Changing Navigation Bar "Text" Format

W

wwcp

I apologize upfront for previously posting this question to the
"programming" frontpage group before I realized my error - this group seems
much more compatible with my level of using FrontPage... thanks.

How do I change the "format" of my Navigation "Text" Bars that are
automatically created by FP? I know I can point at any of them and the
whole group gets highlighted - then a right click will produce the window
allowing me to Cut, Copy, Paste, etc. but the Navigation Bar Properties at
the bottom will only allow me to select "Bars" or "Text" - not the format of
"Text." The previous window will also allow me to change the "Font" of my
Text - but, not the format..

(I'm trying to get rid of the "parens" and multiple text bars per line that
automatically came up...)

Thanks so much for your assistance,

Palmer

http://www.ofgc.net
 
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=?Windows-1252?Q?Rob_Giordano_\=28aka:_Crash_Gordo

If you Modify the theme make sure you Save As a new theme name.


| You would select Format - Theme then Customize. Lots of options there.
|
| | >I apologize upfront for previously posting this question to the
| > "programming" frontpage group before I realized my error - this group
| > seems
| > much more compatible with my level of using FrontPage... thanks.
| >
| > How do I change the "format" of my Navigation "Text" Bars that are
| > automatically created by FP? I know I can point at any of them and the
| > whole group gets highlighted - then a right click will produce the window
| > allowing me to Cut, Copy, Paste, etc. but the Navigation Bar Properties at
| > the bottom will only allow me to select "Bars" or "Text" - not the format
| > of
| > "Text." The previous window will also allow me to change the "Font" of
| > my
| > Text - but, not the format..
| >
| > (I'm trying to get rid of the "parens" and multiple text bars per line
| > that
| > automatically came up...)
| >
| > Thanks so much for your assistance,
| >
| > Palmer
| >
| > http://www.ofgc.net
|
|
 
R

Ronx

Which version of FrontPage?

In FP2003, right click on the Nav Bar
Choose Link Bar Properties
On the Style Tab, scroll down to the bottom and pick a text style.
Requires FP2002 extensions on the server.
 
W

wwcp

FP2000 4.0.2

Following the Format/Theme suggestion - I couldn't find a Customize
selection.. And, that seems a little extreme to simply changing Text
navigation links.. I'm still lost.... Thanks in advance for any additional
help....

Palmer
 
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=?Windows-1252?Q?Rob_Giordano_\=28aka:_Crash_Gordo

With your web opened:

Format | Theme | Modify | Graphics | Vertical Nav (if that's the one you want to change) | Font | then Save As a new themename (whatever you want).

This is for FP2002 but I think it was pretty much the same on FP2000 - cant check it on my other machine right now.


| FP2000 4.0.2
|
| Following the Format/Theme suggestion - I couldn't find a Customize
| selection.. And, that seems a little extreme to simply changing Text
| navigation links.. I'm still lost.... Thanks in advance for any additional
| help....
|
| Palmer
 
W

wwcp

Format | Theme | Modify | Graphics | Vertical Nav (if that's the one you
want to change) | Font |
Click to expand...

I' so sorry for being a pain, but I got this far - and, it offered to let me
change Font, Vert/Horiz Alignments, etc. but, nothing about "parenths" or
multiple items per line..

Do you think I should upgrade to a more recent version???

Thanks,

Palmer
 
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=?Windows-1252?Q?Rob_Giordano_\=28aka:_Crash_Gordo

Parens would be affected by the font style, if that's what you mean.

Multiple lines...nope...you're limited by the 150px +/- that the nav graphics have available. You 'can' modify the graphics themselves but if you're gonna go through all that you probably would be best served by using your own navs.

You 'may' want to look into using Included Pages for your navigation..you'd create an included page (one) where your nav buttons would go, then insert the nav include page into lets say a left-most column on each page. Then you only have to (manually) change the navs in one place (the included page). It's not as easy as letting FP manage navs BUT once you get into multi-level structures the FP managed navs will drive you *bonkers* anyway :)

hth...


|
| > Format | Theme | Modify | Graphics | Vertical Nav (if that's the one you
| > want to change) | Font |
|
| I' so sorry for being a pain, but I got this far - and, it offered to let me
| change Font, Vert/Horiz Alignments, etc. but, nothing about "parenths" or
| multiple items per line..
|
| Do you think I should upgrade to a more recent version???
|
| Thanks,
|
| Palmer
 
T

Thomas A. Rowe

Multi-lines are not supported by the FP navigation components.

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==============================================
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WEBMASTER Resources(tm)

FrontPage Resources, WebCircle, MS KB Quick Links, etc.
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W

wwcp

Thanks so much. I never knew about Included Pages before... neat concept..
The auto Navs were giving me fits, anyway... (just as you suggested 8^) -
and, I have long thought that I should take some time to work up my own...
This will simply force me into it....

Many thanks for your response and support... This is a very helpful
newsgroup...

Later,

Palmer
 
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=?Windows-1252?Q?Rob_Giordano_\=28aka:_Crash_Gordo

Welcome!

I use the FP navs on quickie sites, but when they get too deep they make me nuts.

have fun!


| Thanks so much. I never knew about Included Pages before... neat concept..
| The auto Navs were giving me fits, anyway... (just as you suggested 8^) -
| and, I have long thought that I should take some time to work up my own...
| This will simply force me into it....
|
| Many thanks for your response and support... This is a very helpful
| newsgroup...
|
| Later,
|
| Palmer
 
W

wwcp

I meant multiple page entries per each line... (Take a quick look at my
FrontPage (lol) http://www.ofgc.net)

But, I am going to take the suggestion to work up a special page with the
Navs I want to be Included in my Shared left borders.. That way I can
categorize them, too:

Club Information (not a hot link)
Membership (page)
Charter/Purpose (page)
Meetings (page)

etc,

Great forum... thanks so much...

Palmer
 
W

wwcp

Great I worked up a page of "navs" and Included it in the Shared Border on
my FrontPage, but it comes up in a single column table (looks like) that is
narrower than my included page... And, I don't seem to have any control
over it's width... Any ideas on how I can widen that column???

Thanks,

Palmer
 
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=?Windows-1252?Q?Rob_Giordano_\=28aka:_Crash_Gordo

Try in NOT in a Shared Border.

Create an experimental page with a 2 column table set at 100%, then put your Include in the left column, and something else (maybe an image) in the right column. You can experiment with column width on the left column with the include in it.


| Great I worked up a page of "navs" and Included it in the Shared Border on
| my FrontPage, but it comes up in a single column table (looks like) that is
| narrower than my included page... And, I don't seem to have any control
| over it's width... Any ideas on how I can widen that column???
|
| Thanks,
|
| Palmer
 
W

wwcp

Thanks, you are being very helpful.. But, Oh Dear - how do I get rid of
Shared Borders?? (No since of having them if I'm going to be creating my
own...) I can see how to change them - and, how to put stuff in them...
but, no way to removed them... (??)

I fully understand the "two column" full page table approach... thanks...
great idea... (Due to information I've previously gained from this great
forum - I use Tables all over the place....

But, shouldn't I get rid of Shared Borders???

Thanks again...

Palmer
 
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=?Windows-1252?Q?Rob_Giordano_\=28aka:_Crash_Gordo

*When* you're ready; Open your Web, Open a Page...Format | Shared Borders then get rid of them. (make sure you have new design planned out first :)

Then Recalculate Hyperlinks (this is my good luck charm :)

Then Re-Publish to server.




| Thanks, you are being very helpful.. But, Oh Dear - how do I get rid of
| Shared Borders?? (No since of having them if I'm going to be creating my
| own...) I can see how to change them - and, how to put stuff in them...
| but, no way to removed them... (??)
|
| I fully understand the "two column" full page table approach... thanks...
| great idea... (Due to information I've previously gained from this great
| forum - I use Tables all over the place....
|
| But, shouldn't I get rid of Shared Borders???
|
| Thanks again...
|
| Palmer
 
W

wwcp

*When* you're ready; Open your Web, Open a Page...Format | Shared Borders
then get rid of them.
Click to expand...

It's the "getting rid of" that's my problem... I click on Format then
Shared Borders, but then it doesn't seem to give me an option to delete
them... Just All Pages, Current Page, Top, Left, or Rest to System Default
(which isn't active..) (??)

Continued thanks,

Palmer
 
T

Thomas A. Rowe

Set All pages, then uncheck all boxes for Top, Left, etc.

--
==============================================
Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
WEBMASTER Resources(tm)

FrontPage Resources, WebCircle, MS KB Quick Links, etc.
==============================================
 
W

wwcp

Duh!!! (lol)

Thanks so much for putting up with my obvious insensitivity to FrontPage
"logic".... Sorry....

Hey, I think I'm on my way..... Now, I wonder what that little red X means
up in the upper right hand corner...... hum??? (lol)

Later,

Palmer
 
W

wwcp

However, I'm still stuck with the same "width" problem I had before... I've
created a 2 column full page table and Included that Page of nothing but
Navs. (and, my club logo at the top..) But, what shows up in the left hand
column is not as wide as my "page of navs" (??) And, there is plenty of
room in the left hand column.... Any ideas, here???

Thanks again,

Palmer
 

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