Confusion over RAM utilization

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Daave

Do you happen to know if this DMA Mode 2 is something I can/should
fix?

Andy, that's a hardware question. You will have more success asking in a
hardware newsgroup. My guess is that might be a function of the cable or
chipset. If you plan on building a new PC soon anyway, I wouldn't lose
too much sleep over it.
PS: I have other postings here that I'd really like to answer, but
the
Microsoft Site is running soooooo slowly tonight that it's wearing me
out.

As I mentioned in my other post, you will enjoy this experience a lot
more if you no longer use the Web interface and instead use a news
reader. Fortunately, you can easily access any Microsoft newsgroup
directly via the Microsoft news server. However, you will need to use
another server in order to reach that other (alt hierarchy) group I
suggested. Does your ISP provide Usenet service? If not, there are a few
free news service providers that will work for you.
 
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dadiOH

Andy_XP_Devotee said:
What would be of great interest to me would be a general sense of
just how much this DMA Mode 2 is slowing me down.

There was discussion earlier about how a drive might slow down over
time, eventually winding up at PIO. When I later found this info
about the DMA Mode 2, I didn't think about applying a fix for it as
had been discussed earlier (Paul, again).

Do you happen to know if this DMA Mode 2 is something I can/should
fix? Or do you vote with Paul that I need to toss this drive and get
a new one?!

Seems to me that the drives you have now are doing a decent job judging from
the HD Tune screen shots you posted. They aren't the cause of your
complaints in your original post.

You might want to try Performance Test. It will test various aspects of
your machine and you can compare the results with other machines with
similar specs.
http://www.passmark.com/products/pt.htm

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Paul

Andy_XP_Devotee said:
I still need to work on some of the material Paul gave me, but Paul pretty
much said (nicely) that I needed a new drive! Maybe you would agree?

I noted the slight scattering of seek times on your C: drive. It
doesn't mean anything is broken. Your transfer rate curves look
head limited (so working properly). I suggested a new drive,
as a way to improve the performance a bit. If the computer is
behaving like a slug, there could well be another problem we
haven't detected yet. It is much easier to work on these
things, when you can actually see the system, and what aspect
of it is sluglike.

To give an example, there is one motherboard, using an SIS
chipset, where every attempt to reach a drive off the Southbridge,
results in a five second delay. During that time, there is no
activity detectable in Task Manager. It is like the read
request gets lost, somewhere at the driver versus hardware
level, and once you wait the timeout interval (5 seconds),
a second command is issued, and it is always successful. Which
suggests sloppy programming by SIS. Now, those symptoms are
very annoying, and I never actually did hear of someone
fixing it. That is an example, where you have to distinguish
between slow transfer performance, and an outright communications
problem.

Try some more benchmarks, and see if you can isolate which subsystem
seems to have the most impact.

A new drive for C:, could perk up your storage performance a bit,
but if some other thing is causing a problem, you still might not
be very happy.

Some fun tools (like owning a screwdriver or pliers), are things
like Process Explorer and Process Monitor. Explorer will give
you an overview of your system. I've used the Monitor program,
to figure out what registry entries an errant program might be
looking for.

Process Explorer
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb896653.aspx

Process Monitor
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb896645.aspx

http://www.sysinternals.com [was acquired by Microsoft]

Note that some AV programs, don't like tools like that, because
they access things that can trip heuristic malware protection.
On my other machine, Kaspersky would freeze the whole computer,
and need a reboot, if I use tools like that. So if you test
those programs, close other programs the first time you try it,
so you don't lose any work. For each program that doesn't
trip your AV software, place a text file in the folder containing
the tool, that says it is "safe". That way, you'll be able to
keep track of each Sysinternals program, that plays nice with
the rest of your ecosystem.

Paul
 
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Andy_XP_Devotee

Paul, again, these are great (fun) links.

I'm going to try and find this thread via the Usenet as Daave suggested in
one of his postings above. I'm new to Usenet (!), and I'm not sure how to
find Windows XP Newsgroups, but I'll get there eventually.

If I find you there, great. But I need to let go of this www posting. It
takes me longer just to get a connection than it does to read the postings
and reply, so I'm eager to make the move.

I need to post a few other quick notes here, and I already have a headache,
so please accept my too-hurried thanks for your help.

Andy
 
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Andy_XP_Devotee

dadiOH, . . . I've been reading your posts here, and I appreciate your
taking the time to help me with my machine.

I have saved the link to Passmark, and I'm eager to see what I can learn
there. If nothing else, it will be fun, as I always like sites like that.

Also, I've not overlooked your comments about my PSU. As I've mentioned,
I'm not wanting to do anything much with my present machine because I'm ready
to put together a new one. My main goal here was to better understand what
was going on with my old computer so that I could plan well for the new one.

In the way of a PSU, I've not yet picked one out, but I have bookmarked a
couple of excellent sites that do careful, measured comparison testing of
PSUs. If you are interested, these are the best 2 I've found to date:

http://www.jonnyguru.com

http://www.hardocp.com

I am going to leave this posting. I've learned a lot, but the posting
itself here on the web is giving me a headache. I've never actually used
Usenet (!), but I'm going to take the advice from Daave in his earlier
posting and make the jump. I'm HOPING to find this thread again via Usenet,
but I'm not positive I know how to do that!

So I may be back via Usenet. But I wanted to thank you for your postings
before I risked getting lost in the aether!

Thanks,

Andy
 
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Andy_XP_Devotee

Daave, hi. This is going to be my last posting here via the web. I have
taken your advice and gotten myself connected to the Usenet. But I am not,
just now, completely confident that I'll be able to find my way back here via
the Usenet! It seems easy enough, but when I entered the @lt address you
suggested, I got a BUNCH of discussions. Probably they are all part of the
ongoing talk there; I'm just too new to really know what I'm looking at!

I'm trying to reply to the postings left hanging here. This thread has been
a great help to me (and I've got enough homework to last me for a month!).
So thank you for that.

I'm hoping to find you again via the Usenet, but I wanted to sign off before
I move to the Usenet, just in case I got lost in the aether somewhere . . . !

Best regards,

Andy
 
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Daave

Andy_XP_Devotee said:
Daave, hi. This is going to be my last posting here via the web. I
have
taken your advice and gotten myself connected to the Usenet. But I am
not,
just now, completely confident that I'll be able to find my way back
here via
the Usenet!

It's very easy; you'll get the hang of it!

If you are using the Microsoft news server, just click on this link:

news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general

and your default news reader (Outlook Express, unless you have changed
it to a different one) will take you right back to the windowsxp.general
newsgroup. You may sort alphabetically by subject and you should be able
to find this thread that way. If you wish, you may click on Watch
Conversation (under the menu heading Message) so you can find it quickly
the next time you come back.

Also, if you keep on posting with the same handle (Andy_XP_Devotee),
Control+H will filter out all threads except those containing your
posts. Very handy! Control+H once more will toggle you back to the
standard view.
It seems easy enough, but when I entered the @lt address you
suggested, I got a BUNCH of discussions.

And that's all you get here, too. :)

Note that the address I gave you does not have the @ character. Use an
"a" in place of that. I did that because for some silly reason,
Microsoft's filters go a little nuts, and that particular newsgroup name
trips off the filtering! Also know you can't use the Microsoft news
server to go to alt groups.

See you back here soon!
 
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dadiOH

Andy_XP_Devotee said:
dadiOH, . . . I've been reading your posts here, and I appreciate your
taking the time to help me with my machine.

I have saved the link to Passmark, and I'm eager to see what I can
learn there. If nothing else, it will be fun, as I always like sites
like that.

Also, I've not overlooked your comments about my PSU. As I've
mentioned, I'm not wanting to do anything much with my present
machine because I'm ready to put together a new one. My main goal
here was to better understand what was going on with my old computer
so that I could plan well for the new one.

One other comment re your problem: in the HD Tune screen shoys you posted,
I note that your CPU utilization when checking one of the internal drives is
*very, very* high. You might want to find out why.
______________
In the way of a PSU, I've not yet picked one out, but I have
bookmarked a couple of excellent sites that do careful, measured
comparison testing of PSUs. If you are interested, these are the
best 2 I've found to date:

http://www.jonnyguru.com

http://www.hardocp.com

Thanks, I'll check them out
______________
I am going to leave this posting. I've learned a lot, but the posting
itself here on the web is giving me a headache. I've never actually
used Usenet (!), but I'm going to take the advice from Daave in his
earlier posting and make the jump. I'm HOPING to find this thread
again via Usenet, but I'm not positive I know how to do that!

An easy way is by using OutlookExpress as a reader...

1. Open OE

2. Click "Tools" then "Accounts"

3. Click "Add" then click "Mail"

4. Fill out the form. When you get to the Internet News Server page, enter
"news.microsoft.com" without the quotation marks as the server name. Do NOT
check the "This server requires me to log on" box.

Once you finish the wizard, OE will download a list of groups carried by the
server and the server name will appear in the same place as does OE's list
of folders such as "Inbox", "Sent", etc. If you left click on the server
name, you'll get a page with three buttons...
1. Synchronize Account
2. Newsgroups
3. Settings

Click on the "Newsgroup" button and you'll get a list of all groups carried
by that server. You can scroll through the list or enter a full or partial
group name in the search box. If you enter "xp.general" (no quotes) in the
search box, this groups name will be displayed. Click it and then click the
"Subscribe" button.

This group's name will now be displayed under the server's name in the OE
area where it lists folders. Clicking the group name will automagically
download posts and display them for your amusement and edification.
________________

A word about OE in general...

Many people knock OE. To each their own but for me OE works just fine as a
reader. I only follow 8-10 groups and it is entirely adequate. I've tried
numerous others, prefer OE. One *does* need to explore its use a bit - as
one does with any program - by reading the Help file and fiddling with the
options. If you use OE for mail - or even if you don't - that isn't an
onerous chore.


dadiOH
 
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dadiOH

dadiOH said:
An easy way is by using OutlookExpress as a reader...

1. Open OE

2. Click "Tools" then "Accounts"

3. Click "Add" then click "Mail"

No, no, no...

3. Click "Add" then click "*News*"



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dadiOH
____________________________

dadiOH's dandies v3.06...
....a help file of info about MP3s, recording from
LP/cassette and tips & tricks on this and that.
Get it at http://mysite.verizon.net/xico
 

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