clean install of xp pro

[Guest]

my current OS (win 98SE) seeems to be corrupted so i've purchased an OEM
full install of XP Pro. My question is: should I format the C: drive and
wipe out my 98 before I attempt to run the XP disc or will the XP disc format
the drive and erase
the 98 OS?

If it is possible to do it either way I would prefer to format the drive and
erase the old OS so that I don't have to worry about any traces of it (and
it's corrupted files)
possibly screwing up my new XP.

If i format the drive first is there any special things I'll need to do to
install the XP onto and totally clean hard drive?

 

[Jim Macklin]

The OEM full install will only work on a clean drive. That
is because OEM is intended for new computers/hard drives.
You could have purchased a retail upgrade CD for about the
same price. If you have not opened the package you might be
able to exchange it. But that is up to the dealer from whom
you bought it.

If you do need to use the OEM CD, backup all the data you
want to save. Then make an emergency boot floppy (you
probably have one already) and make sure FDISK is on the
floppy. Use FDISK to delete the current partition or just
use the format command to clear the files from C:
If you have more than one partition, you can leave those
partitions in place, the OEM install will only look at the
C: drive (partition).


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| my current OS (win 98SE) seeems to be corrupted so i've
purchased an OEM
| full install of XP Pro. My question is: should I format
the C: drive and
| wipe out my 98 before I attempt to run the XP disc or will
the XP disc format
| the drive and erase
| the 98 OS?
|
| If it is possible to do it either way I would prefer to
format the drive and
| erase the old OS so that I don't have to worry about any
traces of it (and
| it's corrupted files)
| possibly screwing up my new XP.
|
| If i format the drive first is there any special things
I'll need to do to
| install the XP onto and totally clean hard drive?

 

[Carey Frisch [MVP]]

The Windows XP CD is bootable and contains all the tools necessary
to partition and format your drive. Follow this procedure and allow
Windows XP to partition and format your drive:

NOTE: It would be best to physically disconnect all your peripheral hardware
devices, except the monitor, mouse and keyboard, before installing XP.

NOTE: If you have an internal Zip Drive installed, physically disconnect the
EIDE and power cable to it before proceeding, otherwise your main
hard drive may not be assigned the customary C: drive letter.
After installing Windows XP, you may then reconnect it.

1. Open your BIOS and set your "CD Drive as the first bootable device".

===> Accessing Motherboard BIOS
===> http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/bios_manufacturer.htm

2. Insert your Windows XP CD in the CD Drive and reboot your computer.

3. You'll see a message to boot to the CD....follow the instructions.

4. The setup menu will appear and you should elect to delete all the existing
Windows partitions, then create a new partition, then format the primary
partition (preferably NTFS) and proceed to install Windows XP.

5. Clean Install Windows XP
http://michaelstevenstech.com/cleanxpinstall.html

[Courtesy of Michael Stevens, MS-MVP]

6. ==> Immediately after installing Windows XP, turn on XP's Firewall.
==> http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/protect/default.aspx

7. After Windows XP is installed, visit the Windows Update website
and download the available "Critical Updates".

8. After installing the critical updates, be sure and visit the support website
of the manufacturer of the computer to download and install any
available Windows XP compatible drivers, such as video adapter
and audio drivers.

9. If you happen to run into any installation difficulties, use the following resources:

How to Troubleshoot Windows XP Problems During Installation
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;310064

Troubleshooting Windows XP Setup
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_setup.htm

[Courtesy of MS-MVP Kelly Theriot]

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Windows XP - Shell/User
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| my current OS (win 98SE) seeems to be corrupted so i've purchased an OEM
| full install of XP Pro. My question is: should I format the C: drive and
| wipe out my 98 before I attempt to run the XP disc or will the XP disc format
| the drive and erase
| the 98 OS?
|
| If it is possible to do it either way I would prefer to format the drive and
| erase the old OS so that I don't have to worry about any traces of it (and
| it's corrupted files)
| possibly screwing up my new XP.
|
| If i format the drive first is there any special things I'll need to do to
| install the XP onto and totally clean hard drive?

 

[Bruce Chambers]

my current OS (win 98SE) seeems to be corrupted so i've purchased an OEM
full install of XP Pro. My question is: should I format the C: drive and
wipe out my 98 before I attempt to run the XP disc or will the XP disc format
the drive and erase
the 98 OS?

If it is possible to do it either way I would prefer to format the drive and
erase the old OS so that I don't have to worry about any traces of it (and
it's corrupted files)
possibly screwing up my new XP.

If i format the drive first is there any special things I'll need to do to
install the XP onto and totally clean hard drive?

Simply boot from the WinXP installation CD. You'll be offered the
opportunity to delete, create, and format partitions as part of the
installation process. (You may need to re-arrange the order of boot
devices in the PC's BIOS to boot from the CD.)

HOW TO Install Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;en-us;316941

http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/cleanxpinstall.html

http://www.webtree.ca/windowsxp/clean_install.htm

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[Jim Macklin]

He bought an OEM CD, won't do all that.


message | squire wrote:
| > my current OS (win 98SE) seeems to be corrupted so i've
purchased an OEM
| > full install of XP Pro. My question is: should I format
the C: drive and
| > wipe out my 98 before I attempt to run the XP disc or
will the XP disc format
| > the drive and erase
| > the 98 OS?
| >
| > If it is possible to do it either way I would prefer to
format the drive and
| > erase the old OS so that I don't have to worry about any
traces of it (and
| > it's corrupted files)
| > possibly screwing up my new XP.
| >
| > If i format the drive first is there any special things
I'll need to do to
| > install the XP onto and totally clean hard drive?
|
|
| Simply boot from the WinXP installation CD. You'll be
offered the
| opportunity to delete, create, and format partitions as
part of the
| installation process. (You may need to re-arrange the
order of boot
| devices in the PC's BIOS to boot from the CD.)
|
| HOW TO Install Windows XP
|
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;en-us;316941
|
| http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/cleanxpinstall.html
|
| http://www.webtree.ca/windowsxp/clean_install.htm
|
| --
|
| Bruce Chambers
|
| Help us help you:
|
|
|
| You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever
count on having
| both at once. - RAH

 

[michaelxp]

Jim is 100% right!

Squire's OEM CD was not desgned to delete, create, and format
partitions.

Michael Huddleston
http://www.xpmaximized.com

 

[Colin Barnhorst]

He will get a message that his copy of Windows is only for installation on a
new computer.

 

[Bruce Chambers]

Jim is 100% right!

Squire's OEM CD was not desgned to delete, create, and format
partitions.

Every generic OEM CD I've yet to use can do so. What specificly
branded OEM CDs can't?

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[Bruce Chambers]

He bought an OEM CD, won't do all that.

I've yet to encounter a generic OEM CD that doesn't behave exactly like
a retail CD, in all respects. Only if the OP had purchased an OEM
Recovery CD would he have limited options.


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[Jim Macklin]

If I take my OEM Microsoft labeled CD and try to do an
upgrade it won't work. If I use FDisk to clean the C: drive
or just Format the C: drive the OEM will install and it does
have the tools to THEN do all the same tasks as a retail CD,
but I've never tried to use an OEM to do a clean install on
a drive that has Windows already installed.

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But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome.


message | Jim Macklin wrote:
| > He bought an OEM CD, won't do all that.
| >
| >
|
| I've yet to encounter a generic OEM CD that doesn't behave
exactly like
| a retail CD, in all respects. Only if the OP had
purchased an OEM
| Recovery CD would he have limited options.
|
|
| --
|
| Bruce Chambers
|
| Help us help you:
|
|
|
| You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever
count on having
| both at once. - RAH

 

[Colin Barnhorst]

My experience is that an OEM installer will not proceed if Windows is
already installed.

 

[Jim Macklin]

That's what I thought, that's why I said either FDISK or
format using a floppy, then use the OEM on the "clean"
drive.


message | My experience is that an OEM installer will not proceed if
Windows is
| already installed.
|
| --
| Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]
| (Reply to the group only unless otherwise requested)
in message
| | > If I take my OEM Microsoft labeled CD and try to do an
| > upgrade it won't work. If I use FDisk to clean the C:
drive
| > or just Format the C: drive the OEM will install and it
does
| > have the tools to THEN do all the same tasks as a retail
CD,
| > but I've never tried to use an OEM to do a clean install
on
| > a drive that has Windows already installed.
| >
| > --
| > The people think the Constitution protects their rights;
| > But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome.
| >
| >
| > message | > | Jim Macklin wrote:
| > | > He bought an OEM CD, won't do all that.
| > | >
| > | >
| > |
| > | I've yet to encounter a generic OEM CD that doesn't
behave
| > exactly like
| > | a retail CD, in all respects. Only if the OP had
| > purchased an OEM
| > | Recovery CD would he have limited options.
| > |
| > |
| > | --
| > |
| > | Bruce Chambers
| > |
| > | Help us help you:
| > |
| > |
| > |
| > | You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't
ever
| > count on having
| > | both at once. - RAH
| >
| >
|
|

 

[Colin Barnhorst]

If you need a dos diskette with fdisk on it, you can download one from
bootdisk.com. I use the Win98 bootdisk. You may only need to fdisk. The
OEM cd will then detect a blank drive (to the extent there will be no
Windows) and should run OK from there. Allow the full ntfs format, not the
quick format.

--
Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]
(Reply to the group only unless otherwise requested)

My experience is that an OEM installer will not proceed if Windows is
already installed.

--
Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]
(Reply to the group only unless otherwise requested)

If I take my OEM Microsoft labeled CD and try to do an
upgrade it won't work. If I use FDisk to clean the C: drive
or just Format the C: drive the OEM will install and it does
have the tools to THEN do all the same tasks as a retail CD,
but I've never tried to use an OEM to do a clean install on
a drive that has Windows already installed.

--
The people think the Constitution protects their rights;
But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome.


message | Jim Macklin wrote:
| > He bought an OEM CD, won't do all that.
| >
| >
|
| I've yet to encounter a generic OEM CD that doesn't behave
exactly like
| a retail CD, in all respects. Only if the OP had
purchased an OEM
| Recovery CD would he have limited options.
|
|
| --
|
| Bruce Chambers
|
| Help us help you:
|
|
|
| You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever
count on having
| both at once. - RAH

 

[Colin Barnhorst]

I think fdisk is sufficient. The OEM cd looks for a Windows installation
and once it does not find one I think he will be OK.

 

[Colin Barnhorst]

Further note: Download the bootdisk file to your desktop. Put a blank disk
in A: and doubleclick the bootdisk icon. When it is done, leave the floppy
in A: and reboot. When the reboot is done and you have the A:> prompt, type
fdisk. Accept all the defaults. When fdisk is done it will tell you to hit
ESCAPE to exit fdisk. Then remove the floppy, insert the OEM cd, reboot
again and you should be on your way. When you see "Hit any key to boot from
the CD" hit a key. Ignore the same message from then on since after the
first pass you need to let the installer boot from the hard drive.

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Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]
(Reply to the group only unless otherwise requested)

If you need a dos diskette with fdisk on it, you can download one from
bootdisk.com. I use the Win98 bootdisk. You may only need to fdisk. The
OEM cd will then detect a blank drive (to the extent there will be no
Windows) and should run OK from there. Allow the full ntfs format, not
the quick format.

--
Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]
(Reply to the group only unless otherwise requested)

My experience is that an OEM installer will not proceed if Windows is
already installed.

--
Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]
(Reply to the group only unless otherwise requested)

If I take my OEM Microsoft labeled CD and try to do an
upgrade it won't work. If I use FDisk to clean the C: drive
or just Format the C: drive the OEM will install and it does
have the tools to THEN do all the same tasks as a retail CD,
but I've never tried to use an OEM to do a clean install on
a drive that has Windows already installed.

--
The people think the Constitution protects their rights;
But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome.


message | Jim Macklin wrote:
| > He bought an OEM CD, won't do all that.
| >
| >
|
| I've yet to encounter a generic OEM CD that doesn't behave
exactly like
| a retail CD, in all respects. Only if the OP had
purchased an OEM
| Recovery CD would he have limited options.
|
|
| --
|
| Bruce Chambers
|
| Help us help you:
|
|
|
| You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever
count on having
| both at once. - RAH

 

[Bruce Chambers]

If I take my OEM Microsoft labeled CD and try to do an
upgrade it won't work. If I use FDisk to clean the C: drive
or just Format the C: drive the OEM will install and it does
have the tools to THEN do all the same tasks as a retail CD,
but I've never tried to use an OEM to do a clean install on
a drive that has Windows already installed.

No, of course an OEM CD won't perform an "upgrade." It will however,
perform a clean installation, providing the options to delete, create
and format partitions.

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