to output the information in a
format
that they could cut and paste and append to their email.) Experimenting
with
IE did not provide me with the answers so I remain uncertain as to
whether
this is a Home/Pro issue.

Regards,
--
Stephen East


:




It is no coincidence that "Stephen East"
<[email protected]> had written in
...
On some bulletins advice is given to an enquirer to hit "My
Controls"
then
to
select "Edit Signature". Is this just a feature in Pro or have I
overlooked
it in Home?
(I have Windows XP Home.)
--
Stephen East

If you're referring to web based bulletin board, then it will make no
difference. What you see on the World Wide Web will be the same in Pro
as
in
Home. You may need to change your Internet Explorer settings if you
are
having problems with a particular site.
[Right-click the Internet Explorer icon on the desktop > Properties ]
 
Ok, thanks for posting back.

One quick way for getting such information might be

Start > Run > msinfo32 > [Left click in the right pane] > Ctrl-a > Crtl-c >
Open up notepad > Ctrl-V

Perhaps they used similar methods.

--
Jon



It is no coincidence that "Stephen East"
Having gone onto the relevant Bulletin Board/Forum and asked the
straightforward question "How do you extract all that data on your
machine's
h/w/ & s/w" the answer that came back was basically they used the O.S.'s
s/w
to extract data (i.e. cut & paste it to a file), reformatted it, changing
the
font size as necessary and then pasted it into their 'profile' (their
'signature' to be precise) so that it was displayed after every message
they
posted. So, this is not and never was a matter of XP Home versus Pro
having
different features. Even the relevant forum did not have a tool for doing
this (not really that surprising), but some of the threads posted were
ambiguous on this point, which is what prompted this query.
--
Stephen East


Stephen East said:
What I will do is log back onto the site and ask the relevant persons for
the
full instruction(s) on how to achieve this. ActiveX is enabled on my IE,
my
security restrictions are "generous" but not careless. None of the
threads
relevant to the discussion on the Bulletin board led me to believe that
they
were doing anything that either enquirer on guru thought of as in anyway
speciaal. When I get an answer that makes sense, I have tested and found
to
work I will post the answer back here. Whatever they did was clearly no
big
secret to the persons concerned.
--
Stephen East


Jon said:
The 2 main ways a website could retrieve / display that level of
information from your computer are
(1) Get you to download and run a particular program on your computer.
(2) Install an "activex" component via Internet Explorer.


If the website is making use of "activex" technology to display some of
its
menus / retrieve system information from your computer etc, then if
your
security settings are too high in Internet Explorer, it will be blocked
from
doing so.

This might be resolved by pasting the address of the web site into your
"Trusted Zones"
[In Internet Explorer] Tools > Internet Options > Security > [Click on
Trusted sites] > Sites... > [Uncheck the "Require server
verification...."
box > [Paste in the web site address] > ok

Where the 'address' is either the full address appearing in your
Internet
Explorer address bar, or of the format
*.nameofsite.com

If the above doesn't work, then your best bet may be to enquire on the
particular bulletin board web site - the site designers are the ones
who
will be the most acutely aware of the technologies they are using.
There is
often a "Support" or "FAQ" or "Help" link that can help people to use
a
site. If not, then there may be a "Contact" link on the site that you
could
use to contact them directly for assistance.

Otherwise post the name of the site, and someone may be able to make
further suggestions.


--
Jon


It's certainly worth mentioning that "Stephen East"
<[email protected]> had previously written the
following
in message Perhaps, but the message I was reading on the s/w Bulletin board was
one
of a
series from the same enquirer, there was more than one enquirer who
seemed
to
want the same information (and had managed to get it, all of the
"gurus"
had), and I had an account on the s/w Bulletin board, which I used to
login
first and thus expected to see the option "somewhere". (Maybe at this
stage I
had not looked for it or anticipated that it may have been added as
one of
the options on the menu bar.) The guru who responded to the enquirer
seemed
obviously to know where the first item on the menu ("root") could be
located
and simply supplied the information where and on which sub-menu to
interrogate the s/w to get it to pump out the information on h/w,
s/w,
drivers, version numbers, etc., etc, all in tiny print (an important
point,
it was present in perhaps half the size of this font, maybe less). So
I
expected to be able to do the same and also expected (obviously
wrongly)
that
the s/w that would pump out these data would be part of the O.S. I
shall
look
at the manufacturer's bulletin board again and see if I can find it,
but
am
not overly optimistic: why should a web application be able to
extract
comprehensive data that the O.S. could not? (Yes, I do know that I
can get
most of the data via various routes, but that is not the same as
"hitting
one
key" and getting the whole lot in a non-GUI format.)
--
Stephen East


:

It may be a case of needing to first "login" ie as a member at
least
once
on the particular bulletin board in question, to have the "My
Controls"
option appear.

--
Jon


I was more than a little surprised to hear the following from
"Stephen
East"
<[email protected]> in message
The item in question arose from a novice user who queried how an
expert
advisor on a computer software bulletin board could always give a
summary
of
their PC's hardware and software configuration in small typeface
as an
example of the sort of complete information anyone asking a query
about
drivers clashing with application software/O.S. updates etc.
should
provide.
I.e. there was little point in asking questions about s/w - h/w
compatibity
if you did not say precisely what your own PC/server's
configuration
was.
(So
they needed a method to get their PC to output the information in
a
format
that they could cut and paste and append to their email.)
Experimenting
with
IE did not provide me with the answers so I remain uncertain as to
whether
this is a Home/Pro issue.

Regards,
--
Stephen East


:




It is no coincidence that "Stephen East"
<[email protected]> had written in
...
On some bulletins advice is given to an enquirer to hit "My
Controls"
then
to
select "Edit Signature". Is this just a feature in Pro or have
I
overlooked
it in Home?
(I have Windows XP Home.)
--
Stephen East

If you're referring to web based bulletin board, then it will
make no
difference. What you see on the World Wide Web will be the same
in Pro
as
in
Home. You may need to change your Internet Explorer settings if
you
are
having problems with a particular site.
[Right-click the Internet Explorer icon on the desktop >
Properties ]
 

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