Custom Menu Bars

[Guest]

I use a default custom menu bar and over-ride it with a second custom menu
bar for reports. I distribute my appliaction via an MDE file. Some users see
the one bar or the other, as designed, but other users always see two menu
bars on every screen, thus some data is lost at the bottom of the screen.

Can you tell me how to correct this and why the MDE file behaves differently
on different computers.

Thanks

 

[Albert D. Kallal]

It is possible that the target machine has some custom menus, and those
menus are set to NOT allow customizing, and NOT allow showing/hiding, and
NOT allow moving. I believe in this case....you can't eliminates the menus
since there settings are such to not low customization, and not allow
showing/hiding.

However, it is not clear how you actually hide the main menu(s), and show
your own.

I had the most success when you simply specify a main application menu (in
tools->startup).

You then simply specify the menu bar for the reports (in the other tab).

Are you doing the above?

but other users always see two menu
bars on every screen, thus some data is lost at the bottom of the screen.

You are talking about a form...right?

I will try and test to see if the showing/hiding feature of a menu bar can
be set via code (if it can't, then you likey are stuck with this problem).

 

[Guest]

Thanks, Albert. Yes, as you state, I am specify a main application menu (in
tools-startup) as the default. It applies to forms, and then for reports I
specify another menu in the Other Prroperties tab. This works fine on my
machine and on many others, where only one menu bar appears on forms and the
other for reports in report view.

But with some users, both menu bars appear on all forms and on all report
views.

The data I am concerned about no showing is on forms, yes.

The users are relatively close by but I had assumed that when I create an
MDE version of the application, that that version would inherit all settings.
I am not sure why other settings should be inherited when the application is
run on another computer. I am also unsure of what settings to change on an
offending computer or how to change them, since I cannot open the MDE file to
change anything, and if I start ACCESS on the offending machine, I can't
change a setting unless I have an application open.

I appreciate your efforts to help. Thanks very much.

Bob Robinson

 

[Albert D. Kallal]

Thanks, Albert. Yes, as you state, I am specify a main application menu
(in
tools-startup) as the default. It applies to forms, and then for reports I
specify another menu in the Other Prroperties tab. This works fine on my
machine and on many others, where only one menu bar appears on forms and
the
other for reports in report view.

I also have your exact problem, and on MOST (many) computers, there is a not
a problem.

However, on a number of computers....an extra bar appears.

I just tested the "theory" about turning off allow customizing..and
un-checking those options. This does not result in any extra bars showing on
my computer.

So, there is a mystery here........

 

[Rick Brandt]

I also have your exact problem, and on MOST (many) computers, there
is a not a problem.

However, on a number of computers....an extra bar appears.

I just tested the "theory" about turning off allow customizing..and
un-checking those options. This does not result in any extra bars
showing on my computer.

So, there is a mystery here........

The closest I have seen to this is not seeing a report's toolbar appear when
previewed untio the zoom is changed which seems to be a screen refresh problem.
I've never seen "extra" toolbars, but if the extra is one that was being
displayed prior to the report being opened it wouldn;t suprise me if it was the
same issue.

Does the extra bar stay there if you change the zoom level or go to a different
page?

 

[Albert D. Kallal]

Nope..not related to reports.

Does the extra bar stay there if you change the zoom level or go to a
different page?

As far as I know..no. Simply put, the person runs my application, and an
extra (existing) menu bar stays.

You can download a sample of an application with a custom menu bar (grab the
3rd one here)

http://www.members.shaw.ca/AlbertKallal/msaccess/DownLoad.htm

(and, the above sample does have a custom bar for the report, and does hide
all of the others when the report is launched (and, this again takes zero
code to do this!!)...).

The above hides all of the ms-access interface, and does so without any
special code. This approach works on virtually ALL of my clients machines.
However, a few people (and in this case the original poster of this thread)
is experiencing that on some machines, there are stray, or some menu bars
that don't hide (they remain visible). I have been un-able to duplicate
this..but I do know it exists....

I can't figure out the "common" reason as to why this happens, but it only
happens in rare cases.....

However, I do appreciate your input, and I always a welcome your help, even
when it did not help!