Copy Protection!

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WiseMan

Greetings,

A shared folder in my computer can be accessed (Read Only) by all
computers in our small office local network, how can i protect my files in
this shared folder from being copied?!!!

Thanks in advance
 
Read about System Administration in your Windows "help". It will
explain how to manage security.

Hope this is useful to you. Let us know.

rms

P.S. You posted to way to many groups... I'm replying in only one.
 
little paranoid aren't we...
well, anyway...burn them to a cd or dvd...don't keep them on the HD....
hey, think you could find anymore newsgroups to post this in.....
 
WiseMan said:
A shared folder in my computer can be accessed (Read Only) by all
computers in our small office local network, how can i protect my files in
this shared folder from being copied?!!!

Hi

Sorry, you cannot (I assume that all the users is supposed to
have read access to the shared folder). If a file can be read,
it can be copied as well...


--
torgeir
Microsoft MVP Scripting and WMI, Porsgrunn Norway
Administration scripting examples and an ONLINE version of the 1328 page
Scripting Guide:
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/community/scriptcenter/default.mspx
 
Hello Mr. Torgeir Bakken

Greetings,
Sorry, you cannot

Not at all :-))
(I assume that all the users is supposed to have read access to the shared
folder)

Smart assumption ;-)
If a file can be read, it can be copied as well...

Simple but Valuable fact :-O

Yes, you are right, i doubted it from the begining!!

Thank you for being smart enough to understand what i exactly needed,
your clear, direct, honest statment, your smart assumptions! and for your
respecting people's intelligence.

Thank you :)
 
You can encrypt the folder containing your files. Only you can access data
that you encrypted, whether locally or over the network. This is an NTFS
feature. HD has to be formatted NTFS.
right click folder > properties > Advanced > "enable"
 
WiseMan said:
Greetings,

A shared folder in my computer can be accessed (Read Only) by all
computers in our small office local network, how can i protect my files in
this shared folder from being copied?!!!

Thanks in advance

If it's a MS suite DOC such as word, excel, you can password protect your
document. This will probably also work in other suite packages as well.
Now you also say it's shared on your computer. Is it shared meaning the
files exist on a remote server and everyone has access to it, or is it local
on your system?

If you have no contol over your share and you don't want users to access
your files, perhaps putting them in another location local on your system
that's not shared or encrypt your files.
 
Greetings,
obviously, no one in here understood me except Mr. Torgeir Bakken! i think
its my fault, perhaps it's because of my weak english or maybe i didn't
clarify things!!!
all what you said gentlemen is great and i appreciate it but it's for
beginners, and i'm not one of them (i suppose!!!) i know every thing about
NTFS encryption, protecting MS-Office files by passwords etc etc..
my question simply was:
i want to let that folder remain shared, i want my clients to remain seeing
the
folder, accessing all it's contents (but Read Only sharing)
The only thing i do NOT want is i don't want them
to COPY any of the contents of that folder to their storage medias!!!
haven't i made my self clear? i hope so lol

Regards :)
 
If you can see it, you can copy it by some means, perhaps
you print to a file and then open the file.

What you want and can do is prevent them from editing the
content on your computer. The read only sharing will do
that.

You could make copying a little more difficult by making
your objects images with layers, place a transparent image
on top layer and if they right click to copy they will get
only the transparent image layer.


| Greetings,
| obviously, no one in here understood me except Mr. Torgeir
Bakken! i think
| its my fault, perhaps it's because of my weak english or
maybe i didn't
| clarify things!!!
| all what you said gentlemen is great and i appreciate it
but it's for
| beginners, and i'm not one of them (i suppose!!!) i know
every thing about
| NTFS encryption, protecting MS-Office files by passwords
etc etc..
| my question simply was:
| i want to let that folder remain shared, i want my clients
to remain seeing
| the
| folder, accessing all it's contents (but Read Only
sharing)
| The only thing i do NOT want is i don't want them
| to COPY any of the contents of that folder to their
storage medias!!!
| haven't i made my self clear? i hope so lol
|
| Regards :)
|
|
|
|
 
all what you said gentlemen is great and i appreciate it but it's for
beginners

Hello. Some answers addressed the question on a basic level because you
cross-posted the question to windowsxp.basics. The meaning of "basics" can
mean different things to different folks and perhaps it is a poor title for
the topics the newsgroup usually covers.

Torgier is amazing and I'm glad that he was able to help you find the
answer you were seeking.
 
ok ok guys i surrender. let them copy whatever they want!!!
grrrrrrrrrr %$#*!!&$

"I Shall Not Wast My Life Trying To Enlong It"
WiseMan
 
On Thu, 18 Mar 2004 13:19:07 -0800, "Drew Cooper [MSFT]"
(Sorry to reply to the massive cross-post.)

Hooyyy, ICWYM!

I'll leave 'em in as I dunno where you are reading from; I'm reading
you here in security_admin if you want to trim your replies to me.
Rights Management is the Microsoft solution to this problem. See Digital
Rights Management in Windows and Information Rights Management in Office:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/drm.aspx
http://www.microsoft.com/office/editions/prodinfo/technologies/irm.mspx

How available is this?

Not in terms of whether it's out, but rather as barrier to entry. As
a musician, can I afford this to protect my own releases? Or is this
a new reason to be chained to the big media pimps?

Shame, that subject line made me ask myself; what on earth could
Torgeir have done to offend the poster? <g>


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The rights you save may be your own
 
cquirke said:
On Thu, 18 Mar 2004 13:19:07 -0800, "Drew Cooper [MSFT]"

Shame, that subject line made me ask myself; what on earth could
Torgeir have done to offend the poster? <g>


LOL. If you read the rest of the post, it's the other way around,
I was the only one understanding his problem fully.
 
(snipping all but windowsxp.security_admin)

Here are some docs that look like they're geared toward content providers:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/drm/whitepapers.aspx
I'm assuming that's for folks who are going to put content servers on the
net - probably a steep investment for the average musician.

There are also links to partner companies:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/drm/9series/providers.aspx
I don't know whether they count as "media pimps" or not, but (and I'm
assuming again) there are probably companies out there that release
DRM-protected music for a fee.

The windowsmedia.drm newsgroup might have helpful information. They seem to
have discussions ranging from how to use their SDK to how RM fits into a
business model.

I'm not an RM guru, although I do see them in the hallway. A few links is
really all I have to offer. Hope they help.
--
Drew Cooper [MSFT]
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.


cquirke (MVP Win9x) said:
On Thu, 18 Mar 2004 13:19:07 -0800, "Drew Cooper [MSFT]"
(Sorry to reply to the massive cross-post.)

Hooyyy, ICWYM!

I'll leave 'em in as I dunno where you are reading from; I'm reading
you here in security_admin if you want to trim your replies to me.
Rights Management is the Microsoft solution to this problem. See Digital
Rights Management in Windows and Information Rights Management in Office:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/drm.aspx
http://www.microsoft.com/office/editions/prodinfo/technologies/irm.mspx

How available is this?

Not in terms of whether it's out, but rather as barrier to entry. As
a musician, can I afford this to protect my own releases? Or is this
a new reason to be chained to the big media pimps?

Shame, that subject line made me ask myself; what on earth could
Torgeir have done to offend the poster? <g>


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On Mon, 22 Mar 2004 15:46:17 -0800, "Drew Cooper [MSFT]"
(snipping all but windowsxp.security_admin)
Here are some docs that look like they're geared toward content providers:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/drm/whitepapers.aspx

Hm. I see:
- enablement for "spam" distribution
- built-in DoS payload
- built-in call-home

Not much to like, from a consumer's perspective. What if the site it
calls home to does somethiong other than offer a license?
I'm assuming that's for folks who are going to put content servers on the
net - probably a steep investment for the average musician.

The first paper didn't talk costs, more a matter of boasting how the
natutral advantages of digital data have been broken.

I looked at "personal licenses" and that was a brave-spin on how to
stop DRM from killing your "protected" material when changing PCs etc.

I found this:

" The license acquisition process allows companies to gather targeted
customer information. For example, many music distribution Web sites
now request the consumer's e-mail address in exchange for audio file
licenses. Music distribution companies can then use this e-mail
address to keep the consumer up-to-date on concert schedules and new
compact disc (CD) releases, or to market related merchandise."

Yep; goobye privacy, hullo spam.

Ah; here's the barrier to entry:

The DRM Web site and database require the following minimum software
configuration:

* Microsoft SQL Server 2000
* Windows Media Rights Manager SDK version 7.1
* Microsoft Internet Information Services (IIS) version 5.0 +
* Microsoft .NET Framework

Is this a single-vendor solution, or can one accomplish the same
results via open-source software?

I think it's the "service providers" I'd be most interested in, i.e.
those who encryt your content for you without coming to own it
themselves, and without requiring you to buy a ton of costly software
your old PC is too frail to run anyway :-)

http://www.streameu.com/pricing/calculator/streamukcalc.htm

That's what I'm clicking through now, a no-nosense way to find out
what it costs (in this case, for one 4 minute clip).

While waiting, I spotted this...

"...the Packager.aspx page could potentially locate files on a network
drive and encrypt them..."

....which looks like an invitation to malicious use. MS are famous for
ASSuming technologies will only be used the way they had in mind; else
how else could one explain:
- granting scripting rights to unsolicited email "message text"
- allowing scripts in cookies
- auto-running macros in RTF, TXT etc. where they shouldn't exist
- hiding the .exe extension + allowing .exe to set their own icon
- allowing Outbreak to be scripted to read addybook, sending email
- "blank" pwd as "no pwd" when pwd is all that stops pwd being set

Something that encrypts your data, then calls home to offer you a
license to it is quite a neat extortion racket.

Interesting that in the same page, MS recommends that content
providers do NOT allow users to backup their licenses. Rather
different to promises made elsewhere that you can do this.

Still no answer from the "calculator" site. Never mind; here's

http://www.buydrm.com/

"We have seen the enemy - and she's a 12-year-old girl"

Charming. Rule number one; hate your customers.

The next link is: "Securing your future with DRM [Warning: This links
to an adult resource]" ...interesting. Sure enough, it's the flesh
pimps this time, who note they have similar concerns as the RIAA...

"If you want to take trailers or full-length movies, and drop them
safely into P2P networks to drive traffic to your front door, then DRM
provides a viable and affordable option."

Hullo spam, part 2.

This looks interesting:

http://www.music2clear.com/index.htm

The URL stays unchanged when you click into topics like "Gaet-A-Seal",
which looks like what we as value *creators* (as opposed to pimps,
i.e. middle-men or "football owners") might be after. But as the FAQ
says, Get-A-Seal doesn't give you DRM content protection, so I guess
it isn't relevant to "how much does it cost to DRM my own material?"

The calculator still isn't calculating, so I'm giving up there. The
links from the MS site are all pretty glossy large operations, often
with web site that have the "MS look", but that's to be expected;
after all, you can't expect to find links to the mom-and-pop
operations from a huge site like MS's.

DRM's a hard sell, because basically it's a matter of more money for
crippled material. It only sells against natural content if natural
content is made to be a worse product, e.g. by harrassment risk.


I'm not adverse to anything that empowers value creators to derive
revenue for their value, preferably under their direct control.

Technology drops the barrier to...
- content creation (hi-quality consumer video cameras,
PC-based recording plus a consumer taste in music that
is computer-creation-friendly)
- content distribution (p2p, free hosting etc.)
- marketing (create a buzz; let consumers GoOgle
their way to you)
....which basically kills off most of the value one had to submit to
the media pimps to attain. What it has yet to do is...
- find a way to secure payment for value created
....and that's what the search is for.

DRM could be a problem, a solution, or an irrelevancy. From what I've
seen so far, it looks more barrier than bridge.
I don't know whether they count as "media pimps" or not, but (and I'm
assuming again) there are probably companies out there that release
DRM-protected music for a fee.

Yes, that's what I was hoping for; something menial like a
photocopying service, print shop, CD pressing plant etc.

I've BT and DT in my time, I had a cassette label in the 1980s to make
available music that the industry wouldn't touch. There were only two
record pressing plants in those days, run by dudes who were on
first-name terms with each other, which saved the regime of the day
from having to impose a more obvious censorship.

Even if you went to these places on the basis that you pay X per copy
of (say) 1000 disks with white sleeves, they could (and often did)
refuse to take the order. So we went cassette label instead, thus
sidelining the whole mess, as a way to get our stuff into ppl's ears.

The relationship between value creator and media "label" is long
overdue for revolution. Just as the railroad tycoons were the money
kings in the days of the wild west, so these corporations were the
robber barons of the late 20th century. I'm not saying they should go
to the wall; more that what they earn should be more in line with the
value they contribute to the process.
I'm not an RM guru, although I do see them in the hallway. A few links is
really all I have to offer. Hope they help.

They did, thanks! Generally, from a PC perspective, I think it is
VERY foolish to give any files (and especially code - noting how MS
allows media content to script and URL about) stronger rights than who
gets to sit behind the keyboard.

On that basis alone, DRM is a menace.


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