deleting files dos / NTFS

[Dog]

guys,

if i want to boot to dos on an XP PC and delete some files how do i do it.

if the drive was FAT i could use win98 disk but it is NTFS

I understood there was a utility called NTFSDos but you could only view
files but not write / delete. Is this still the case?

Help appreciated.

thanks,

dog.
http://83.217.168.155/cits/dog.php

 

[Rick \Nutcase\ Rogers]

Hi,

You could use the Pro version of NTFSDOS downloadable here, but it's not
free:
http://www.sysinternals.com/win9x/98utilities.shtml

Basically, in an NTFS file system you should work from the Recovery Console,
but that also has limitations on what you are allowed to do.

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP

Associate Expert - WindowsXP Expert Zone

Windows help - www.rickrogers.org

 

[Pegasus \(MVP\)]

guys,

if i want to boot to dos on an XP PC and delete some files how do i do it.

if the drive was FAT i could use win98 disk but it is NTFS

I understood there was a utility called NTFSDos but you could only view
files but not write / delete. Is this still the case?

Help appreciated.

thanks,

dog.
http://83.217.168.155/cits/dog.php

Instead of using NTFSDOS, why don't you simply boot the machine
with your WinXP CD, then select "Recovery Console"? If will give
you access to your NTFS drive.

 

[Steve N.]

Instead of using NTFSDOS, why don't you simply boot the machine
with your WinXP CD, then select "Recovery Console"? If will give
you access to your NTFS drive.

The Recovery Console is severely limited, you are restricted to the root
folder, the %SystemRoot% folder and the subfolders of the Windows
installation that you are currently logged on to, the Cmdcons folder,
and the removable media drives such as the CD-ROM drive or the DVD-ROM
drive.

For someone wishing to delete files from other locations the Recovery
Console will not work.

Steve

 

[Steve N.]

guys,

if i want to boot to dos on an XP PC and delete some files how do i do it.

if the drive was FAT i could use win98 disk but it is NTFS

I understood there was a utility called NTFSDos but you could only view
files but not write / delete. Is this still the case?

Help appreciated.

thanks,

dog.
http://83.217.168.155/cits/dog.php

As Rick said, the comercial NTFSDos product will do this but not the
free one.

What files do you need to delete and why can you not delete them from
inside Windows?

Steve

 

[Al Dykes]

The Recovery Console is severely limited, you are restricted to the root
folder, the %SystemRoot% folder and the subfolders of the Windows
installation that you are currently logged on to, the Cmdcons folder,
and the removable media drives such as the CD-ROM drive or the DVD-ROM
drive.

For someone wishing to delete files from other locations the Recovery
Console will not work.

Steve

The current PC Magazine mentions this and gives a work-around. (Feb 22
cover date, pg 56-57, and probably on pcmag.com)

Instructions are to:

Start | Run | secpol.msc
expand security settings -> local policies > Securities options

Scroll down to Recovery Console: Allow Floppy copy and access to all drives and folders,
double click and enable.

Of course you have to do this _before_ you have a problem. I just did
this on an XP box and seems to have worked. Of course I won't know
unless this machine screws up.

 

[Steve N.]

The current PC Magazine mentions this and gives a work-around. (Feb 22
cover date, pg 56-57, and probably on pcmag.com)

Instructions are to:

Start | Run | secpol.msc
expand security settings -> local policies > Securities options

Scroll down to Recovery Console: Allow Floppy copy and access to all drives and folders,
double click and enable.

Of course you have to do this _before_ you have a problem. I just did
this on an XP box and seems to have worked. Of course I won't know
unless this machine screws up.

Thanks for the tip Al. I'll try it.

Steve

 

[Ken Blake]

In

if i want to boot to dos on an XP PC and delete some files how
do i
do it.

if the drive was FAT i could use win98 disk but it is NTFS

I understood there was a utility called NTFSDos but you could
only
view files but not write / delete. Is this still the case?

The free version works as you describe. However the paid version
gives you write access.

 

[Al Dykes]

In


The free version works as you describe. However the paid version
gives you write access.

FWIW It's easy to put an NTFS disk into a good machine with the same
OS as a secondary drive to delete files.

 

[DevilsPGD]

In message <#[email protected]> "Steve N."

The Recovery Console is severely limited, you are restricted to the root
folder, the %SystemRoot% folder and the subfolders of the Windows
installation that you are currently logged on to, the Cmdcons folder,
and the removable media drives such as the CD-ROM drive or the DVD-ROM
drive.

For someone wishing to delete files from other locations the Recovery
Console will not work.

While true, anything located elsewhere should usually be deleteable
while the system is running (although you may need to use the recovery
console to massage the system into booting in the first place, depending
on what the problem is)

You can also use a group policy to allow the recovery console full
access to the system.

 

[Stan Brown]

The current PC Magazine mentions this and gives a work-around. (Feb 22
cover date, pg 56-57, and probably on pcmag.com)

Instructions are to:

Start | Run | secpol.msc
expand security settings -> local policies > Securities options

Scroll down to Recovery Console: Allow Floppy copy and access to all drives and folders,
double click and enable.

Of course you have to do this _before_ you have a problem. I just did
this on an XP box and seems to have worked. Of course I won't know
unless this machine screws up.

Great tip, Al. Thanks!

I immediately logged in as Administrator and did this.

 

[Bruce Chambers]

guys,

if i want to boot to dos on an XP PC and delete some files how do i do it.

Not to put too fine a point on it, you can't.

There is no way to reboot a WinXP PC into Real Mode DOS unless
you've set up a dual-boot system. The WinNT family of 32-bit
graphical operating systems, of which WinXP is the latest generation,
has never used, included, or "ridden upon" MS-DOS. The Recovery
Console's CLI (Command Line Interface) is the closest you can come to
the old "DOS mode."

Why not use the Recovery Console's CLI (Command-Line Interface)?

--

Bruce Chambers

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