changing default message view - outlook 2003 ?

[FW]

The default message view in Outlook 2003 is "Show in Groups". It's easy
enough to turn this off for a particular folder ... but, how do I change the
default, so that after setting up Outlook for the first time I don't then
have to go through each folder, one-at-a-time, turning off the "Show in
Groups" view?

Thanks,
FW

 

[Roady]

You can't really but that didn't stop Sue Mosher...
http://www.ntmag.com/MicrosoftExchangeOutlook/Article/ArticleID/38527/38527.html

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[FW]

Thanks Roady. Would you mind cutting-and-pasting the text from Sue's
solution, as I'm not a subscriber to ntmag.

FW

 

[Diane Poremsky [MVP]]

Change the settings for the default view by name, not as current view. View,
Arrange By, find Define Views. Select Messages view and modify it. For best
results, before you change the view you need to start outlook with the
/cleanviews switch - at start menu, run, type outlook /cleanviews.

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[Sue Mosher [MVP]]

I posted a bunch of interface control ideas at http://www.slipstick.com/outlook/ol2003/interface.htm . I think the "classic" instructions might help with this.
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[FW]

Diane,

Thanks, but I can only find 'Define Views' under 'Current View'. How do I
find the default view by name, so that I can follow your instructions?

FW

Change the settings for the default view by name, not as current view. View,
Arrange By, find Define Views. Select Messages view and modify it. For best
results, before you change the view you need to start outlook with the
/cleanviews switch - at start menu, run, type outlook /cleanviews.

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours
Coauthor, OneNote 2003 for Windows (Visual QuickStart Guide)



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The default message view in Outlook 2003 is "Show in Groups". It's easy
enough to turn this off for a particular folder ... but, how do I change the
default, so that after setting up Outlook for the first time I don't then
have to go through each folder, one-at-a-time, turning off the "Show in
Groups" view?

Thanks,
FW

 

[FW]

Hi Sue,

Thanks. I tried exactly what your article said, a few times, but
unfortunately this change only gets applied to the current folder being
viewed. As soon as I click onto another folder it's back to the unwanted
view again. This is the same problem I have with Diane's suggestion.

How do I reset the default view such that it applies to ALL existing and new
folders?

FW




I posted a bunch of interface control ideas at
http://www.slipstick.com/outlook/ol2003/interface.htm . I think the
"classic" instructions might help with this.
--
Sue Mosher, Outlook MVP
Outlook and Exchange solutions at http://www.slipstick.com
Author of
Microsoft Outlook Programming: Jumpstart
for Administrators, Power Users, and Developers

 

[Diane Poremsky [MVP]]

View > Arrange by > Current View > Define Views brings up a dialog showing
all views for the folder. The first view is <current view>, followed by
views by name. Most people use Messages view since it's the default for new
folders. Select Messages and Modify, not <current view> even though Messages
= <current view>. When you change the <current view> selection it applies
only the current folder.

Views are easily "one-offed" so if you've changed some views already, close
outlook and reopen it from start menu run by typing

Outlook /cleanviews

before changing the views.

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Diane,

Thanks, but I can only find 'Define Views' under 'Current View'. How do I
find the default view by name, so that I can follow your instructions?

FW

Change the settings for the default view by name, not as current view. View,
Arrange By, find Define Views. Select Messages view and modify it. For best
results, before you change the view you need to start outlook with the
/cleanviews switch - at start menu, run, type outlook /cleanviews.

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours
Coauthor, OneNote 2003 for Windows (Visual QuickStart Guide)



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[FW]

Diane,

Once again, thanks for your input. Unfortunately, what you suggest does not
actually work. This is what I was doing already, but any modifications made
to this view (via 'Messages' not 'current view') do not get applied to new
folders. I have tried using the cleanviews switch, then applying the
modification, and then look at existing folders and new folders. They do not
use the new setting.

Another bug in Outlook 2003.

FW

View > Arrange by > Current View > Define Views brings up a dialog showing
all views for the folder. The first view is <current view>, followed by
views by name. Most people use Messages view since it's the default for new
folders. Select Messages and Modify, not <current view> even though Messages
= <current view>. When you change the <current view> selection it applies
only the current folder.

Views are easily "one-offed" so if you've changed some views already, close
outlook and reopen it from start menu run by typing

Outlook /cleanviews

before changing the views.

--

Diane,

Thanks, but I can only find 'Define Views' under 'Current View'. How do I
find the default view by name, so that I can follow your instructions?

FW

Change the settings for the default view by name, not as current view. View,
Arrange By, find Define Views. Select Messages view and modify it. For best
results, before you change the view you need to start outlook with the
/cleanviews switch - at start menu, run, type outlook /cleanviews.

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours
Coauthor, OneNote 2003 for Windows (Visual QuickStart Guide)



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[Trac]

I have a very similar question. Our company is getting ready to
deploy Outlook 2003 and I would like to make the default view appear
like out current version, Outlook 2002.

By using the Custom Installation Wizard I have customized most of my
options. However, I can not find a way to turn off the groups. I
would think that there must be a registry hack that would take care of
this.

Any suggestions?

 

[Sue Mosher [MVP]]

No, AFAIK, there is no method to accomplish that as a global setting.
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Outlook and Exchange solutions at http://www.slipstick.com
Author of
Microsoft Outlook Programming: Jumpstart
for Administrators, Power Users, and Developers

 

[Robbie Allen]

I like Outlook 2003, but this is a major pain in the neck. With the
whole "view" concept I'm amazed Microsoft wouldn't allow you to make
one the "default" and use it for all. It is the same kind of concept
as in Windows Explorer where you can customize how the contents of
folders are displayed.

Robbie Allen
http://www.rallenhome.com/

 

[Diane Poremsky [MVP]]

if the view is one-offed, you need to reset all views before making the
changes to the message view - then it will apply to all folders and new
folders.

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Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours
Coauthor, OneNote 2003 for Windows (Visual QuickStart Guide)



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[Robbie Allen]

Well I decided to write a script to fix this. In case anyone is
interested, here it is:

http://www.rallenhome.com/scripting.html
http://www.rallenhome.com/scripting/src/outlook_set_folder_views.pls.txt

One warning: I wrote it in Perl ;-) But it would be pretty easy to
convert it to VBScript is you are so inclined. It enumerates all the
folders in your inbox and PSTs and sets the same view settings for all
of them. It worked like a charm for me, but if you want to use it
you'll undoubtedly need to customize it.

Regards,
Robbie Allen
http://www.rallenhome.com/