Did not detect spyware on my computer

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imax0991

Your beta program did not detect any spyware on my
computer. But when I ran a spyware program called Counter
spy by sunbelt software.com It found some. It found one
called eSpy Now 2.0 A high risk threat. and another
called Password Highjacker. So I dont think your beta
program is ready yet?
 
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Andre Da Costa

A little reference from Bill Sanderson:
Fault 1 is a known issue with the beta builds to date.

Fault 2 - Next time you find a bug on your system which Microsoft
Antispyware has missed, please submit a Tools, suspected spyware report.

Is real-time protection active on your machine? I do wonder how that bug
snuck in with Microsoft Antispyware in place.

Now another one from Plun:
I think this a CWS infection, tricky to remove.

Download CCleaner
http://www.ccleaner.com/

- Send a spywarereport to MS, menu tools

- Reboot in safe mode, press F8 during reboot/restart

- Start CCleaner, this programs cleans all your temporarily
folders
where a lot of junk hides.

- Scan with MSAS twice, choose deepscan.

- Restart in normal mode

- If your fault remains follow this.

http://www.aumha.org/a/quickfix.htm
 
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Andre Da Costa

Huh? Because I referenced what you said?
plun said:
?

Proposal to MS.

- Windows Server 2003
- SQL Server 2005
- Invision power board http://www.invisionpower.com/

Connect this to a real backbone pipe.

Run a modern Forum, with no top posting, quoting
and no broken URLs and messed up instructions.
 
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Andre Da Costa

V

Vanguard

imax0991 said:
Your beta program did not detect any spyware on my
computer. But when I ran a spyware program called Counter
spy by sunbelt software.com It found some. It found one
called eSpy Now 2.0 A high risk threat. and another
called Password Highjacker. So I dont think your beta
program is ready yet?


According to http://www.spywarewarrior.com/rogue_anti-spyware.htm:

Sunbelt CounterSpy
sunbelt-software.com
powered by GIANT (code independently owned by Sunbelt)

So it looks like Giant, at one time, generated some revenue by selling
off a static instance of their code. The buyer, Sunbelt, is not privy
to any further code changes that were substantiated by Giant nor can
Sunbelt reverse-engineer the Giant product to obtain those changes.
That also means Giant couldn't incorporate any specific enhancements
made by Sunbelt (so Microsoft doesn't get them, either). That code
exchange allowed Sunbelt to bootstrap itself into the anti-spyware
software market. I sincerely doubt Microsoft is inclined to work with
Sunbelt. Sunbelt didn't buy Giant, Microsoft did. Sunbelt only paid
for a copy of the code as it existed at the time of transfer.

http://board.iexbeta.com/lofiversion/index.php/t50298.html
http://www.nwfusion.com/news/2004/1216legalquest.html

Notice that Sunbelt never went after Giant from whom Sunbelt purchased a
version of the code. Well, duh, because it was Giant that sold the code
to Sunbelt. I'd have to see more of whatever was the contract between
Giant and Sunbelt to know just exactly what Sunbelt really was entitled
to. From what I've read so far, the real argument is over who can
develop an SDK for the Giant/Sunbelt/Microsoft product. Sunbelt claims
they have exclusive rights to develop an SDK. That won't stop Microsoft
from updating the code or updating the spyware signature but will
eliminate them from providing a 3rd party from getting the SDK from
Microsoft and instead have to go through Sunbelt (but who doesn't own
the Giant version of the code so Sunbelt's SDK would probably be
worthless).

Obviously Microsoft and Sunbelt aren't in bed together to share secrets
regarding features and coding of their different code versions of the
same product. "Because of a legal agreement between Sunbelt Software
Distribution and Giant that preceded the Microsoft acquisition,
Microsoft will provide spyware signature updates to Sunbelt through July
2007"
(http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2004/dec04/1217statement.asp).
Now you know why the *beta* version of Microsoft AntiSpyware ends in
July. Since it is *Microsoft* that provides signature updates to
Sunbelt, it is damn peculiar that MSAS doesn't catch spyware that the
Sunbelt version manages to catch. Sunbelt doesn't analyze the spyware
to generate signatures. They get them from MICROSOFT!

If you are expecting one anti-spyware product to catch all spyware,
malware, or other nasties then you are programming yourself for
disappointment. You will need multiple malware scanners to provide the
widest range of detection. Maybe one day there will be one product that
dominates so severely and so completely that none of the other
anti-spyware/anti-malware products aren't needed, but we aren't there
yet.
 
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Tartan Giant

I normaly rely on ADAWARE and it freqently
detects 'stuff' every day. Like the chap below, I
installed your BETA version of MS Private Spyware and it
picked up absolutely nothing - I ran ADAWRE and it picked
up 11 tracking "cookies".

I am not impressed by the MS product so far!

TG
 
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Vanguard

Tartan Giant said:
I normaly rely on ADAWARE and it freqently
detects 'stuff' every day. Like the chap below, I
installed your BETA version of MS Private Spyware and it
picked up absolutely nothing - I ran ADAWRE and it picked
up 11 tracking "cookies".

Cookies are NOT spyware. If you want a privacy product so your employer
or parents can't see where you have visited then go find one. If you
want to manage what cookies are allowed to get created or will be left
after your browser session, there are better solutions than using
anti-spyware products.
 

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