Deep Blitz: taking on Deep Blue with a PC

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YKhan

Al said:
IBM's way beyond that, now.

That's a given. However, currently commodity hardware in superclusters
are providing most of the supercomputing. I don't think any of the
chess programs available out there are able work over a grid, although
they might work over an SMP. I think the next generation of chess
programs are going to have to work over superclusters, just like
supercomputers have evolved into.

Yousuf Khan
 
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chrisv

Keith said:
(e-mail address removed) says...

Wrong farm. The cows are in Vermont. The tundra farmers heard
corn. ;-)

Where's all that Wisconsin cheese come from then?
 
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Keith Williams

Where's all that Wisconsin cheese come from then?

Del was referring to IBM Rochester, MN when he said "farmers out on
the tundra in flyover land". No cows out there, only corn.
However, there are a few cows in Vermont (higher ratio of cows to
people than Wisconsin).

Besides, there is nothing blue in Wisconsin, other than the map.
;-)
 
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Robert Redelmeier

In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips Keith Williams said:
Besides, there is nothing blue in Wisconsin,
other than the map. ;-)

Not even the sky? That's depressing :)

-- Robert
 
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Del Cecchi

Keith said:
Del was referring to IBM Rochester, MN when he said "farmers out on
the tundra in flyover land". No cows out there, only corn.
However, there are a few cows in Vermont (higher ratio of cows to
people than Wisconsin).

Besides, there is nothing blue in Wisconsin, other than the map.
;-)
Actually we have a fair number of cows around here of both types: eating
and drinking. We also have swine and soybeans. And a couple of
vegetable canning operations, one of which is topped by the famous "ear
of corn" water tower.

Wisconsin? Isn't that where the people drink paint thinner and wear
cheese?
 
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chrisv

Yes, cows there.
Actually we have a fair number of cows around here of both types: eating
and drinking. We also have swine and soybeans. And a couple of
vegetable canning operations, one of which is topped by the famous "ear
of corn" water tower.

Yes, and Rochester only is about 60 miles from Wisconsin. In fact,
I'd be willing to bet that you have some cheeseheads working there!
Wisconsin? Isn't that where the people drink paint thinner and wear
cheese?

Leinenkugel is about my favorite Amercian beer, and it's made in
Wisconsin...
 
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Robert Redelmeier

In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips Keith Williams said:
Sky? What's that?

Something they have in MN & WI even if you have none in VT.

Hint: it ain't vodka. In the day, you look up and see
_blue_ (not gray). At night you look up and it's black with
stars and hopefully no re-entering warheads.

-- Robert
 
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Keith

Yes, cows there.

Well, if you want to get in the way of intra-company elbows...
Yes, and Rochester only is about 60 miles from Wisconsin. In fact, I'd
be willing to bet that you have some cheeseheads working there!

Only those too embarrased by the Vikes this year. I got over it though.
Three of five big ones ain't bad. ;-)
Leinenkugel is about my favorite Amercian beer, and it's made in
Wisconsin...

Shitz, Velveta, and I 94 are the only things that come out of Wisconsin.
As Del pointed out, at least Rochester has a corn-cob water tower[*]. ;-)

[*] First time I was in Rochester my cow-orker asked what *that* was. I
answered without a break - "toilet paper factory".
 
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Keith Williams

Something they have in MN & WI even if you have none in VT.

Hint: it ain't vodka. In the day, you look up and see
_blue_ (not gray). At night you look up and it's black with

Oh, we have plenty of black this time of year. After all, black is
just a darker shade of gray. ;-/

Only when it's -20F (hasn't gotten close this year; all gray)
and hopefully no re-entering warheads.

Who would attack the People's Republic of __ (VT/WI/MN - pick one)?
Texas?
 
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Robert Redelmeier

In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips Keith Williams said:
Only when it's -20F (hasn't gotten close this year; all gray)

A good point -- cold knocks out humidity. Still, Lake Ontario & Erie are
open and steaming.
Who would attack the People's Republic of __ (VT/WI/MN -
pick one)? Texas?

LOL! But the bitterest fights are internecine. Those People's
Republics might be attacked by Russia or China 'cuz they've been
passed in the commie race :)

Besides, aren't you just upwind from the bomber base at Platsburg?

ObOnTopic: I just build an AMD64 and I'm very impressed with
memory latency. About 88ns full-round trip measured by my `c`
pointer chaser. 440BX is 200 at best, and IIRC RDRAM ~300ns.
I don't have many machines for testing.

-- Robert
 
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Keith Williams

A good point -- cold knocks out humidity. Still, Lake Ontario & Erie are
open and steaming.

That's well south of us. We get no lake-effects this far North.
LOL! But the bitterest fights are internecine. Those People's
Republics might be attacked by Russia or China 'cuz they've been
passed in the commie race :)
Ouch!

Besides, aren't you just upwind from the bomber base at Platsburg?

That's been closed for more than a decade and was in Airlift
Command (KC10s) for a long time before that. Hmm, though
_Bombardier_ builds subway cars there now.
ObOnTopic: I just build an AMD64 and I'm very impressed with
memory latency. About 88ns full-round trip measured by my `c`
pointer chaser. 440BX is 200 at best, and IIRC RDRAM ~300ns.
I don't have many machines for testing.

I can volunteer time on an Opteron (and a K6-III ;-). It's almost
two (six) years old and uses registered memory (though PC3200), so
likely slower by a good deal.
 

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