Change To 3.2Ghz - 2 Power Supply Blown!!


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coco3271

Hi,

I just changed my processor upgrading from 2.53ghz to 3.2Eghz.

and my power supply of 350W, actually the fuse, was blown!
We hear a big noise and lights out of the fan. Seems like NOS in need
for speed. lol

my specs are:
MSI PT880 Neo-LSR
2x512MB Dual Channel PC 3200 KingMax
ATI ALL IN WONDER X800XT
4 Hard Drives:
• 1 SATA MAXTOR 300GB
• 1 IDE WESTERN DIGITAL 80GB
• 1 IDE Maxtor 20GB
• 1 IDE Seagate 8GB
• 1 IDE Seagate 200GB

1 DVD Burner Pioneer DVR-109
1 2005FPW DELL 20.1" LCD
1 Z5500 5.1 Surround Sound.

I first had 2 power supply.
1 connected to the motherboard + Graphic Card.
The other 1 connected to all the drives.
Both power supplies are 350W each.

Then I was running 3dMark05, and 1 power supply blow, you can hear a
*Boom* with lightss.

Then I took that one out, and now only 1 Power Supply which is
connected to all of the drives + mobo + graphic card.

the starting screen of the BIOS was slower than before, and I was
checking my emails and I had the PC turn on for about $15 minutes,
the Other power supply blowed!!

2 Power supplies down. and I don't know if it's the CPU, because
that's the only change I did.
Before with the 2.53Ghz, it worked just fine with all the specs.

I then opened the power supply to see what's wrong with it.
I found out that the fuse of the power supply blowed for both of the
power supplies.

Does anyone has the solution to this, or did anyone had the same
problem?

Should I buy a surge protector, a more powerful power supply or
anyting that would make my system work again?

Thank you in advance,
 
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JAD

I first had 2 power supply.
the one that powered the drives is the dead one?
that would figure, you jumpered the connector?
 
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Michael Hawes

JAD said:
I first had 2 power supply.

the one that powered the drives is the dead one?
that would figure, you jumpered the connector?
You need a GOOD 450-500W for that lot. Good brand name, not some unknown
made in China rubbish.
Mike.
 
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coco3271

:D Yup I jumpered the connector of the power supply to get it working
without being connected to the motherboard.

So someone advise me to buy another 500W power supply and connect only
the graphic card mouse and monitor and then try adding one hardware at
a time to see where the failure comes from.

But does anyone knows if It exists power supply that has Fuse easily
replacable because the power supplies that was blown, the fuse was
soldered to the circuit.

Thanks guys
 
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JAD

there is something about using a straight short to jumper. on some PSU's it
really has no effect on others it takes its life in a short time. I read a
post awhile back that was about this, it was recommended to use a resistor
of a specifies ohmage to jumper. I can't give the specifics, but if I'm
wrong that will motivate somebody who knows if its true or not. I have
experienced it, but the PSU was marginal to begin with.
 
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DaveW

You need a single, larger, HIGH QUALITY brand (Antec recommended) power
supply unit for all those devices.
 
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coco3271

oh wow Thanks Dave and JAD, I didn't know that, I am heading tonight
to buy a 600W power supply and a UPS. Because I don't want that to
happen again.

Thanks for all your help.
 
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Odie Ferrous

coco3271 said:
oh wow Thanks Dave and JAD, I didn't know that, I am heading tonight
to buy a 600W power supply and a UPS. Because I don't want that to
happen again.

Thanks for all your help.

You said you had 4 hard drives in your system, but you list 5.

I cannot, for the life of me, work out why anyone in their right mind
would need so many drives in a system. Sure, if you edit video I could
understand a few 200 - 300GB drives - but in there you have a poxy 8Gb
drive. Why? Is it like painting "go faster" stripes on a car?


Odie
 
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coco3271

Hi Odie,

I have a problem with my previous Seagate 80GB hard Drive.
It's actually not working, you cannot hear any noise, it seems like it
doesn't have power even if I connect the power to it.

I have a lot of files in there that I would want to recover, and as
you are expert in the field, do you have any helpful tips to give to
me to recover the data in the hard drive?

I was reading about how to recover hard drive, and some of them state
that when you can hear a regular noise, at the same frequency, you
can put that in the freezer and then it worked again for once.
Another one is droping it on the floor.

I have my cousin who had the same problem but his hard drive produces
a regular noise, like "tic, tic, tic". Because he was writing to his
HD, Reading, but his system was slow and not responding, so He shut
down his system. And now the Hard drive doesn't work.

Thank you in advance,
 
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coco3271

:D Hello everyone,

It's Fixed! I bought an Aspire 500W power supply. Beautiful that power
supply! It has blue light, yellow cable, soon it's going to be a
racing car, haha

here's the link for the powa supply:
http://www.techfreaks.org/reviews/aspire500w.shtml

Mine looks exactly like that one. And as you notice there's a control
on the back that you can set how fast is the FAN, so it can be noisy
or quiet.
But keep in mind that you cannot shut down the fan, it varies between
80%-100%.
 
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Guest

coco3271 said:
I have a problem with my previous Seagate 80GB hard Drive.
It's actually not working, you cannot hear any noise,
I have a lot of files in there that I would want to recover
I was reading about how to recover hard drive, and some of them state
that when you can hear a regular noise, at the same frequency, you
can put that in the freezer and then it worked again for once.
Another one is droping it on the floor.

Don't drop it. The freezer trick may work if a power transistor
(transistors drive the motor and head servo) is marginal, but don't let
condensation form (refrigerator is safer). If the drive spins with the
data cable (ribbon cable) unplugged, the problem is somewhere else in
the drive electronics.
 
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Guest

coco3271 said:
I just changed my processor upgrading from 2.53ghz to 3.2Eghz.
and my power supply of 350W, actually the fuse, was blown!
We hear a big noise and lights out of the fan.
ATI ALL IN WONDER X800XT
4 Hard Drives:
1 DVD Burner Pioneer DVR-109
I first had 2 power supply.
1 connected to the motherboard + Graphic Card.
The other 1 connected to all the drives.
Both power supplies are 350W each.

Then I was running 3dMark05, and 1 power supply blow, you can hear a
*Boom* with lightss.

Then I took that one out, and now only 1 Power Supply
the starting screen of the BIOS was slower than before,
I had the PC turn on for about $15 minutes, the Other
power supply blowed!!
Before with the 2.53Ghz, it worked just fine with all the specs.

A blown fuse in a power supply usually means more than a fuse blew.
Suspect a shorted high voltage transistor, diode in the voltage
doubler, or a large high voltage capacitor (200-450V). Repair by a
shop costs more than an entire new power supply. What brands were your
350W supplies? Quality varies greatly, with 1 company's 500W being
like another's 250W.
It's Fixed! I bought an Aspire 500W power supply.

I hope it works well for you, but it looks less substantial than this
480W Tagan, made by the same company, Topower:
http://www.tech-pc.co.uk/reviews/tagan/inside.jpg
 
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Guest

JAD said:
there is something about using a straight short to
jumper. on some PSU's it really has no effect on
others it takes its life in a short time. I read a
post awhile back that was about this, it was
recommended to use a resistor of a specifies ohmage
to jumper.

A direct short between the green Power_On wire and any of the black
ground wires will do absolutely no harm, and the resistor
(approximately 500 ohms, but 1,000 ohms almost always works) is for
protection against incorrect connections. Some suppies won't turn on
when the green and black wires are shorted together because they won't
turn on without a load on the +5V output (sometimes also the +3.3V).
 
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coco3271

Hey thanks everyone for sharing your expertise.

I will put my hard drive in the refregirator.
Anyone know how long should it stay?

Yes, my 350W power supply was "CHANNEL WELL TECHNOLOGY CO., LTD and
the other 350W power supply was "OKIA-350-ATX".

It blew because I was doing some 3D benchmarking. I asked a sale
vendor for my specs, and he seems actually sure that It was the
graphic card because the minimum requirement with the X800 Series,
are 400W.

When I bought the 500W power supply, I did test again the benchmark,
and It came through it.

I don't really need the 500W but it depends on how many drives are
using the power, how many USB devices you are connecting to, and
definitely the processor needs a higher power for a 3.2Ghz.

The heat generated when playing games are much higher, thus I needed
some more fan to cool down the whole system.

Do you guys know if the SATA hard drive is a little SCSI?
my SATA one says Maxtor 6 B300S0 SCSI Disk Device when I go to the
Device Manager under the Disk Drives trees.

Thanks in advance
 

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