Clever cut & paste utility

[Mike Seddon]

KKopy - Neat free awarding winning tool which avoids the frustrating
scrolling off the window pain when trying to highlight text that you
want to cut and paste.

Whole sections of text can be copied or cut with a single click..

Really helpful if you are selectively taking information from
documents.

Download at www.kutchka.com/downloads/downloadkkopy.asp

Home site is www.kutchka.com

 

[MLC]

venerdì 23/gen/2004 _Mike Seddon_ ha scritto:

KKopy - Neat free awarding winning tool which avoids the frustrating
scrolling off the window pain when trying to highlight text that you
want to cut and paste.

Whole sections of text can be copied or cut with a single click..

Really helpful if you are selectively taking information from
documents.

IMHO, you should mention here that it works with Microsoft Word only.

 

[Mike Seddon]

Thanks Maria. I thought it did. Amazing how you can miss things in
something you have written yourself.

It is very clear on the download page though.
KKopy - the FREE smart cut & paste tool from Kutchka.

Download it for free at
http://www.kutchka.com/downloads/DownloadKKopy.asp

 

[J. Yazel]

venerdì 23/gen/2004 _Mike Seddon_ ha scritto:


IMHO, you should mention here that it works with Microsoft Word only.

=========================

Another unusual requirement. You apparently cannot install it
unless you send them your e-mail address "so they can send you
the install instructions".

Why aren't the install instructions in the package itself?

Jack

 

[bOB]

(e-mail address removed) (Mike Seddon):

KKopy - Neat free awarding winning tool which avoids the frustrating
scrolling off the window pain when trying to highlight text that you
want to cut and paste.

Someone else:

it works with Microsoft Word only.

A 2 Mb download is a bit much for such a simple and limited utility.
It's bloatware!

bOB

 

[John Fitzsimons]

Why aren't the install instructions in the package itself?

So that they can harvest address' for spamming people ?

 

[John Hood]

So that they can harvest address' for spamming people ?

Use ArsClip. No install, works anywhere.

John Hood E-mail: (e-mail address removed) Website: John's Best of Freeware:
http://home.wi.rr.com/johnhood/freeware/

 

[Mike Seddon]

We don't do spam. (I personally get 30+ emails a day which are pure
spam - I really don't want anything enlarged!)

We would like the email addresses of people who download this product
to build up our database for prospective customers, in particular to
be able to ontact them about upgrades or new products. Everyone who
resigisters with our product is immediately given the option to be
taken off our email list. We do not and will not contact them again if
they choose to be taken off.

We launched KKopy in November. There have been no upgrades or new
products and therefore we have sent no one an email.

So, honestly, this is not a spam list we are building.

Cheers,

Mike
KKopy - the FREE smart cut & paste tool from Kutchka.

Download it for free at
http://www.kutchka.com/downloads/DownloadKKopy.asp

 

[John Fitzsimons]

We would like the email addresses of people who download this product
to build up our database for prospective customers, in particular to
be able to ontact them about upgrades or new products. Everyone who
resigisters with our product is immediately given the option to be
taken off our email list. We do not and will not contact them again if
they choose to be taken off.

That's what all spammers say. "Send us an email to get off our list".

We launched KKopy in November. There have been no upgrades or new
products and therefore we have sent no one an email.

So, honestly, this is not a spam list we are building.

So, honestly, why should we believe you ?

Reputable web sites give people the option to go on/not go on mailing
lists. No need to go on then unsubscribe.

My advice to everyone here ? Stay well clear of this site. Thanks to
Jack Yazel for bringing this to our attention.

Regards, John.

 

[Mike Seddon]

John,

Your cynicism of spammers is probably well justified. It is a shame
that these people are ruining the internet experience for everyone and
also making life extremely hard for honest business like ourselves.

You deserve a fuller and franker explanation than the "please believe"
me message I posted originally.

You say that my claim that we will remove anyone from our email list
is what all spammers say. You are, of course, quite correct. What can
I say? An innocent man in court will say not guilty but will he be
believed? Why should he. The guilty will generally say they are
innocent as well.

Perhaps if I explain the main concept behind KKopy, this might help
answer some of the suspicions you have.

Kutchka has been in business since 2001 and our software development
was mainly in a specialised field (MindMapping software). Earlier this
year we came up with a new idea around the Microsoft Office arena. We
suspected that download volumes could be huge due to the large
potential market. So we decided to build an infrastructure capably of
supporting this. Before launching this product, we wanted to be sure
this infrastructure worked (I'm not just talking about downloads. I'm
also referring to licensing, support processes and other back office
functions).

Obviously we have tested it, but there is nothing like real life
testing. So we developed a free piece of software (KKopy) which has
two objectives:
1) To give real value to those who download it because we would like
them to come back for the future product.
2) Test our infrastructure with real life usage.

So far, it has been very successful. We have had some very good
feedback on the product and easy of installation etc. We have also
discovered potential issues which we can now avoid with the new
product (for example: the default installation paths appear to be
different in some countries. Holland for one it would appear).

John, I hope this has convinced you we are not spammers and are not
collecting email addresses for any spam purposes. I wonder if any of
the people from this group who have downloaded and provided their
email addresses to Kutchka would be kind enough to post a follow
message here to confirm they have not been spammed by us.

Thanks,

Mike

KKopy - the FREE smart cut & paste tool from Kutchka.

Download it for free at
http://www.kutchka.com/downloads/DownloadKKopy.asp

 

[John Fitzsimons]

John,

Unless people have kept previous posts in this thread they would have
no idea who you are talking about. You appear to be using ;

X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243

which should "out of the box" give an attribution line of ;

On Tue, 27 Jan 2004 10:59:01 +1100, John Fitzsimons

Why doesn't yours ? My initial thought in such a situation is that the
poster is incompetent and has misconfigured his/her newsreader.

If someone cannot properly configure a newsreader then I doubt that
they would be able to code anything worthwhile. You might consider
that wrong/unfair but IMO "first impressions" count. Both in business
and in private life.

At the very least your lack of an attribution line and any exact
quoting of what I said suggests an attempt to misrepresent the
original poster(s) when/if you see fit to do so.

Your cynicism of spammers is probably well justified. It is a shame
that these people are ruining the internet experience for everyone and
also making life extremely hard for honest business like ourselves.

Sorry, my definition of "honest" isn't the same as yours. My
definition doesn't include forcing people to join mailing lists.

You deserve a fuller and franker explanation than the "please believe"
me message I posted originally.

A "fuller and franker explanation" ? Or a new "sales pitch" ?

You say that my claim that we will remove anyone from our email list
is what all spammers say. You are, of course, quite correct. What can
I say?

That you understand the stupidity of your stance and will stop it
immediately ?

An innocent man in court will say not guilty but will he be
believed? Why should he. The guilty will generally say they are
innocent as well.

Yep.

John, I hope this has convinced you we are not spammers and are not
collecting email addresses for any spam purposes.

Hasn't convinced me at all. Why should your repeating a sales pitch do
that ? If you aren't going to spam people then why do you need their
email address ? The answer is of course that if you don't intend
spamming people you don't need their address.

I wonder if any of
the people from this group who have downloaded and provided their
email addresses to Kutchka would be kind enough to post a follow
message here to confirm they have not been spammed by us.

A fairly obvious attempt at getting yourself more publicity. Just
because you haven't spammed people "yet" it doesn't follow you don't
intend to.

Thanks,

KKopy - the FREE smart cut & paste tool from Kutchka.

It isn't free. It is "registerware". People apparently cannot
download/run it without registering with you.

Download it for free at

Rather pointless downloading it if one doesn't have the required
installation instructions.

Added to that it is a pointless program to have if one doesn't have
"Word" installed. Ignoring this fact clearly points to your apparent
intention to mislead people.

< snip further self promotion link >

I could also add that the site looks pretty awefull in my Firebird
browser. Not that I particularly intend visiting again. Though I am
thinking of using your site as a good example to others of how
*not* to go about doing things.

Regards, John.

 

[Mike Seddon]

OK John.
Now I just suggest you get therapy fast
KKopy - the FREE smart cut & paste tool from Kutchka.

Download it for free at
http://www.kutchka.com/downloads/DownloadKKopy.asp

 

[Derald]

OK John.
Now I just suggest you get therapy fast

Well, put me in that line at the mental health facility, too.
Registerware is always registerware and never, ever is free. Your
spammers' doubletalk is pure bullshit. At first, I thought you to be
merely stupid but, as usual, I just was way-y-y too generous. Go away,
list-maker, until the software you're touting really is free; or, at the
very least, refrain from bullshitting us about the purity of your
motives. I'm sure that I'm not the only reader here who has been
bludgeoned by so-called "update notices", which is exactly what you have
told us here is you intention, too. Just because you issue a warning
doesn't keep it from being spammy, totally unwarranted nattering, The
basic problem, as I see it, is that you seem to suffer from the Curse of
the Dumb-Ass: That is to say, you perceive yourself as being of at least
"average" intellect, therefore, assuming the rest of us to be stupid,
too. You see, your assertion that your incessant "update" notices are
not "spam" doesn't prevent them from _being_ spam. Sorry, but no matter
how you try to perfume it, the shit still stinks. Get a job.

 

[BillR]

OK John.
Now I just suggest you get therapy fast
KKopy - the FREE smart cut & paste tool from Kutchka.

Download it for free at
http://www.kutchka.com/downloads/DownloadKKopy.asp

Mike -- John F. is infamous for abrasively foisting an absolutist
position on the rest of us while making semi-relevant arguments.
Fortunately he also contributes substantively as well.

John -- So use a disposable address or one dedicated to signups. But
then you don't need it anyway: it only works with MS Word. Besides,
the average ill-intentioned spammer would be unlikely to answer your
initial attack politely with a good explanation. He would be too busy
spamming elsewhere. If nothing else, Mike is more creative than the
average spammer.

Others -- I downloaded this software months ago. I don't remember
receiving a single message directly from the author's site in the
interim. KKopy has also been referenced by reputable sites or
newsletters (IIRC). As John F. would immediately note, that doesn't
mean my address was not provided elsewhere. I certainly get more than
enough spam everyday on that address.

As always, test any download yourself.

BillR

 

[John Fitzsimons]

OK John.
Now I just suggest you get therapy fast
KKopy - the FREE smart cut & paste tool from Kutchka.

Correction.

KKopy - the registerware cut & paste tool from Kutchka. Only of use to
anyone using MS Word.

 

[Richard Steinfeld]

Look guys.
It can be all well and good to use freeware. After all, during
the past 20 years, I can safely say that at least half of the
software I've purchased has been dissappointing in some way,
sometimes major. For example, the utility suite that I bought has
been crumbling slowly. It is "acquireware," that is, it was sold
to an outfit that has no interest in supporting it, just using
the name to offer a similar program. And also, the new outfit if
one of those that feels that support is beneath their dignity.

Let's face it: developing a program is a lot of work, especially
if it is done well. Programs that interact nicely with the end
user, programs that "handle" intuitively, are pretty rare at any
price. Also, the large, fattened software corporations get
carried away and typically offer lousy support, and often no
support whatsoever (covering up what's really happening with the
fig leaf of FAQs and worthless email "support" if you are
actually lucky to get any reply). So, the guy has been doing all
the development at his own expense, doing all the debugging at
his own expense (considerable work!!!). He's giving you the fruit
of his labors: for chrissake: cut the guy some slack!!! If he
wants to put you on his mailing list, let him do it, or ask him
to opt you out. If he runs a web site, always remember that he's
paying for that web site: he's paying so that he can give you his
software for nothing!

When it comes to software (and this includes the work of
musicians, too), some people think that they have a god-given
entitlement to take the work of the creators without
compensation. Did it ever occur to such folks that a rock
musician, for example, has invested thousands of dollars in their
equipment: the equipment that you're enjoying? Or perhaps many
thousands in musical training? And that the musicians should be
compensated for their labors just as if they were plumbers or
auto mechanics?

Well-behaved, free software is a gift. When a programmer puts out
a truly excellent program, I feel that such a person should be
supported by the community and encouraged. This is especially
important when it comes to the small companies and lone code
cobblers. I still very much miss XyWrite (retail package) and
PC-Write (shareware): the two very best word processors ever
conjured up. Nothing today comes remotely close to the facile
racing-car handling of XyWrite, the only large-document program
ever made that was truly a writer's tool. Having used both of
these programs, I've had a taste of what great software can do.
XyWrite still has a cult following; some writers actually still
use it: they won't let go -- they're not crazy, either.

My point is that if Mike has delivered to us a wonderful piece of
software, software that fills an urgent need, software that
humanizes the klutzy Word, I, for one, really want to know about
what else he puts out, even if I have to pay him for it. So what?

Yeah, I know, this forum is all about true freeware. None of us
like nagware, bloatware, adware, abuseware, foistware, trickware,
etc. I think, though, that very few of us will object to
donationware. A guy's gotta eat, for goddssake. And if the
programmer's great, I really want to be kept informed about what
he's turning out. I may just want to leap out there and buy it
right away. That's my point: having used truly great software
makes me very enthusiastic about wanting more of it. If it is
donationware, I'll send the guy money, too, because I want to.

Freeware addiction is not an addiction to acquisition for some of
us. It is the excitement of exploration: what will I discover
today? Freeware gives us the possibility to try things out, lots
of things, programs to solve those nagging problems, programs to
help us to things that we hadn't thought about. And sometimes, to
give us an "aha" moment. For me, it can even be a wonderful
experience just to admire the brilliance of what somebody else
crafted so well. But we should never forget that such software
did not float down from the sky, like the flag of Denmark.

Funny thing, Mike: I'm trying out Open Office because I'll be
damned if I'll keep buying upgrade after upgrade from MS with
buggy features that I don't need or want. I'm fed up with their
arrogance. I'm fed up with having this monopoly yanking my chain.

So, Mike, I won't be using your Word tool, but I want to
encourage you nonetheless. Onward!

Richard