Classic startmenu as default at startup

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Hi!

Does ANYONE know where the information about wether you have classic startmenu
or non-classic startmenu is stored?? I would like to change the setting, without
having to do click my way through alot of dialogs. That means: I want to change it
by changing a REGISTERKEY/VALUE or file or such.

Please please please, don't give me an answer like "just rightclick the taskbar bla
bla bla" .. I'm in need of some expert help here. Have tried both filemon and
regmon (to monitor activity in registry/on harddrive) but it doesn't give anything.

Hilfe?
 
Not certain, but I believe a Registry key called StartMenuInit is
what controls it. Dword value of 1 uses new Start Menu, 2 runs
it in Classic mode.
 
Hi Robbie,

IIRC, the Shellstate binary value controls the Start Menu style. See Shellstate structure here

SHELLSTATE:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/d...orm/shell/reference/structures/shellstate.asp

--
fStartPanelOn
Windows XP only: TRUE to use the Windows XP-style Start menu, FALSE to use the classic Start menu.
--

If you want to distribute the Shellstate key, bear in mind that all other settings may also get transferred (I've not tried it myself, answering officially) BTW, R'Mon does reveal something (if you've missed it).

Export the key to REG file and name it "1.reg"
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer]

Now, change the setting to Classic Style. Export the key to REG file and name it "2.reg"

Do a Windiff (or FC) of 1.reg and 2.reg and you'll see that a Binary value of Shellstate is changed/.

--
Ramesh - Microsoft MVP
Windows XP Shell/User
http://www.mvps.org/sramesh2k

AumHa VSOP: http://www.aumha.org

Hi!

Does ANYONE know where the information about wether you have classic startmenu
or non-classic startmenu is stored?? I would like to change the setting, without
having to do click my way through alot of dialogs. That means: I want to change it
by changing a REGISTERKEY/VALUE or file or such.

Please please please, don't give me an answer like "just rightclick the taskbar bla
bla bla" .. I'm in need of some expert help here. Have tried both filemon and
regmon (to monitor activity in registry/on harddrive) but it doesn't give anything.

Hilfe?
 
Use this method:

Force the Use of the Classic Start Menu:
http://www.winguides.com/registry/display.php/975/

-or-

Group Policy Editor in XP Professional to force classic start menu (and vice versa)

--
Ramesh - Microsoft MVP
Windows XP Shell/User
http://www.mvps.org/sramesh2k

AumHa VSOP: http://www.aumha.org

Hi Robbie,

IIRC, the Shellstate binary value controls the Start Menu style. See Shellstate structure here

SHELLSTATE:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/d...orm/shell/reference/structures/shellstate.asp

--
fStartPanelOn
Windows XP only: TRUE to use the Windows XP-style Start menu, FALSE to use the classic Start menu.
--

If you want to distribute the Shellstate key, bear in mind that all other settings may also get transferred (I've not tried it myself, answering officially) BTW, R'Mon does reveal something (if you've missed it).

Export the key to REG file and name it "1.reg"
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer]

Now, change the setting to Classic Style. Export the key to REG file and name it "2.reg"

Do a Windiff (or FC) of 1.reg and 2.reg and you'll see that a Binary value of Shellstate is changed/.

--
Ramesh - Microsoft MVP
Windows XP Shell/User
http://www.mvps.org/sramesh2k

AumHa VSOP: http://www.aumha.org

Hi!

Does ANYONE know where the information about wether you have classic startmenu
or non-classic startmenu is stored?? I would like to change the setting, without
having to do click my way through alot of dialogs. That means: I want to change it
by changing a REGISTERKEY/VALUE or file or such.

Please please please, don't give me an answer like "just rightclick the taskbar bla
bla bla" .. I'm in need of some expert help here. Have tried both filemon and
regmon (to monitor activity in registry/on harddrive) but it doesn't give anything.

Hilfe?
 
I tried what you wrote about comparing the registry before and
after, and it worked. Thanks!!

While I'm at it, you wouldn't happen to know where the simular info on
quick launch is stored (if it's shown or hidden)? I have been looking
around on the MSDN library but haven't found anything (yet), and also tried
regmon/filemon, but no changes there..
 
QL is even more complicated. The settings are saved only when you logoff/shutdown. Run R'Mon as a service and logoff (you will see that teh QL/Taskbar settings are saved during that time), also in Binaries.

--
Ramesh - Microsoft MVP
Windows XP Shell/User
http://www.mvps.org/sramesh2k

AumHa VSOP: http://www.aumha.org

I tried what you wrote about comparing the registry before and
after, and it worked. Thanks!!

While I'm at it, you wouldn't happen to know where the simular info on
quick launch is stored (if it's shown or hidden)? I have been looking
around on the MSDN library but haven't found anything (yet), and also tried
regmon/filemon, but no changes there..

--------------------
Robbie


Ramesh said:
Use this method:

Force the Use of the Classic Start Menu:
http://www.winguides.com/registry/display.php/975/

-or-

Group Policy Editor in XP Professional to force classic start menu (and vice versa)

--
Ramesh - Microsoft MVP
Windows XP Shell/User
http://www.mvps.org/sramesh2k

AumHa VSOP: http://www.aumha.org

Hi Robbie,

IIRC, the Shellstate binary value controls the Start Menu style. See Shellstate structure here

SHELLSTATE:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/d...orm/shell/reference/structures/shellstate.asp

--
fStartPanelOn
Windows XP only: TRUE to use the Windows XP-style Start menu, FALSE to use the classic Start menu.
--

If you want to distribute the Shellstate key, bear in mind that all other settings may also get transferred (I've not tried it myself, answering officially) BTW, R'Mon does reveal something (if you've missed it).

Export the key to REG file and name it "1.reg"
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer]

Now, change the setting to Classic Style. Export the key to REG file and name it "2.reg"

Do a Windiff (or FC) of 1.reg and 2.reg and you'll see that a Binary value of Shellstate is changed/.

--
Ramesh - Microsoft MVP
Windows XP Shell/User
http://www.mvps.org/sramesh2k

AumHa VSOP: http://www.aumha.org

Hi!

Does ANYONE know where the information about wether you have classic startmenu
or non-classic startmenu is stored?? I would like to change the setting, without
having to do click my way through alot of dialogs. That means: I want to change it
by changing a REGISTERKEY/VALUE or file or such.

Please please please, don't give me an answer like "just rightclick the taskbar bla
bla bla" .. I'm in need of some expert help here. Have tried both filemon and
regmon (to monitor activity in registry/on harddrive) but it doesn't give anything.

Hilfe?
 

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