Cmos Error

J

JoeSoapy

What does 'CMOS checksum error' mean. I had to press the F1 key
as required to get this computer started.
Motherboard is Gigabyte GA-K8V Ultra-939. One gig ram, AMD 64
CPU running WinXP Pro Sp2.
I am a bit scared to reboot in case it wont start again, I must
add I am a novice with computers.
Thx for any help given.
 
L

lomaca

JoeSoapy said:
What does 'CMOS checksum error' mean. I had to press the F1 key
as required to get this computer started.
Motherboard is Gigabyte GA-K8V Ultra-939. One gig ram, AMD 64
CPU running WinXP Pro Sp2.
I am a bit scared to reboot in case it wont start again, I must
add I am a novice with computers.
Thx for any help given.
Sometimes it just happens for no reason, (not often)
You can read more about it he
http://www.pcguide.com/ts/x/sys/booterrGBER08-c.html
Cheers
 
J

JoeSoapy

Thx I will change the battery.
: Change the CMOS battery.
:
: --
: Kenny Cargill
:
: "Cigarettes are killers that travel in packs."
:
: : > What does 'CMOS checksum error' mean. I had to press the F1
key
: > as required to get this computer started.
: > Motherboard is Gigabyte GA-K8V Ultra-939. One gig ram, AMD
64
: > CPU running WinXP Pro Sp2.
: > I am a bit scared to reboot in case it wont start again, I
must
: > add I am a novice with computers.
: > Thx for any help given.
: >
: >
:
:
 
B

BobN

Thx I will change the battery.
: Change the CMOS battery.
:
: --
: Kenny Cargill
:
: "Cigarettes are killers that travel in packs."
:
: :> What does 'CMOS checksum error' mean. I had to press the F1
key
:> as required to get this computer started.
:> Motherboard is Gigabyte GA-K8V Ultra-939. One gig ram, AMD
64
:> CPU running WinXP Pro Sp2.
:> I am a bit scared to reboot in case it wont start again, I
must
:> add I am a novice with computers.
:> Thx for any help given.
:>
:>
:
:

If you change the battery, don't forget to short the pins near the battery.
 
J

JoeSoapy

Why would I want to do that??
: On Mon, 15 May 2006 20:00:58 +0100, JoeSoapy wrote:
:
: > Thx I will change the battery.
: > : >: Change the CMOS battery.
: >:
: >: --
: >: Kenny Cargill
: >:
: >: "Cigarettes are killers that travel in packs."
: >:
: >: : >:> What does 'CMOS checksum error' mean. I had to press the
F1
: > key
: >:> as required to get this computer started.
: >:> Motherboard is Gigabyte GA-K8V Ultra-939. One gig ram, AMD
: > 64
: >:> CPU running WinXP Pro Sp2.
: >:> I am a bit scared to reboot in case it wont start again, I
: > must
: >:> add I am a novice with computers.
: >:> Thx for any help given.
: >:>
: >:>
: >:
: >:
:
: If you change the battery, don't forget to short the pins near
the battery.
 
J

JoeSoapy

I thought not, thank you for the reply.

: JoeSoapy wrote:
:
: > Why would I want to do that??
:
: > : If you change the battery, don't forget to short the pins
near
: > the battery.
:
: You wouldn't. You don't need to.
:
: Malke
: --
: Elephant Boy Computers
: www.elephantboycomputers.com
: "Don't Panic!"
: MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
 
B

BobN

If you change the battery, don't forget to short the pins near the battery.

Jumpering the pins sets the BIOS to default settings. If you boot without
jumpering the pins, you will get a CMOS checksum error unless you set the
the BIOS first to default settings anyhow. That is why the pins are there.
It is in your manual.
 
M

Malke

BobN said:
battery.

Jumpering the pins sets the BIOS to default settings. If you boot
without jumpering the pins, you will get a CMOS checksum error unless
you set the
the BIOS first to default settings anyhow. That is why the pins are
there. It is in your manual.

Removing the battery and installing a new one will do this. If it makes
you happy to move jumpers around and your motherboard supports it, by
all means do it. However, in all the years that I and other techs have
been changing out CMOS batteries, it has not been necessary. The error
you are seeing happens because you need to go into the BIOS and reset
the date, etc.

Malke
 
J

JoeSoapy

Hi I am starting to get confused here. Surely if I replace the
battery within seconds nothing will change. It was written that
the reason for the CMOS error was I need to replace the battery.
Why would I have to reset the BIOS???

: BobN wrote:
: > battery.
: >
: > Jumpering the pins sets the BIOS to default settings. If
you boot
: > without jumpering the pins, you will get a CMOS checksum
error unless
: > you set the
: > the BIOS first to default settings anyhow. That is why the
pins are
: > there. It is in your manual.
:
: Removing the battery and installing a new one will do this. If
it makes
: you happy to move jumpers around and your motherboard supports
it, by
: all means do it. However, in all the years that I and other
techs have
: been changing out CMOS batteries, it has not been necessary.
The error
: you are seeing happens because you need to go into the BIOS
and reset
: the date, etc.
:
: Malke
: --
: Elephant Boy Computers
: www.elephantboycomputers.com
: "Don't Panic!"
: MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
 
M

Malke

JoeSoapy said:
Hi I am starting to get confused here. Surely if I replace the
battery within seconds nothing will change. It was written that
the reason for the CMOS error was I need to replace the battery.
Why would I have to reset the BIOS???

Just replace your battery and don't worry about this. It really just
depends on your motherboard what will happen. If CMOS retains the
settings, fine. If it doesn't, fine. Just set the correct time and
date. Really, this is *not* something to make a big deal out of.

Malke
 
J

JohnO

JoeSoapy said:
Hi I am starting to get confused here. Surely if I replace the
battery within seconds nothing will change. It was written that
the reason for the CMOS error was I need to replace the battery.
Why would I have to reset the BIOS???

If you can get its manual, the procedure for replacing the battery is in
there. Most likely, you just replace the battery and restart. If you had any
custom settings in the BIOS, you can then reapply them. In almost all cases,
replacing the bettery resets the BIOS in seconds. No big deal.

You can always reset the BIOS later if necessary, but I bet a nickel it's
not.

-John O
 
B

BobN

If you can get its manual, the procedure for replacing the battery is in
there. Most likely, you just replace the battery and restart. If you had any
custom settings in the BIOS, you can then reapply them. In almost all cases,
replacing the bettery resets the BIOS in seconds. No big deal.

You can always reset the BIOS later if necessary, but I bet a nickel it's
not.

-John O

I quote from the Abit procedure for flashing the BIOS:

8. Switch off the power supply unit or pull the power cord. There is a
CMOS jumper near the battery. Change the jumper position from default 1-2
to 2-3 for one minute to discharge the CMOS data, and then put it back to
default 1-2. Switch on the power supply unit or put in the power cord.
Press the power on button to boot up the system. If it works, hit the
"Del" key to enter the BIOS setup page to do correct settings.

Do it the right way. Do it the Abit way. Every motherboard manufacturer
provides the identical instructions for flashing the BIOS.

Forget about "most likely" and "In almost all cases."

Go to the Gigabyte web site and download the instructions for flashing the
BIOS. They will be identical to Abit, Aopen, and Asus at least.
 
J

JoeSoapy

Ok folks that's it I will go for it. Thx to all for the help.

: On Tue, 16 May 2006 17:09:47 -0400, JohnO wrote:
:
: > : >> Hi I am starting to get confused here. Surely if I replace
the
: >> battery within seconds nothing will change. It was written
that
: >> the reason for the CMOS error was I need to replace the
battery.
: >> Why would I have to reset the BIOS???
: >>
: >
: > If you can get its manual, the procedure for replacing the
battery is in
: > there. Most likely, you just replace the battery and
restart. If you had any
: > custom settings in the BIOS, you can then reapply them. In
almost all cases,
: > replacing the bettery resets the BIOS in seconds. No big
deal.
: >
: > You can always reset the BIOS later if necessary, but I bet
a nickel it's
: > not.
: >
: > -John O
:
: I quote from the Abit procedure for flashing the BIOS:
:
: 8. Switch off the power supply unit or pull the power cord.
There is a
: CMOS jumper near the battery. Change the jumper position from
default 1-2
: to 2-3 for one minute to discharge the CMOS data, and then put
it back to
: default 1-2. Switch on the power supply unit or put in the
power cord.
: Press the power on button to boot up the system. If it works,
hit the
: "Del" key to enter the BIOS setup page to do correct settings.
:
: Do it the right way. Do it the Abit way. Every motherboard
manufacturer
: provides the identical instructions for flashing the BIOS.
:
: Forget about "most likely" and "In almost all cases."
:
: Go to the Gigabyte web site and download the instructions for
flashing the
: BIOS. They will be identical to Abit, Aopen, and Asus at
least.
 
J

JohnO

Every motherboard manufacturer
provides the identical instructions for flashing the BIOS.

Sorry, but there's a reason you can't use "every" and "identical" in this
context. It's because you'd be wrong. :) Sure, the instructions are often
the same for each variety of BIOS, but the chipset plays a role in this,
too. FWIW, the most recent Intel boards require no such playing with the
jumper. Thus, the language we used. Bottom line...read the manual for YOUR
motherboard. ...looks like Gigabyte mobos are different...

http://tw.giga-byte.com/Support/Motherboard/TechGuide_List.aspx

-John O
 
J

JoeSoapy

I followed BobN's advice and Flashed the BIOS, all is back to
normal again, it looks it was not the battery after all.

:> Every motherboard manufacturer
: > provides the identical instructions for flashing the BIOS.
:
: Sorry, but there's a reason you can't use "every" and
"identical" in this
: context. It's because you'd be wrong. :) Sure, the
instructions are often
: the same for each variety of BIOS, but the chipset plays a
role in this,
: too. FWIW, the most recent Intel boards require no such
playing with the
: jumper. Thus, the language we used. Bottom line...read the
manual for YOUR
: motherboard. ...looks like Gigabyte mobos are different...
:
:
http://tw.giga-byte.com/Support/Motherboard/TechGuide_List.aspx
:
: -John O
:
:
:
 

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