Device drivers?

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Stubby

How do manufacture-supplied device drivers get installed? For
instance I have a SATA disk and have to use F6 each time I reinstall
Win2KP. But I don't see any file on the disk that appears concerned
with the disk. So where is the driver?
 
J

John John - MVP

Stubby said:
How do manufacture-supplied device drivers get installed? For
instance I have a SATA disk and have to use F6 each time I reinstall
Win2KP. But I don't see any file on the disk that appears concerned
with the disk. So where is the driver?

They would usually be in the Winnt\System32\Drivers folder.

John
 
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Dave Patrick

If you had to F6 then they were on the floppy you used. Probably the files
named oemsetup.inf, txtsetup.oem, and the *.sys



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Microsoft MVP [Windows]
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S

Stubby

They would usually be in the Winnt\System32\Drivers folder.

John

Sure 'nuff. What are all those drivers, anyway? Is that just the
ones for my specific configuaration or will they allow running on most
PCs?

For years I've been trying to get rid of some Error Events in my log
related to ATI hardware being missing. It IS missing and I tried to
uninstall the software, but I get the same 4 events after every
restart. I noticed there are 4 drivers with names like ati****.sys --
can I just delete them?
 
J

John John - MVP

Stubby said:
Sure 'nuff. What are all those drivers, anyway? Is that just the
ones for my specific configuaration or will they allow running on most
PCs?

For years I've been trying to get rid of some Error Events in my log
related to ATI hardware being missing. It IS missing and I tried to
uninstall the software, but I get the same 4 events after every
restart. I noticed there are 4 drivers with names like ati****.sys --
can I just delete them?

Do you have ATI hardware still installed on the machine?

Don't delete any of the drivers in the Winnt\System32\Drivers folder,
that may only exacerbate things. The drivers in the folder may or may
not be in use, it depends on the hardware configuration on your machine.
Unused drivers cause no problems when they are properly disabled or
removed from the registry.

If you are having errors about hardware that is no longer present on
your computer look for and remove phantom devices in the device manager
or look for the driver information in the registry at
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services and remove the key
for the non existing hardware. Careful! Don't remove keys unless you
are certain that they are for truly non existing hardware drivers!

To find phantom or 'ghosted' devices see here:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/241257
Device Manager Does Not Display Devices Not Currently Present in Windows
2000

It would be best if you posted the Event Log errors before deleting
registry keys, the errors could be caused by a variety of things.

John
 
S

Sid Elbow

Stubby said:
For years I've been trying to get rid of some Error Events in my log
related to ATI hardware being missing. It IS missing and I tried to
uninstall the software, but I get the same 4 events after every
restart. I noticed there are 4 drivers with names like ati****.sys --
can I just delete them?

You could run msconfig and see if those drivers show up in the startup
tab (ati drivers usually do as I recall). You could uncheck them there
to make sure your system is stable without them (which would also
probably remove the log error events).

In the event that the system is unstable without those drivers, you
could boot in safe mode and re-check them in msconfig.
 
S

Stubby

You could run msconfig and see if those drivers show up in the startup
tab (ati drivers usually do as I recall). You could uncheck them there
to make sure your system is stable without them (which would also
probably remove the log error events).

In the event that the system is unstable without those drivers, you
could boot in safe mode and re-check them in msconfig.

Good suggestion. However, none of the ATI drivers are listed in the
Startup tab.
 
S

Stubby

Do you have ATI hardware still installed on the machine?

Don't delete any of the drivers in the Winnt\System32\Drivers folder,
that may only exacerbate things.  The drivers in the folder may or may
not be in use, it depends on the hardware configuration on your machine.
  Unused drivers cause no problems when they are properly disabled or
removed from the registry.

If you are having errors about hardware that is no longer present on
your computer look for and remove phantom devices in the device manager
or look for the driver information in the registry at
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services and remove the key
for the non existing hardware.  Careful!  Don't remove keys unless you
are certain that they are for truly non existing hardware drivers!

To find phantom or 'ghosted' devices see here:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/241257
Device Manager Does Not Display Devices Not Currently Present in Windows
2000

It would be best if you posted the Event Log errors before deleting
registry keys, the errors could be caused by a variety of things.

John- Hide quoted text -

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Sorry I forgot to post the actual ERROR event #7000:
The ATI TV Wonder Video Capture service failed to start due to the
following error:
The service cannot be started, either because it is disabled or
because it has no enabled
devices associated with it.

The same error is listed for the Audio Crossbar, Video Crossbar and TV
Tuner in addition.

Long ago I asked ATI for help in removing their stuff and they
responded with a "super uninstaller". It took out several things but
if I search the registry for things beginning with ATI, there are
plenty left.
 
J

John John - MVP

Stubby said:
Sorry I forgot to post the actual ERROR event #7000:
The ATI TV Wonder Video Capture service failed to start due to the
following error:
The service cannot be started, either because it is disabled or
because it has no enabled
devices associated with it.

The same error is listed for the Audio Crossbar, Video Crossbar and TV
Tuner in addition.

Long ago I asked ATI for help in removing their stuff and they
responded with a "super uninstaller". It took out several things but
if I search the registry for things beginning with ATI, there are
plenty left.

To copy an event from the Event Log to your post open the event then
clip on the clipboard icon (below the arrow icons at the top right),
then you can paste the event to your replies.

These EventID 7000 errors are most likely caused by remaining ATI
entries in the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services key.

John
 

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