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Herfried K. Wagner [MVP]

* "Fergus Cooney said:
Herfried often gives links to his part of the mvps.org site. This presents
the visitor with a pageful of German, which most people can't understand, of

I will add a link to Google's translation feature in the next release
(still working on it).
course. They then have to navigate to another page of German which explains
the particular topic. Then they have to download a zip of a project, which
presumably is in German as well. (It may not be of course, but it's a
reasonable assumption).

The license agreement is written in English.

:)
When I give links to palmbytes.de, I always give people instructions to
ignore the German and download the project. And I tell them that the project
itself is in English. This way they won't be 'frightened off' before they get
to the useful bit.

Perhaps Herfried could add the same reassurances to his file of links
where they refer to German web pages/sites. Perhaps not. ;-)

I often post links to English language ressources in the German groups,
but nobody complained about the fact that the pages were written in an
other language and the source was not commented in German. I think
that somebody who isn't lazy will try to get information even on a
non-German/English webpage.
 
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Herfried K. Wagner [MVP]

* "Fergus Cooney said:
Es ist auf Deutsch. Die Leute hier kann nicht verstehen Deutsch (for the
most part).

The code is written in VB.NET, there are many translators available for
free. I won't do any extra work only because some people are lazy.
The chances are pretty high that they'll take one look, say "What the
F*ck??!!", and move on.

People who think like this don't want to get an answer.
 
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Herfried K. Wagner [MVP]

* "Fergus Cooney said:
I make suggestions to Herfried, sometimes strongly. On that 'other issue'
I pushed hard. On this one I won't. But it's still always Herfried's choice
what he does, regardless of how I may feel about it. Any changes that he makes
are his.

I don't have enough time to maintain more than one version of the
content. I will never provide C# versions and I will never provide
English language comments.
I think I covered 'EN' - dotnet.languages.vb (en). ;-)

There is no ".en".
ps. Herfried, I hope it amuses you more than anything else to have us
nattering on about you like this. ;-)

I really like the discussion, but it's very OT.
 
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Herfried K. Wagner [MVP]

* "Cor said:
I understand you wanted to say that Microsoft is only for English speaking
people?

Microsoft doesn't have special groups for English speaking people.

SCNR
 
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Herfried K. Wagner [MVP]

* "Fergus Cooney said:
No, I mean this newsgroup - it's for English speaking people of any
nationality.

Where did you take this information from?
 
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Cor

Herfried,
I really like the discussion, but it's very OT.

On Topic Herfried, we started this thread about the way we have to behave us
in this newsgroup and that is always a On topic.
And if you read it from top till end it is all mixed up with Visual Basic
Language

Cor
 
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Herfried K. Wagner [MVP]

* "Cor said:
On Topic Herfried, we started this thread about the way we have to behave us
in this newsgroup and that is always a On topic.
And if you read it from top till end it is all mixed up with Visual Basic
Language

I read the whole thread and IMO most of it is OT.
 
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Fergus Cooney

Hi Herfried,

|| Where did you take this information from?

From my brain. Sometimes it makes the most startling deductions!!

Regards,
Fergus
 
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Fergus Cooney

Hi Herfried,

|| There is no ".en".

Did someone say there was?? I missed that bit.

Regards,
Fergus
 
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Fergus Cooney

Hi Herfried,

|| I will add a link to Google's translation feature in
|| the next release

|| (still working on it).

So's Google. Long way to go yet.

|| The license agreement is written in English.

LOL.

|| I often post links to English language ressources in the
|| German groups,

Where there's a surprisingly (to me) high degree of English spoken.

|| but nobody complained about the fact that the pages
|| were written in an other language

As I've mentioned in other threads, most people don't complain - they just
don't come back.

|| 'lazy'

That's a judgement that may be wide of the mark. There are other reasons
for not doing something - such as the fear* factor that I mentioned. You are
bi-lingual (at least/near enough/for the purposes of comparison/etc). I doubt
whether you'd understand this fear that I'm trying to describe. But then
again, maybe you would.

I think you understand how many VBers wouldn't want to examine C# code
because it's so 'foreign' - yet we both know that underneath the syntax
differences, they have much in common - especially when the code is mainly
concerned with Framework utilisation.

This C# type 'fear' also occurs with the natural languages but with these
it is magnified**. [Other people have this fear with equations and will skip
right over them when reading a book, however innocuous they might be. Others
have it with poetry.]

Regards,
Fergus

* 'Fear' is perhaps too strong a word. I use it in the sense of discomfort at
encountering something which can't be understood - the unknown/unknowable is
somethig to fear. Or, at least, to be moved away from.

** Like most human issues - for <some> people.
 
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Fergus Cooney

Hi Cor,

|| the communicators don't have to know more of
|| English than is necessary to communicate,

We've see plenty of that in both language and typing skills.

|| English speaking people <of any nationality>

Yes - English as an interface (and a very flexible one at that!).

But it would be interesting to see what would happen if a query came here
in a foreign language.

In the vb.winapi there <was> one such topic. The amazing thing is that
someone actually responded to it. See for yourself [http://tinyurl.com/qi1y].
For some reason the full thread isn't there but the missing posts are included
in the ones that <are> there.

Cheers,
Fergus

[Repost - the first one (10:15pm) went to non@non by mistake.]
 
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Herfried K. Wagner [MVP]

* "Fergus Cooney said:
So's Google. Long way to go yet.

Update is finished, but I didn't have enough time to include the
translation feature yet.
Where there's a surprisingly (to me) high degree of English spoken.

You are right, most of the Germans speak English, but most of them don't
understand a lot. When reading your posts I don't understand every word.
As I've mentioned in other threads, most people don't complain - they just
don't come back.

I think if somebody _really_ wants an answer, he will ask for an
explanation of the code. But I remember I already mentioned that.

That's a judgement that may be wide of the mark. There are other reasons
for not doing something - such as the fear* factor that I mentioned. You are
bi-lingual (at least/near enough/for the purposes of comparison/etc). I doubt
whether you'd understand this fear that I'm trying to describe. But then
again, maybe you would.

I think you understand how many VBers wouldn't want to examine C# code
because it's so 'foreign' - yet we both know that underneath the syntax
differences, they have much in common - especially when the code is mainly
concerned with Framework utilisation.

I understand what you mean. From my own experience I can tell you that
I never ignored things I didn't understand. I tried to understand
them. Sometimes it's hard, but there are lots of people here who are
willing to help.
This C# type 'fear' also occurs with the natural languages but with these
it is magnified**. [Other people have this fear with equations and will skip
right over them when reading a book, however innocuous they might be. Others
have it with poetry.]

I don't understand people who have a C# fear. When posting a question
which is related to .NET programming, a solution in every .NET language
will be helpful (if it doesn't make use of features included in a
specific .NET programming language only).
 
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Herfried K. Wagner [MVP]

* "Fergus Cooney said:
But it would be interesting to see what would happen if a query came here
in a foreign language.

If there is a special group available for the OP's language, I will
redirect him/her to this group. IMO that's the best solution.
 
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Fergus Cooney

Hi Herfried,

|| I don't understand people who have a C# fear

Mm, I was hoping, but I'm not that surprised.

Regards,
Fergus
 
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Cor

Hi Herfried,
Did you know there is a special newsgroup for German speaking people
de.entwickler.dotnet.vb

No Herfried, redirecting people who ask in this group gives me immidiatly
the idea of a ghetto when you do it in that way, they do it not for nothing
in this group, like the spanish talking man who said, the spanish group is
bad.

Only when someone ask something in non English, than it can be maybe an
alternative.
And then only if you know that he too is using a Visual.Studio.Net in that
language and he is asking in that language.

My last message in this thread

Cor
 
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Herfried K. Wagner [MVP]

* "Cor said:
Did you know there is a special newsgroup for German speaking people
de.entwickler.dotnet.vb

I know this group... I remember I saw you there some weeks ago...
No Herfried, redirecting people who ask in this group gives me immidiatly
the idea of a ghetto when you do it in that way, they do it not for nothing
in this group, like the spanish talking man who said, the spanish group is
bad.

Redirecting makes sense if the OP doesn't know that a group in his/her
language exists. Very often the OP will have a better chance to get an
answer in the group for his language.
Only when someone ask something in non English, than it can be maybe an
alternative.

I am only talking about this case.
And then only if you know that he too is using a Visual.Studio.Net in that
language and he is asking in that language.

My last message in this thread

ACK.

EOT
 

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