Configuring traffic types for multiple networks

[Dicky]

Hi all.

I've got a wireless network at home connecting me to Broadband, all
operating fine, that is 2 PC's, XBox and PS2.

Now, between the PC's I have a direct Ethernet connection to be used
for transferring my photography development work, etc, all the big
files that would take ages over Wireless.

So, I want to ensure that I can choose, or predetermine, the traffic
to be sent\received across each of the network types. For example, if
I want to transfer filles to the other PC, that has to go via the
Ethernet, if I want to FTP or do any web work, that has to go via the
Wireless connection, etc.

Any guidance?

Thanks

Rich.

 

[Steve Winograd [MVP]]

Hi all.

I've got a wireless network at home connecting me to Broadband, all
operating fine, that is 2 PC's, XBox and PS2.

Now, between the PC's I have a direct Ethernet connection to be used
for transferring my photography development work, etc, all the big
files that would take ages over Wireless.

So, I want to ensure that I can choose, or predetermine, the traffic
to be sent\received across each of the network types. For example, if
I want to transfer filles to the other PC, that has to go via the
Ethernet, if I want to FTP or do any web work, that has to go via the
Wireless connection, etc.

Any guidance?

Thanks

Rich.

I have a similar situation in my home network: two PCs networked by
wired Ethernet and by FireWire (IEEE 1394). Since FireWire is much
faster, that's what I use for large file transfers. Here's how:

1. Assign static IP addresses of 10.0.0.1 and 10.0.0.2 to the FireWire
network connections. The Ethernet network connections get dynamic
192.168.x.x IP addresses from my broadband router.

2. Access the other computer by its FireWire IP address, not by its
computer name, when I want to transfer files. For example, typing
this line in the Start | Run box on the second computer will access
the first computer using FireWire:

\\10.0.0.1
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[Guest]

Steve, thanks for this - I've been trying to get firewire and lan working together for ages with various attempts at routing, bridging etc... such a simple answer in the end... thank you

----- Steve Winograd [MVP] wrote: ----

Hi all
operating fine, that is 2 PC's, XBox and PS2
for transferring my photography development work, etc, all the bi
files that would take ages over Wireless
to be sent\received across each of the network types. For example, i
I want to transfer filles to the other PC, that has to go via th
Ethernet, if I want to FTP or do any web work, that has to go via th
Wireless connection, etc

I have a similar situation in my home network: two PCs networked b
wired Ethernet and by FireWire (IEEE 1394). Since FireWire is muc
faster, that's what I use for large file transfers. Here's how

1. Assign static IP addresses of 10.0.0.1 and 10.0.0.2 to the FireWir
network connections. The Ethernet network connections get dynami
192.168.x.x IP addresses from my broadband router

2. Access the other computer by its FireWire IP address, not by it
computer name, when I want to transfer files. For example, typin
this line in the Start | Run box on the second computer will acces
the first computer using FireWire

\\10.0.0.
--
Best Wishes
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking

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[Steve Winograd [MVP]]

Steve, thanks for this - I've been trying to get firewire and lan working
together for ages with various attempts at routing, bridging etc... such
a simple answer in the end... thank you.

You're welcome, Russ. I'm glad that you were able to find my message
from a couple of months ago and that it helped you.
--
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[Eric Cross]

Thanks for sharing, Steve!

Do you have two network adapters installed on each machine or just one
network card? If I understand you setup correctly, you have two network
adapters since you have a Ethernet and Firewire connection. You have a
regular network adapter and a 1394 network adapter for both machines. I like
the setup you have and I might head that way in the future.

_______________
Eric

 

[Steve Winograd [MVP]]

Thanks for sharing, Steve!

Do you have two network adapters installed on each machine or just one
network card? If I understand you setup correctly, you have two network
adapters since you have a Ethernet and Firewire connection. You have a
regular network adapter and a 1394 network adapter for both machines. I like
the setup you have and I might head that way in the future.

Hi, Eric. Yes, you understand correctly. Each computer has a regular
network adapter and a 1394 network adapter, resulting in two
independent networks. I use a different IP subnet on each network.

I once installed 6 network adapters in an XP computer to see if it
could keep them all straight. It worked fine. Then, I used one of
them for an Internet connection, bridged the other 5, and shared the
Internet connection over the network bridge. That worked fine, too.
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[Eric Cross]

Wow, six network adapters? That is a lot and I don't think I'm going to ever
install six adapters. I do have some more questions though if you don't mind
me asking about your setup. How fast does your network get with the
firewire? The reason why I ask is because you say you use it for large file
transfer, and I hear it can get up to 400 Mbps which seems much faster than
Ethernet. Do you know?

________________
Eric

 

[Steve Winograd [MVP]]

Wow, six network adapters? That is a lot and I don't think I'm going to ever
install six adapters. I do have some more questions though if you don't mind
me asking about your setup. How fast does your network get with the
firewire? The reason why I ask is because you say you use it for large file
transfer, and I hear it can get up to 400 Mbps which seems much faster than
Ethernet. Do you know?

I'm happy to answer questions, Eric.

FireWire is rated at 400 Mbps. Fast Ethernet is rated at 100 Mbps.
Actual transfer rates are always slower than the rated speed.

I just did some large file copies between two XP computers on my
network and computed the transfer rates from the file size and elapsed
time. FireWire was 2-3 times as fast. The highest speeds I saw were:

FireWire: 195 Mb/sec
Fast Ethernet: 65 Mb/sec

What speed do you get for Fast Ethernet on your network?
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[Eric Cross]

That's a good question. How do you find out while you are transfering files?

I went into the Network Connections and right-clicked the LAN properties and
clicked "show icon in notification area when connected" and clicked Ok. Then
the Local Area Network Connection showed in the Taskbar. I thought this
would be it but apparently I'm either not doing something or doing it wrong.

_________________
Eric

 

[Steve Winograd [MVP]]

That's a good question. How do you find out while you are transfering files?

I went into the Network Connections and right-clicked the LAN properties and
clicked "show icon in notification area when connected" and clicked Ok. Then
the Local Area Network Connection showed in the Taskbar. I thought this
would be it but apparently I'm either not doing something or doing it wrong.

I find the size of the file (kilobytes), and I time the transfer with
a watch. I then compute the speed. Given that:

1 byte = 8 bits
1 megabit = 1024 kilobits

To convert from kilobytes per second to megabits per second, multiply
by 8 and divide by 1024:

Speed (megabits per second) =

(8 * File size (kilobytes)) / (Transfer Time (seconds) * 1024),

which equals:

File size (kilobytes) / (Transfer Time (seconds) * 128),

So, if it takes 3 seconds to copy a 70,000 kilobyte file, the speed
is:

70000 / (3 * 128) = 70000 / 384 = 182.3 megabits per second
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Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

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[Eric Cross]

I take there is no better way.

I took a file from a second computer and transfered it to my computer that I
was sitting at. The file was a 2.87 MB (3,014,784 bytes) but before I could
ever look at my watch, it had already had copied it to my computer without
me ever noticing the time. I guess you can say my network is fast, huh? =)

There is no better way of doing this?

_______________
Eric