Connections, performance question

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Guest

I am getting an HP Media Center desktop computer, with AMD 64x2 5000+ with
Live, 2GB of RAM, and a 256mb video card. I HAVE a laptop with an ML-34
Turion 64, a 64mb video card, and 1GB of RAM. They will be connected via a
wirless network, and I am wondering several things:

a)can I connect these computers to work together somehow? To do something
together? I know for sure the desktop will run Vista premium like nothing...
But my laptop may be a little slower (I'm not sure how much), so if I can
connect them to mak them work together somehow, that would be cool... I can't
think of how to connect htem though.

b)How well will my laptop run gmaes such as Command and Conquer Generals if
I put Vista on there? With XP, I know that most gams run VERY easily. I dont
think I will enable Aero in Vista, so, with the Standard desktop setup, will
my games run any slower on the computer? Is there some way I can turn Vista's
load down so that it will run better, but have it on some quick key so that I
can turn it down without going through a bunch of steps each time?
 
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Richard G. Harper

a) Home computers do not have the ability to share resources, memory or CPU
cycles between them.

b) Your laptop sounds like it will run Vista fairly well except for the
older video display card. There's no need to "turn Vista's load down" -
this is the new memory management model in Vista. Like XP did, it will try
to find some use for any and all memory installed - but unlike XP it
generally, actually can eat up all your memory. If the claimed memory is
needed it will be released automatically by the operating system.

In other words "It works, so don't fix it!" :)

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Guest

a) now I'm interested! so what kind of computers CAN share resources?
now, for MY question: they dont necessarily have to share esources, but,
would it be possible for me to set it up where I can install a game on one
computer and access that game from the other (not just games, but programs in
general)

AND I want to have it setup in a practical way that the desktop (being the
main hub of the network) and the laptop both have the logon screen where, the
laptop SHOWS all 4 of the names, just the same as the desktop, but the only
one STORED on the laptop will be mine (michael). It sounds complicated, but
it just sounds like an advanced network that Im SURE has been done before....
Anyone know what this would be called or how to do it?

b) What exactly does the video card control? BEcause my friend and I were
running a LAN game of Warcraft 3, and his has a 128mb video card, only a half
gig RAM, and an intel 1.8Ghz, and, in the thick of a bettle on the game, the
battle slowed and started skiping i guess ou could say, on the screen, while
mine was running smoothly (mind you, he was hosting it)..... So, is it the
video card that would control the battle speed? OR the processor? (Im asking
this just for my own understanding of video cards)

Thanks for your help.
Richard G. Harper said:
a) Home computers do not have the ability to share resources, memory or CPU
cycles between them.

b) Your laptop sounds like it will run Vista fairly well except for the
older video display card. There's no need to "turn Vista's load down" -
this is the new memory management model in Vista. Like XP did, it will try
to find some use for any and all memory installed - but unlike XP it
generally, actually can eat up all your memory. If the claimed memory is
needed it will be released automatically by the operating system.

In other words "It works, so don't fix it!" :)

--
Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] (e-mail address removed)
* NEW! Catch my blog ... http://msmvps.com/blogs/rgharper/
* PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups
* The Website - http://rgharper.mvps.org/
* HELP us help YOU ... http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


"(e-mail address removed)"
I am getting an HP Media Center desktop computer, with AMD 64x2 5000+ with
Live, 2GB of RAM, and a 256mb video card. I HAVE a laptop with an ML-34
Turion 64, a 64mb video card, and 1GB of RAM. They will be connected via a
wirless network, and I am wondering several things:

a)can I connect these computers to work together somehow? To do something
together? I know for sure the desktop will run Vista premium like
nothing...
But my laptop may be a little slower (I'm not sure how much), so if I can
connect them to mak them work together somehow, that would be cool... I
can't
think of how to connect htem though.

b)How well will my laptop run gmaes such as Command and Conquer Generals
if
I put Vista on there? With XP, I know that most gams run VERY easily. I
dont
think I will enable Aero in Vista, so, with the Standard desktop setup,
will
my games run any slower on the computer? Is there some way I can turn
Vista's
load down so that it will run better, but have it on some quick key so
that I
can turn it down without going through a bunch of steps each time?
 
R

Richard G. Harper

Dude, look up "cluster computing". Let me say it again:

HOME COMPUTERS DON'T DO THIS STUFF. :)

Anything you can buy won't do this. Software CAN be shared if it's
configured to do so but you can't force hardware to do sharing if the
software won't let you.

"(e-mail address removed)"
a) now I'm interested! so what kind of computers CAN share resources?
now, for MY question: they dont necessarily have to share esources, but,
would it be possible for me to set it up where I can install a game on one
computer and access that game from the other (not just games, but programs
in
general)

AND I want to have it setup in a practical way that the desktop (being the
main hub of the network) and the laptop both have the logon screen where,
the
laptop SHOWS all 4 of the names, just the same as the desktop, but the
only
one STORED on the laptop will be mine (michael). It sounds complicated,
but
it just sounds like an advanced network that Im SURE has been done
before....
Anyone know what this would be called or how to do it?

b) What exactly does the video card control? BEcause my friend and I were
running a LAN game of Warcraft 3, and his has a 128mb video card, only a
half
gig RAM, and an intel 1.8Ghz, and, in the thick of a bettle on the game,
the
battle slowed and started skiping i guess ou could say, on the screen,
while
mine was running smoothly (mind you, he was hosting it)..... So, is it the
video card that would control the battle speed? OR the processor? (Im
asking
this just for my own understanding of video cards)

Thanks for your help.
Richard G. Harper said:
a) Home computers do not have the ability to share resources, memory or
CPU
cycles between them.

b) Your laptop sounds like it will run Vista fairly well except for the
older video display card. There's no need to "turn Vista's load down" -
this is the new memory management model in Vista. Like XP did, it will
try
to find some use for any and all memory installed - but unlike XP it
generally, actually can eat up all your memory. If the claimed memory is
needed it will be released automatically by the operating system.

In other words "It works, so don't fix it!" :)

--
Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] (e-mail address removed)
* NEW! Catch my blog ... http://msmvps.com/blogs/rgharper/
* PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups
* The Website - http://rgharper.mvps.org/
* HELP us help YOU ... http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


"(e-mail address removed)"
I am getting an HP Media Center desktop computer, with AMD 64x2 5000+
with
Live, 2GB of RAM, and a 256mb video card. I HAVE a laptop with an ML-34
Turion 64, a 64mb video card, and 1GB of RAM. They will be connected
via a
wirless network, and I am wondering several things:

a)can I connect these computers to work together somehow? To do
something
together? I know for sure the desktop will run Vista premium like
nothing...
But my laptop may be a little slower (I'm not sure how much), so if I
can
connect them to mak them work together somehow, that would be cool... I
can't
think of how to connect htem though.

b)How well will my laptop run gmaes such as Command and Conquer
Generals
if
I put Vista on there? With XP, I know that most gams run VERY easily. I
dont
think I will enable Aero in Vista, so, with the Standard desktop setup,
will
my games run any slower on the computer? Is there some way I can turn
Vista's
load down so that it will run better, but have it on some quick key so
that I
can turn it down without going through a bunch of steps each time?
 
G

Guest

wow... all I wanted was the first part of your answer. I understood after
your first message thatthey cant share hardware, but I know they can network
so that logging on to Michael on my laptop will allow me to access files on
my desktop... I jst dont know how to do it on Vista, and I was wondering if
there was a guide to doing that so tht I CAN do it once it comes out.


Richard G. Harper said:
Dude, look up "cluster computing". Let me say it again:

HOME COMPUTERS DON'T DO THIS STUFF. :)

Anything you can buy won't do this. Software CAN be shared if it's
configured to do so but you can't force hardware to do sharing if the
software won't let you.

"(e-mail address removed)"
a) now I'm interested! so what kind of computers CAN share resources?
now, for MY question: they dont necessarily have to share esources, but,
would it be possible for me to set it up where I can install a game on one
computer and access that game from the other (not just games, but programs
in
general)

AND I want to have it setup in a practical way that the desktop (being the
main hub of the network) and the laptop both have the logon screen where,
the
laptop SHOWS all 4 of the names, just the same as the desktop, but the
only
one STORED on the laptop will be mine (michael). It sounds complicated,
but
it just sounds like an advanced network that Im SURE has been done
before....
Anyone know what this would be called or how to do it?

b) What exactly does the video card control? BEcause my friend and I were
running a LAN game of Warcraft 3, and his has a 128mb video card, only a
half
gig RAM, and an intel 1.8Ghz, and, in the thick of a bettle on the game,
the
battle slowed and started skiping i guess ou could say, on the screen,
while
mine was running smoothly (mind you, he was hosting it)..... So, is it the
video card that would control the battle speed? OR the processor? (Im
asking
this just for my own understanding of video cards)

Thanks for your help.
Richard G. Harper said:
a) Home computers do not have the ability to share resources, memory or
CPU
cycles between them.

b) Your laptop sounds like it will run Vista fairly well except for the
older video display card. There's no need to "turn Vista's load down" -
this is the new memory management model in Vista. Like XP did, it will
try
to find some use for any and all memory installed - but unlike XP it
generally, actually can eat up all your memory. If the claimed memory is
needed it will be released automatically by the operating system.

In other words "It works, so don't fix it!" :)

--
Richard G. Harper [MVP Shell/User] (e-mail address removed)
* NEW! Catch my blog ... http://msmvps.com/blogs/rgharper/
* PLEASE post all messages and replies in the newsgroups
* The Website - http://rgharper.mvps.org/
* HELP us help YOU ... http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm


"(e-mail address removed)"
I am getting an HP Media Center desktop computer, with AMD 64x2 5000+
with
Live, 2GB of RAM, and a 256mb video card. I HAVE a laptop with an ML-34
Turion 64, a 64mb video card, and 1GB of RAM. They will be connected
via a
wirless network, and I am wondering several things:

a)can I connect these computers to work together somehow? To do
something
together? I know for sure the desktop will run Vista premium like
nothing...
But my laptop may be a little slower (I'm not sure how much), so if I
can
connect them to mak them work together somehow, that would be cool... I
can't
think of how to connect htem though.

b)How well will my laptop run gmaes such as Command and Conquer
Generals
if
I put Vista on there? With XP, I know that most gams run VERY easily. I
dont
think I will enable Aero in Vista, so, with the Standard desktop setup,
will
my games run any slower on the computer? Is there some way I can turn
Vista's
load down so that it will run better, but have it on some quick key so
that I
can turn it down without going through a bunch of steps each time?
 
G

Gene Fitz

Thunderstruck, I understand your issues. It would be nice if computers could
share their resources.
Sadly, computers like this aren't able to use clustering. That is something
made more of more advanced, or actually, lesser advanced computers
(super-computers).
However, if it does make you feel better, both your Media center box and
notebook will both run vista fine. Your desktop will run Home Premium, your
laptop will run Basic.
And though you can not share resources, you can share storage. I am using
both a Vista Notebook, and Vista desktop. I am sharing all the storage
between both the units, both onboard hard drives, and USB hard drives, and
through connection sharing, and a router, I have a network storage unit as
well.

I know this is probably no help, but it is an idea.


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Richard G. Harper

Again, you're going out of context - taking one bit of something you've read
and trying to expand it to fit things it doesn't fit.

Yes, computers can share resources (files, some printers, etc) on a network.
But that doesn't mean they can share installed programs. Nor does it mean
that Computer #2 can use a device or software installed on Computer #1. It
just don't work that way and never has regardless of the OS.

There are lots of web sites, books, etc. on networking; and networking in
Vista works pretty much the same as it does in Windows XP. A bit different
in some specifics but in general the concepts and designs are the same.
Since you don't want to install Vista and try it out, start learning on
whatever OS you currently have and expect to have to make a few minor mods
to your learning once you do get Vista.

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