Copying a DVD isn't as simple as you make it out to be (Tom Hanks Castaway)


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Derek Chen-Becker

This backing up of a DVDs isn't as simple as you guys make it seem.

I wanted to copy my first DVD so I downloaded the programs you guys are always
talking about. After three days, I still failed on my first DVD, Tom Hanks
Castaway DTS (whatever DTS means).

As per your instructions, I tried DVD Shrink 3.2, but it kept throwing cyclic
redundancy errors within 30 seconds after choosing to "Re-author" "Main Movie"
"Title 1". At "27% Analysing", just as Tom Hanks drags the yellow airplane
life raft onto the beach, I hear a plink and a message consistently pops up
saying "DVD Shrink encountered an error and cannot continue. Failed to read
file "D:\". Data error cyclic redundancy check)."

I cleaned the CASTAWAY DVD disc and tried again with exactly the same error. I
toothpasted it and it still happens.

So I try DVDFabDecrypter 2.9.6.8 on this CASTAWAY_DTS disc but it crunches for
almost a complete day seemingly stuck for many hours on VTS_03_3.VOB before I
cancel the job in frustration.

I try DVD Decrypter 3.5.4.0, but it too crunches for ten hours before I cancel
that job in similar frustration. The first part of the DVD Decrypter log is
below. Basically DVD Decrypter failed to decrypt VTS_03_3.VOB.

Copying a simple DVD isn't as easy as you guys make it out to be.
Three days later and I still don't have a working backup.
What am I doing wrong?

Carol
I 09:25:19 DVD Decrypter Version 3.5.4.0 started!
I 09:25:19 Microsoft Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600 : Service Pack 2)
I 09:25:19 Initialising SPTI...
I 09:25:19 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices...
I 09:25:19 Found 1 DVD-ROM/CD-RW drive
W 09:25:24 Possible RCE Protection Found!
W 09:25:24 Media region code: 1
W 09:25:26 User selected Region 1 for the disc's region code.
I 09:25:36 Operation Started!
I 09:25:36 Source Media Type: DVD-ROM
I 09:25:36 Source Media Region Code: 1
I 09:25:36 Source Media Copyright Protection System Type: CSS/CPPM
I 09:25:36 Source Media Implementation Identifier: MEI
I 09:25:36 Destination Folder: C:\CASTAWAY_DTS
I 09:25:36 File Splitting: By File
I 09:25:36 Detect Mastering Errors: No
I 09:25:36 Multi Angle Processing: No
I 09:25:36 Remove Macrovision Protection: Yes
I 09:25:36 Stream Processing: No
I 09:25:36 Copying VIDEO_TS.IFO... (LBA: 320 - 332) - KEY: N/A
I 09:25:36 Copying VIDEO_TS.VOB... (LBA: 333 - 1153) - KEY: N/A
I 09:25:38 Copying VIDEO_TS.BUP... (LBA: 1154 - 1166) - KEY: N/A
I 09:25:38 Copying VTS_01_0.IFO... (LBA: 1167 - 1175) - KEY: N/A
I 09:25:38 Copying VTS_01_0.VOB... (LBA: 1176 - 1399) - KEY: N/A
I 09:25:38 Copying VTS_01_1.VOB... (LBA: 1400 - 1404) - KEY: N/A
I 09:25:38 Copying VTS_01_0.BUP... (LBA: 1405 - 1413) - KEY: N/A
I 09:25:39 Copying VTS_02_0.IFO... (LBA: 1414 - 1423) - KEY: N/A
I 09:25:39 Copying VTS_02_0.VOB... (LBA: 1424 - 1524) - KEY: N/A
I 09:25:39 Copying VTS_02_1.VOB... (LBA: 1525 - 11364) - KEY: N/A
I 09:25:53 Copying VTS_02_0.BUP... (LBA: 11365 - 11374) - KEY: N/A
I 09:25:53 Copying VTS_03_0.IFO... (LBA: 11375 - 11425) - KEY: N/A
I 09:25:53 Decrypting VTS_03_0.VOB... (LBA: 11426 - 100620) - KEY: C1 87 78 F8
65
I 09:27:55 Decrypting VTS_03_1.VOB... (LBA: 100621 - 624892) - KEY: C1 87 78
F8 65
I 09:39:24 Decrypting VTS_03_2.VOB... (LBA: 624893 - 1149164) - KEY: C1 87 78
F8 65
I 09:51:23 Decrypting VTS_03_3.VOB... (LBA: 1149165 - 1673436) - KEY: C1 87 78
F8 65
W 09:52:04 Failed to read Sector 1175712 - Unrecovered Read Error
W 09:52:05 Failed to read Sector 1175713 - Unrecovered Read Error
W 09:52:06 Failed to read Sector 1175714 - Unrecovered Read Error
W 09:52:08 Failed to read Sector 1175760 - Unrecovered Read Error
W 09:52:09 Failed to read Sector 1175761 - Unrecovered Read Error

many many more of these errors

W 19:50:52 Failed to read Sector 1183558 - Unrecovered Read Error
W 19:51:20 Failed to read Sector 1183559 - Unrecovered Read Error
W 19:51:44 Failed to read Sector 1183560 - Unrecovered Read Error
I 19:51:54 Abort Request Acknowledged
W 19:52:01 Failed to read Sector 1183561 - Unrecovered Read Error
E 19:52:03 Failed to decrypt VTS_03_3.VOB!
E 19:52:03 Operation Aborted! - Duration: 10:26:26
E 19:52:03 Average Read Rate: 62 KB/s (0.0x) - Maximum Read Rate: 1,813 KB/s
(1.3x)
I 19:52:06 Close Request Acknowledged
I 19:52:06 Closing Down...
I 19:52:06 Shutting down SPTI...
I 19:52:06 DVD Decrypter closed!
 
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unclejr

Derek said:
This backing up of a DVDs isn't as simple as you guys make it seem.

You have a bad disc. Does it play fine on your DVD player? Have you
tried a different optical drive to read the disc besides the one that's
giving you errors? Sometimes unreadable sectors on one drive are
readable on another.

-Junior
 
G

GraB

You have a bad disc. Does it play fine on your DVD player? Have you
tried a different optical drive to read the disc besides the one that's
giving you errors? Sometimes unreadable sectors on one drive are
readable on another.

-Junior

Yes, could be a bad disc. I have one, The Fugitive, which I got
replaced but it is defective in exactly the same place on the PC,
which makes it a pressing fault. But it plays OK on my standalone.
Some drives have different error correction algorithms so some can
cope with one fault while another may not, but that may cope with a
fault the first one can't. I am considering getting a second DVD
drive of a different make for my PC to cover that.
 
D

dockerit

Hi there - download slysoft DVD anywhere and DVd clone ......they are
free for 21 days and copy everyting......i no longer use shrink or
decrypter - this thing does it all in 30 mins
 
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Mark Burns

Hi Carol:

Nothing is as easy as we make it out to be!

I agree with Junior's post, that it is probably a scratched or flawed
disk. However, many of us have been able to salvage damaged disks with
DD.

With DD 3.5.4, click Tools, Settings, and the I/O tab.

Change the options settings in the lower right corner:

Software Read Error Retrys: 0
Software Write Error Retrys: 1
Ignore Read Errors: checked

You may also wish to try cleaning the disk. Simply use a dab of
toothpaste, water and tissue and clean the disk left-right, not
round-and-around. Then dry and polish with a lens cloth.

Lastly, some DVD readers are better at deciphering errors than others.
My Sony is not so good, my Pioneer is very good.

Cheers...

Mark
 
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dadiOH

Hi there - download slysoft DVD anywhere and DVd clone ......they are
free for 21 days and copy everyting......i no longer use shrink or
decrypter - this thing does it all in 30 mins

Except it/they won't shrink the movie to fit on a standard DVD if the
movie exceeds that length. Most do.

--
dadiOH
____________________________

dadiOH's dandies v3.06...
....a help file of info about MP3s, recording from
LP/cassette and tips & tricks on this and that.
Get it at http://mysite.verizon.net/xico
 
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dadiOH

Derek said:
This backing up of a DVDs isn't as simple as you guys make it seem.

Yes it is. Note the following clues...
W 19:50:52 Failed to read Sector 1183558 - Unrecovered Read Error
W 19:51:20 Failed to read Sector 1183559 - Unrecovered Read Error
W 19:51:44 Failed to read Sector 1183560 - Unrecovered Read Error

--
dadiOH
____________________________

dadiOH's dandies v3.06...
....a help file of info about MP3s, recording from
LP/cassette and tips & tricks on this and that.
Get it at http://mysite.verizon.net/xico
 
X

xeaglecrest

Derek said:
This backing up of a DVDs isn't as simple as you guys make it seem.

I wanted to copy my first DVD so I downloaded the programs you guys are always
talking about. After three days, I still failed on my first DVD, Tom Hanks
Castaway DTS (whatever DTS means).

As per your instructions, I tried DVD Shrink 3.2, but it kept throwing cyclic
redundancy errors within 30 seconds after choosing to "Re-author" "Main Movie"

Did it cross your mind to try ripping a different disc to see what
happens?
 
A

AnthonyR.

Derek Chen-Becker said:
This backing up of a DVDs isn't as simple as you guys make it seem.

I wanted to copy my first DVD so I downloaded the programs you guys are
always
I cleaned the CASTAWAY DVD disc and tried again with exactly the same
error. I
toothpasted it and it still happens.

Carol, yes you have a bad sector error, how I get around that occasionally
with dvdshrink is, reauthor the main movie, and use the out point slider to
find the exact part the trouble is at, then select just before it.
Then add the movie to the list again, but this time in the second one, use
the in point slider to select just after the part that freezes up.

Now when you re-author the movie, it skips the bad part, it completes, if
there aren't also other bad sectors and adds a chapter point there.
You get burnable vob files, but no menus. It's one way to salvage a bad disc
using DVD shrink I found. :)

Good Luck,
AnthonyR.
 
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JimK

This backing up of a DVDs isn't as simple as you guys make it seem.

I wanted to copy my first DVD so I downloaded the programs you guys are always
talking about. After three days, I still failed on my first DVD, Tom Hanks
Castaway DTS (whatever DTS means).

As per your instructions, I tried DVD Shrink 3.2, but it kept throwing cyclic
redundancy errors within 30 seconds after choosing to "Re-author" "Main Movie"
"Title 1". At "27% Analysing", just as Tom Hanks drags the yellow airplane
life raft onto the beach, I hear a plink and a message consistently pops up
saying "DVD Shrink encountered an error and cannot continue. Failed to read
file "D:\". Data error cyclic redundancy check)."

I cleaned the CASTAWAY DVD disc and tried again with exactly the same error. I
toothpasted it and it still happens.

So I try DVDFabDecrypter 2.9.6.8 on this CASTAWAY_DTS disc but it crunches for
almost a complete day seemingly stuck for many hours on VTS_03_3.VOB before I
cancel the job in frustration.

I try DVD Decrypter 3.5.4.0, but it too crunches for ten hours before I cancel
that job in similar frustration. The first part of the DVD Decrypter log is
below. Basically DVD Decrypter failed to decrypt VTS_03_3.VOB.

Copying a simple DVD isn't as easy as you guys make it out to be.
Three days later and I still don't have a working backup.
What am I doing wrong?

Carol
I 09:25:19 DVD Decrypter Version 3.5.4.0 started!
I 09:25:19 Microsoft Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600 : Service Pack 2)
I 09:25:19 Initialising SPTI...
I 09:25:19 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices...
I 09:25:19 Found 1 DVD-ROM/CD-RW drive
W 09:25:24 Possible RCE Protection Found!
W 09:25:24 Media region code: 1
W 09:25:26 User selected Region 1 for the disc's region code.
I 09:25:36 Operation Started!
I 09:25:36 Source Media Type: DVD-ROM
I 09:25:36 Source Media Region Code: 1
I 09:25:36 Source Media Copyright Protection System Type: CSS/CPPM
I 09:25:36 Source Media Implementation Identifier: MEI
I 09:25:36 Destination Folder: C:\CASTAWAY_DTS
I 09:25:36 File Splitting: By File
I 09:25:36 Detect Mastering Errors: No
I 09:25:36 Multi Angle Processing: No
I 09:25:36 Remove Macrovision Protection: Yes
I 09:25:36 Stream Processing: No
I 09:25:36 Copying VIDEO_TS.IFO... (LBA: 320 - 332) - KEY: N/A
I 09:25:36 Copying VIDEO_TS.VOB... (LBA: 333 - 1153) - KEY: N/A
I 09:25:38 Copying VIDEO_TS.BUP... (LBA: 1154 - 1166) - KEY: N/A
I 09:25:38 Copying VTS_01_0.IFO... (LBA: 1167 - 1175) - KEY: N/A
I 09:25:38 Copying VTS_01_0.VOB... (LBA: 1176 - 1399) - KEY: N/A
I 09:25:38 Copying VTS_01_1.VOB... (LBA: 1400 - 1404) - KEY: N/A
I 09:25:38 Copying VTS_01_0.BUP... (LBA: 1405 - 1413) - KEY: N/A
I 09:25:39 Copying VTS_02_0.IFO... (LBA: 1414 - 1423) - KEY: N/A
I 09:25:39 Copying VTS_02_0.VOB... (LBA: 1424 - 1524) - KEY: N/A
I 09:25:39 Copying VTS_02_1.VOB... (LBA: 1525 - 11364) - KEY: N/A
I 09:25:53 Copying VTS_02_0.BUP... (LBA: 11365 - 11374) - KEY: N/A
I 09:25:53 Copying VTS_03_0.IFO... (LBA: 11375 - 11425) - KEY: N/A
I 09:25:53 Decrypting VTS_03_0.VOB... (LBA: 11426 - 100620) - KEY: C1 87 78 F8
65
I 09:27:55 Decrypting VTS_03_1.VOB... (LBA: 100621 - 624892) - KEY: C1 87 78
F8 65
I 09:39:24 Decrypting VTS_03_2.VOB... (LBA: 624893 - 1149164) - KEY: C1 87 78
F8 65
I 09:51:23 Decrypting VTS_03_3.VOB... (LBA: 1149165 - 1673436) - KEY: C1 87 78
F8 65
W 09:52:04 Failed to read Sector 1175712 - Unrecovered Read Error
W 09:52:05 Failed to read Sector 1175713 - Unrecovered Read Error
W 09:52:06 Failed to read Sector 1175714 - Unrecovered Read Error
W 09:52:08 Failed to read Sector 1175760 - Unrecovered Read Error
W 09:52:09 Failed to read Sector 1175761 - Unrecovered Read Error

many many more of these errors

W 19:50:52 Failed to read Sector 1183558 - Unrecovered Read Error
W 19:51:20 Failed to read Sector 1183559 - Unrecovered Read Error
W 19:51:44 Failed to read Sector 1183560 - Unrecovered Read Error
I 19:51:54 Abort Request Acknowledged
W 19:52:01 Failed to read Sector 1183561 - Unrecovered Read Error
E 19:52:03 Failed to decrypt VTS_03_3.VOB!
E 19:52:03 Operation Aborted! - Duration: 10:26:26
E 19:52:03 Average Read Rate: 62 KB/s (0.0x) - Maximum Read Rate: 1,813 KB/s
(1.3x)
I 19:52:06 Close Request Acknowledged
I 19:52:06 Closing Down...
I 19:52:06 Shutting down SPTI...
I 19:52:06 DVD Decrypter closed!


Sounds like Bad Sector Copy Protection

Try DVDFab Decrypter, then use DVD Shrink 3.2 on folders on HD
http://www.videohelp.com/tools?tool=DVDFab_Decrypter

Or you might have to use IsoBuster to recover damage files off DVD.
and put VIDEO_TS and AUDIO_TS on your hard drive then process.
Then use SmartRipper 2.41 or DVD Decrypter then DVD Shrink 3.2
http://www.isobuster.com/


www.videohelp.com
 
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SBFan2000

basic troubleshooting 101, try another disc!


Derek Chen-Becker said:
This backing up of a DVDs isn't as simple as you guys make it seem.

I wanted to copy my first DVD so I downloaded the programs you guys are always
talking about. After three days, I still failed on my first DVD, Tom Hanks
Castaway DTS (whatever DTS means).

As per your instructions, I tried DVD Shrink 3.2, but it kept throwing cyclic
redundancy errors within 30 seconds after choosing to "Re-author" "Main Movie"
"Title 1". At "27% Analysing", just as Tom Hanks drags the yellow airplane
life raft onto the beach, I hear a plink and a message consistently pops up
saying "DVD Shrink encountered an error and cannot continue. Failed to read
file "D:\". Data error cyclic redundancy check)."

I cleaned the CASTAWAY DVD disc and tried again with exactly the same error. I
toothpasted it and it still happens.

So I try DVDFabDecrypter 2.9.6.8 on this CASTAWAY_DTS disc but it crunches for
almost a complete day seemingly stuck for many hours on VTS_03_3.VOB before I
cancel the job in frustration.

I try DVD Decrypter 3.5.4.0, but it too crunches for ten hours before I cancel
that job in similar frustration. The first part of the DVD Decrypter log is
below. Basically DVD Decrypter failed to decrypt VTS_03_3.VOB.

Copying a simple DVD isn't as easy as you guys make it out to be.
Three days later and I still don't have a working backup.
What am I doing wrong?

Carol
I 09:25:19 DVD Decrypter Version 3.5.4.0 started!
I 09:25:19 Microsoft Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600 : Service Pack 2)
I 09:25:19 Initialising SPTI...
I 09:25:19 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices...
I 09:25:19 Found 1 DVD-ROM/CD-RW drive
W 09:25:24 Possible RCE Protection Found!
W 09:25:24 Media region code: 1
W 09:25:26 User selected Region 1 for the disc's region code.
I 09:25:36 Operation Started!
I 09:25:36 Source Media Type: DVD-ROM
I 09:25:36 Source Media Region Code: 1
I 09:25:36 Source Media Copyright Protection System Type: CSS/CPPM
I 09:25:36 Source Media Implementation Identifier: MEI
I 09:25:36 Destination Folder: C:\CASTAWAY_DTS
I 09:25:36 File Splitting: By File
I 09:25:36 Detect Mastering Errors: No
I 09:25:36 Multi Angle Processing: No
I 09:25:36 Remove Macrovision Protection: Yes
I 09:25:36 Stream Processing: No
I 09:25:36 Copying VIDEO_TS.IFO... (LBA: 320 - 332) - KEY: N/A
I 09:25:36 Copying VIDEO_TS.VOB... (LBA: 333 - 1153) - KEY: N/A
I 09:25:38 Copying VIDEO_TS.BUP... (LBA: 1154 - 1166) - KEY: N/A
I 09:25:38 Copying VTS_01_0.IFO... (LBA: 1167 - 1175) - KEY: N/A
I 09:25:38 Copying VTS_01_0.VOB... (LBA: 1176 - 1399) - KEY: N/A
I 09:25:38 Copying VTS_01_1.VOB... (LBA: 1400 - 1404) - KEY: N/A
I 09:25:38 Copying VTS_01_0.BUP... (LBA: 1405 - 1413) - KEY: N/A
I 09:25:39 Copying VTS_02_0.IFO... (LBA: 1414 - 1423) - KEY: N/A
I 09:25:39 Copying VTS_02_0.VOB... (LBA: 1424 - 1524) - KEY: N/A
I 09:25:39 Copying VTS_02_1.VOB... (LBA: 1525 - 11364) - KEY: N/A
I 09:25:53 Copying VTS_02_0.BUP... (LBA: 11365 - 11374) - KEY: N/A
I 09:25:53 Copying VTS_03_0.IFO... (LBA: 11375 - 11425) - KEY: N/A
I 09:25:53 Decrypting VTS_03_0.VOB... (LBA: 11426 - 100620) - KEY: C1 87 78 F8
65
I 09:27:55 Decrypting VTS_03_1.VOB... (LBA: 100621 - 624892) - KEY: C1 87 78
F8 65
I 09:39:24 Decrypting VTS_03_2.VOB... (LBA: 624893 - 1149164) - KEY: C1 87 78
F8 65
I 09:51:23 Decrypting VTS_03_3.VOB... (LBA: 1149165 - 1673436) - KEY: C1 87 78
F8 65
W 09:52:04 Failed to read Sector 1175712 - Unrecovered Read Error
W 09:52:05 Failed to read Sector 1175713 - Unrecovered Read Error
W 09:52:06 Failed to read Sector 1175714 - Unrecovered Read Error
W 09:52:08 Failed to read Sector 1175760 - Unrecovered Read Error
W 09:52:09 Failed to read Sector 1175761 - Unrecovered Read Error

many many more of these errors

W 19:50:52 Failed to read Sector 1183558 - Unrecovered Read Error
W 19:51:20 Failed to read Sector 1183559 - Unrecovered Read Error
W 19:51:44 Failed to read Sector 1183560 - Unrecovered Read Error
I 19:51:54 Abort Request Acknowledged
W 19:52:01 Failed to read Sector 1183561 - Unrecovered Read Error
E 19:52:03 Failed to decrypt VTS_03_3.VOB!
E 19:52:03 Operation Aborted! - Duration: 10:26:26
E 19:52:03 Average Read Rate: 62 KB/s (0.0x) - Maximum Read Rate: 1,813 KB/s
(1.3x)
I 19:52:06 Close Request Acknowledged
I 19:52:06 Closing Down...
I 19:52:06 Shutting down SPTI...
I 19:52:06 DVD Decrypter closed!
 
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Margrave of Brandenburg

GraB said:
Yes, could be a bad disc. I have one, The Fugitive, which I got
replaced but it is defective in exactly the same place on the PC,
which makes it a pressing fault. But it plays OK on my standalone.
Some drives have different error correction algorithms so some can
cope with one fault while another may not, but that may cope with a
fault the first one can't. I am considering getting a second DVD
drive of a different make for my PC to cover that.

Exactly. We've recently seen three DVDs from Net Flix that won't copy
due to disk errors. (No visible scratches. Probably manufacturing
defects.)
 
C

Craig

Margrave said:
...We've recently seen three DVDs from Net Flix that won't copy
due to disk errors.

!!!Why those Charlatans!!! If I were you, I'd start a letter-writing
campaign. The indignities!

omfg!

Craig
 
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Peter Seiler

SBFan2000 - 25.01.2006 00:01 :
basic troubleshooting 101, try another disc!

NO need for

1. fullquoting (~130 quotinglines snipped) only to say that one line

2. crossposting into 5 NGs

3. top posting

Please learn usenet behavior first. THX.
 
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dansheen

Derek Chen-Becker wrote:

This backing up of a DVDs isn't as simple as you guys make it seem.

It's simple with the right instructions. I found Scuba Pete's
tutorials when I was making my first backup and it worked perfectly. He
has step by step instructions with pictures. Make sure you pick the
tutorial for dvd decryptor or shrink since he has tutorials for
different software including some pay ones.:

http://www.dvdplusvideo.com/tutorial007.html
 
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martin jones

Well, on my computer I use a DVD-RAM (panasonic...both the optical
burner and the player on my TV) ... I also have a CD-R /RW but who does
videoCDs anymore these days?

A DVD-RAM under UDF really ends the hassle. I can use the DVD-RAM drive
to get the TS_video and TS_audio data off DVD's using FabDVD decrypter
(which is FAR better than DVD Decrypter!), then I use DVDx to make a
super video CD based mpeg that I can burn onto a DVD-RAM disk that plays
back on the DVD-RAM player with my TV or the DVD-RAM burner on my PC.

DVD-+R / RW technology drives me nuts!

The only drawback is no 6 channels of sound ( hey, when it comes to
'home theater' my audio is a Bose table top system anyway and my TV is
analog...6 channel ace3 sound? Don't need it).

Another is DVDx needs to be tweaked..usually I have to render in 24 fps
NTSC and I have to play around with bitrates ...usually 800 to 900 kbps
will work on video and about 128 kbps on audio....default settings for
bitrates on DVDx usually gets me an mpeg with underflows even if 3/2
pulldown is performed. That's were you really gotta watch it. fps vs.
bitrate. You can really have a mess on your hands if there is no synergy
on these two processing elements.

But ripping/burning DVD to DVD? I'd just as soon surf the net with a
300 baud modem and a TRS-80 computer.
 
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