I use Moco or player... but probly wont do any group lans from this site till feb when i switch to 5 meg. just because its probly a uk server and running over 120 ping is just nasty. but should be just fine when i switch. any special server most of you play in? also, i havent played in 6 mnths. but liek someone else wrote,. gotta start somewhere. and while some are very experienced. there is still very many newbs out there to play with till you learn more, if you need any help, when i get back on, I'll give you a hand. the best way is to sit in a room with just 1 other person and have them strafe "play easy" on you untill you get more used to it, i jumped right in playing with guys playing for years after that. losing really really badly, but a good way to learn.