clean install XP Pro on a Sony Vaio laptop

[Noot]

Hithere,

I own a Sony Vaio S3 laptop with XP Pro pre-installed. Due to more and more
hick-ups I want to do a clean install.
There is a Sony recovery utility, but this lacks recent updates, and also
installs older drivers, and a lot of software and utilities I can very well
do without.

I happen to have access to a XP-Pro CD with slipstreamed updates and
patches. This cd however doesn't come from a store ;-)
Yet I figure I payed for the XP license key on the bottom of my laptop, not
for a fysical CD.
Is there a way to make a clean install using this not-so-official CD with my
Vaio license?

t.i.a. Noot

 

[Carey Frisch [MVP]]

No. Your Sony Vaio OEM license is only valid with the
Sony Recovery CD. It will not work or activate when used
with any other Windows XP installation CD.

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows - Shell/User
Microsoft Community Newsgroups
news://msnews.microsoft.com/

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:

| Hithere,
|
| I own a Sony Vaio S3 laptop with XP Pro pre-installed. Due to more and more
| hick-ups I want to do a clean install.
| There is a Sony recovery utility, but this lacks recent updates, and also
| installs older drivers, and a lot of software and utilities I can very well
| do without.
|
| I happen to have access to a XP-Pro CD with slipstreamed updates and
| patches. This cd however doesn't come from a store ;-)
| Yet I figure I payed for the XP license key on the bottom of my laptop, not
| for a fysical CD.
| Is there a way to make a clean install using this not-so-official CD with my
| Vaio license?
|
| t.i.a. Noot

 

[relic]

Hithere,

I own a Sony Vaio S3 laptop with XP Pro pre-installed. Due to more
and more hick-ups I want to do a clean install.
There is a Sony recovery utility, but this lacks recent updates, and
also installs older drivers, and a lot of software and utilities I
can very well do without.

I happen to have access to a XP-Pro CD with slipstreamed updates and
patches. This cd however doesn't come from a store ;-)
Yet I figure I payed for the XP license key on the bottom of my
laptop, not for a fysical CD.
Is there a way to make a clean install using this not-so-official CD
with my Vaio license?

If it is an OEM Version of XP Pro, your key will work. A Retail version
won't work with SONY's OEM key.

 

[Noot]

If it is an OEM Version of XP Pro, your key will work. A Retail version
won't work with SONY's OEM key.

So if I would be able to download a oem version of XP Pro, and would install
it (only) on my Sony laptop, there would me no problem? (technical or legal)

 

[Carey Frisch [MVP]]

You cannot "download" an OEM version of Windows XP.
You must purchase it! There is no guarantee that your Sony
OEM Product Key will enable you to activate the installation
if you use a different Windows XP installation CD.

Examples:

Microsoft Windows XP HOME Edition With Service Pack 2 - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16837102151

Microsoft Windows XP Professional With Service Pack 2 - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16837102153

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows - Shell/User
Microsoft Community Newsgroups
news://msnews.microsoft.com/

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| So if I would be able to download a oem version of XP Pro, and would install
| it (only) on my Sony laptop, there would me no problem? (technical or legal)

 

[relic]

So if I would be able to download a oem version of XP Pro, and would
install it (only) on my Sony laptop, there would me no problem?
(technical or legal)

Correct. You can buy an OEM Pro CD without a Key for $16.99
http://www.pricegrabber.com/user_sales_getprod.php?masterid=477480&lot_id=1507202

 

[Text]

I agree - it's nice to have a clean install of Windows every once in a
while. And it would be nice to have SP2 already slip-stream. I would not use
a pirated copy of Windows. It might have any manner of malware 'slipped'
into it. Anyway, from your post your plan doesn't seem legitimate.

Here's something to note:

The retail upgrade version of Windows XP can be used to do a clean install
from scratch. If you do use one to install from scratch you will need
something for "verification". Let me explain:

When clean installing using an upgrade version, at some point the
installation routine will ask you to pop out the XP Pro SP2 upgrd CD-ROM and
pop in an older version of Windows's CD-ROM [e.g. a Windows 98 CD-ROM or a
Windows 2000 Professinal CD-ROM] for "verification" i.e. that you are
qualified to use the WinXP Pro SP2 upgrd CD-ROM. So you should obtain one
from a friend if you do not have an old one around. After verifiying the
installation will move on and when necessary it will ask you to pop the
WinXP Pro upgrade CD-ROM back in.

Otherwise, the install is exactly the same as if you used a full version to
do the clean installation.

Full clean installs can be done with:

OEM Windows XP
-- typically $145.00 USD [must buy with piece of hardware e.g. $10 floppy
drive]
- non transferable licence

Retail Upgrade Windows XP
-- typically $199.00 USD [might need 'verification' media e.g. Windows 98
CD-ROM to demonstrate eligibility]
- transferable licence

Retail FULL Windows XP
-- typically $299.00 USD
- transferable licence

MSDN Windows XP as part of MSDN Subscription [Operating Systems]
-- typically $700.00 USD
- special licence

OEM and Retail Upgrade are the most cost efficient for an individual who
needs only one operating system on one computer. OEM is cool. If you want to
get a Retail upgrade version instead [if you are at all eligible] go for it.

If you install pirated, you will always doubt, wonder if there is a
backdoor, have problems with Windows update, and will feel like a thief. Get
a good copy, you will feel better about it in more ways than one.

 

[Guest]

It is illegal to sell any version of Windows XP without
the Product Key and all licensing documentation.
Please do not offer advice that is not in the best interest
of the OP.

 

[Text]

I don't know. If the price is too good to be true it's probably because it
is. Here's one review:

"Misrepresented; not complete, no product key. Also, was only for Dell
computer. I sent an e-mail to him; yahoo rejected it. I have stopped
payt;ment the CD-s are still sealed. I will return them at his expense only.
Rip Off!"

 

[Noot]

It is illegal to sell any version of Windows XP without
the Product Key and all licensing documentation.
Please do not offer advice that is not in the best interest
of the OP.

Don't worry, I don't intend to spend one penny on this 'project'. When I
bought my laptop I already payed for my XP Pro license. I can not see who I
would be steeling from if I download an oem version, and use my legally
owned license-key.

Noot

 

[Noot]

| So if I would be able to download a oem version of XP Pro, and would
install
| it (only) on my Sony laptop, there would me no problem? (technical or
legal)

You cannot "download" an OEM version of Windows XP.
You must purchase it!

Of course I can, I am already doing it.
I 'must' not purchase anything.

 

[Noot]

I agree - it's nice to have a clean install of Windows every once in a
while. And it would be nice to have SP2 already slip-stream. I would not
use
a pirated copy of Windows. It might have any manner of malware 'slipped'
into it. Anyway, from your post your plan doesn't seem legitimate.

Here's something to note:

The retail upgrade version of Windows XP can be used to do a clean install
from scratch. If you do use one to install from scratch you will need
something for "verification". Let me explain:

When clean installing using an upgrade version, at some point the
installation routine will ask you to pop out the XP Pro SP2 upgrd CD-ROM
and
pop in an older version of Windows's CD-ROM [e.g. a Windows 98 CD-ROM or a
Windows 2000 Professinal CD-ROM] for "verification" i.e. that you are
qualified to use the WinXP Pro SP2 upgrd CD-ROM. So you should obtain one
from a friend if you do not have an old one around. After verifiying the
installation will move on and when necessary it will ask you to pop the
WinXP Pro upgrade CD-ROM back in.

Otherwise, the install is exactly the same as if you used a full version
to
do the clean installation.

Full clean installs can be done with:

OEM Windows XP
-- typically $145.00 USD [must buy with piece of hardware e.g. $10 floppy
drive]
- non transferable licence

Retail Upgrade Windows XP
-- typically $199.00 USD [might need 'verification' media e.g. Windows 98
CD-ROM to demonstrate eligibility]
- transferable licence

Retail FULL Windows XP
-- typically $299.00 USD
- transferable licence

MSDN Windows XP as part of MSDN Subscription [Operating Systems]
-- typically $700.00 USD
- special licence

OEM and Retail Upgrade are the most cost efficient for an individual who
needs only one operating system on one computer. OEM is cool. If you want
to
get a Retail upgrade version instead [if you are at all eligible] go for
it.

If you install pirated, you will always doubt, wonder if there is a
backdoor, have problems with Windows update, and will feel like a thief.
Get
a good copy, you will feel better about it in more ways than one.

Thanks for your good advices. I will take them into account.
However at this moment I have no intensions to spend any money on this
project, since I have already payed for the XP Pro license on my laptop.

 

[Guest]

I see you neglected to even read the complaints
lodged against the bogus seller of this CD! They
are there on the web page you referenced!

Examples:

"Its for DELL machine only......."

"I installed on Dell machine. Now an Icon pops up says I need to activate
the software or it will stop working in 30 days. Activate over net wants COA.
What do I do?"

"No , this is for DELL machine only and key code not included"

And The Big Lie:

"You will receive Microsoft Windows XP Professional Full version DELL CD
Works On All PCs Fully Updates Online"

STAY AWAY FROM THIS BOGUS SELLER!

 

[Carey Frisch [MVP]]

You'll be back in the newsgroup soon asking why
your Sony Product Key is not valid with the CD
you intend to fraudulently download.

As I mentioned before, your Sony Product Key
is only valid with the Sony recovery CD...period.

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows - Shell/User
Microsoft Community Newsgroups
news://msnews.microsoft.com/

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| Don't worry, I don't intend to spend one penny on this 'project'. When I
| bought my laptop I already payed for my XP Pro license. I can not see who I
| would be steeling from if I download an oem version, and use my legally
| owned license-key.
|
| Noot

 

[kurttrail]

You'll be back in the newsgroup soon asking why
your Sony Product Key is not valid with the CD
you intend to fraudulently download.

As I mentioned before, your Sony Product Key
is only valid with the Sony recovery CD...period.

Of course Carey's never tried it, so he really doesn't know what will
happen.

Many techs use generic OEM CDs to repair/reinstall XP on people's
computers using the PK that came with the computer.

--
Peace!
Kurt
Self-anointed Moderator
microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea
http://microscum.com/mscommunity
"Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron!
"Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei"

 

[relic]

I don't know. If the price is too good to be true it's probably
because it is. Here's one review:

"Misrepresented; not complete, no product key. Also, was only for Dell
computer. I sent an e-mail to him; yahoo rejected it. I have stopped
payt;ment the CD-s are still sealed. I will return them at his
expense only. Rip Off!"

Idiot. The site says "without a Key" (so did I) - it plainly states "DELL
Branded" - and they do work on any PC.

 

[Text]

It's not *that*clear. The title says: "Windows XP Professional (Full
Product)" The finer print mentions it is a Dell CD-ROM.

 

[Guest]

Incorrect! What the seller is offering is a "Dell Reinstallation CD"
which will only work on a Dell computer, not a SONY computer.
The Dell Reinstallation CD will not work on any non-Dell PC since
it has a "System Locked Pre-installation," or SLP which prevents
installation on a non-Dell PC.

 

[Steve N.]

Of course Carey's never tried it, so he really doesn't know what will
happen.

Many techs use generic OEM CDs to repair/reinstall XP on people's
computers using the PK that came with the computer.

Yup. I've done is scores of times and have never had it fail.

Steve

 

[John Holmes]

Text blabbered in alt.comp.os.windows-xp:

I agree - it's nice to have a clean install of Windows every once in a
while.

You are a ****ing nitwit then. I only do a clean install when I buy myself
a faster, better box. (which, BTW, isn't even neccesary when I put in the
old HD) The box I'm working on right now, is up for more then 2 years
without any problem.