D:Drive to C:Drive

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pm_sam

Hi everyone
I have a Samsung r60 plus with windows vista premium.

Reading the post’s about d:drive which is my backup partition.
I found out that i could reduce the size from 32.53gb to 20gb,in computer
management by right clicking the drive and choose shrink drive.
So i did this and it worked.

My problem is that now i want the reminder 12.53gb to extend to my hard
drive c.
I right clicked the c:drive but did not have the option to extend the drive
only to shrink.
Did a reboot but the same thing.
Can someone please help because now i have an unallocated 12.53gb(wherever
that is lol).
All help greatly appreciated.
Paul
 
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PaulB

Hi Paul,
The problem is that Vista will only extend a partition if the unallocated
space is next to it (to the right as shown in disk management). To do what
you want you will need a third party partition manager.
 
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Steve Ballmer

Em Quinta, 17 de Julho de 2008 18:58, pm_sam escreveu:
Hi everyone
I have a Samsung r60 plus with windows vista premium.

Reading the post’s about d:drive which is my backup partition.
I found out that i could reduce the size from 32.53gb to 20gb,in computer
management by right clicking the drive and choose shrink drive.
So i did this and it worked.

My problem is that now i want the reminder 12.53gb to extend to my hard
drive c.
I right clicked the c:drive but did not have the option to extend the
drive only to shrink.
Did a reboot but the same thing.
Can someone please help because now i have an unallocated
12.53gb(wherever that is lol).
All help greatly appreciated.
Paul

partition magic is your best choice, be carefull using it
 
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pm_sam

hi Paul

thank you for a quick response much appreciated.
i copyed and pasted this.
i suppose that means no.

if i do a system restore will i get back the unallocated space back to
d:drive.lol..

many thanks

paul.

Anyone got any ideas?

Holy deja vu!!!

Anyway...

You can do this with drive management just like any other drive
PROVIDED THAT

Your boot volume is a basic volume. If you tried to be smart
and make it dynamic because dynamic volumes are easier to manage try again :)

The free space you want to expand into is adjacent to the high blocks
of the existing system volume, that is

| system volume | free space | drive d:|

If you have, say,

| system volume | drive d: | free space |

the expand option will be greyed out. You'll need to delete drive D to
proceed.

Thanks again to jawande for making this clear.
 
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Ken Blake, MVP

Hi everyone
I have a Samsung r60 plus with windows vista premium.

Reading the post’s about d:drive which is my backup partition.
I found out that i could reduce the size from 32.53gb to 20gb,in computer
management by right clicking the drive and choose shrink drive.
So i did this and it worked.

My problem is that now i want the reminder 12.53gb to extend to my hard
drive c.


Paul B has already answered your question, but I wanted to add a
different comment.

If that's your backup scheme, you're kidding yourself. It's better
than no backup at all, but only slightly.

I don't recommend backup to a second partition because it leaves you
susceptible to simultaneous loss of the original and backup to many of
the most common dangers: hard drive crashes, severe power glitches,
nearby lightning strikes, virus attacks, even theft of the computer.
Any of these can cause the loss of everything on your drive.

If you're serious about backup, your backups need to be on removable
media, and not kept in the computer. For really secure backup (needed,
for example, if the life of your business depends on your data) you
should have multiple generations of backup, and at least one of those
generations should be stored off-site.

You can read my thoughts on backup here: "How to Back Up Your Computer
Regularly and Reliably" at
http://www.computorcompanion.com/LPMArticle.asp?ID=314
 
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Sinner

Ken Blake said:
Paul B has already answered your question, but I wanted to add a
different comment.

If that's your backup scheme, you're kidding yourself. It's better
than no backup at all, but only slightly.

I think he probably meant that the D: partition is the factory "Restore"
partition, but I could be making a bad assumption.
 
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Ken Blake, MVP

I think he probably meant that the D: partition is the factory "Restore"
partition, but I could be making a bad assumption.



A 32.53GB factory restore partition? I can't imagine that.
 
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Patrick Keenan

pm_sam said:
Hi everyone
I have a Samsung r60 plus with windows vista premium.

Reading the post’s about d:drive which is my backup partition.
I found out that i could reduce the size from 32.53gb to 20gb,in computer
management by right clicking the drive and choose shrink drive.
So i did this and it worked.

My problem is that now i want the reminder 12.53gb to extend to my hard
drive c.
I right clicked the c:drive but did not have the option to extend the
drive
only to shrink.
Did a reboot but the same thing.
Can someone please help because now i have an unallocated
12.53gb(wherever
that is lol).
All help greatly appreciated.
Paul

There are a couple of things here. First, this effect, as noted, is
because of a limitation in the Vista tool.

Second, as noted, you should *not* back up to the same physical disk!

A big reason for backing up is in case of drive failure. When drives fail,
all partitions are equally inacessible.

So, if you are backing up to another partition on the same disk, when it
fails, your backup is gone too. Data recovery from failed drives often
starts around $1000.

Get another physical disk or two, perhaps externals, and use those as backup
destinations. Copy your backups there if needed.

Then delete that backup partition entirely, and you should be able to extend
the C: partition.

It's hard to overemphasise the risk of the backup scheme you are describing.
It's really not a good idea at all.

HTH
-pk
 
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pm_sam

Thank you all for your invaluable opinions.

I have read your backing up data on a pc Ken and this was also much
appreciated.

My D: partition is the factory "Restore" partition but i also did use to
backup there as well *NOT ANYMORE*.

I also have a Vista OS CD as well (what’s the different’s between factory
restore and a Vista CD).

The third party software “Boot-It NG program†(is it free lol) i could use
as my Hard Drive C is very funny 2 days ago I had 17GB, done some download’s
about 1/2GB but when I checked it,it was 11GB LEFT AND ON SOME OCCASIONS it
went up a few GB’s lol, what does the “check volume for errors doâ€.

If my Hard Drive get’s full would I have to get a new internal drive or an
external USB drive.

Also reading in the same forum I found out that I could get another 1GB’s if
I went ahead with a Disk Clean Up on C:Drive.

Am now backing up my data on a USB 2.0GB Flash Drive.

All help and advice much valued.

May I thank you all in advance for your support and help.

Paul.
 
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Patrick Keenan

pm_sam said:
Thank you all for your invaluable opinions.

I have read your backing up data on a pc Ken and this was also much
appreciated.

My D: partition is the factory "Restore" partition but i also did use to
backup there as well *NOT ANYMORE*.

You shouldn't remove the "restore partition" if you do not also have
original install DVDs. If you don't have those, contact the manufactuer
and get them, or make the set if they allow this. The "restore partition"
will not be accessible to you when the drive fails, so you must have disks
of some origin. .

I also have a Vista OS CD as well (what’s the different’s between factory
restore and a Vista CD).

The third party software “Boot-It NG program†(is it free lol) i could use
as my Hard Drive C is very funny 2 days ago I had 17GB, done some download’s
about 1/2GB but when I checked it,it was 11GB LEFT AND ON SOME OCCASIONS
it
went up a few GB’s lol, what does the “check volume for errors doâ€.

If my Hard Drive get’s full would I have to get a new internal drive or an
external USB drive.

Also reading in the same forum I found out that I could get another 1GB’s
if
I went ahead with a Disk Clean Up on C:Drive.

Am now backing up my data on a USB 2.0GB Flash Drive.

While this is convenient, it's dangerous. Flash drives, the USB thumb
drives, have a very annoying tendency to suddenly and permanently fail. I
have a pile of such devices in a drawer, they are otherwise trash.

Because of this tendency to fail without possibility of recovery, these
drives should NOT be used for anything other than temporary and
supplementary storage or transfer. They are NOT a reliable backup media.

HTH
-pk
 

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