Can't turn off Windows Firewall

G

Gordon

XP SP2, fully patched. using Zone Alarm. In Security settings, the "turn
off" button is grayed out. I am logged in as admin and am NOT on a domain.
All the google results I get are for domains.....
Can anyone help?
 
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Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]

Gordon said:
XP SP2, fully patched. using Zone Alarm. In Security settings, the
"turn off" button is grayed out. I am logged in as admin and am NOT
on a domain. All the google results I get are for domains.....
Can anyone help?

Since you have ZoneAlarm, installing it should've disabled the Windows
firewall. Did it ever work? Have you tried uninstalling/reinstalling it?
Was your computer *ever* a member of a domain?
Can you stop the underlying windows service?
 
G

Gordon

"Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"
Since you have ZoneAlarm, installing it should've disabled the Windows
firewall.

it doesn't seem to have
Did it ever work?

Yes - I've only installed ZoneAlarm today as an alternatice to the Windows
Firewall...
Have you tried uninstalling/reinstalling it?

Just going to.....
Was your computer *ever* a member of a domain?

No, never.
Can you stop the underlying windows service?

yes - presumably that's the Windows Firewall/ICS service in services.msc?
 
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Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]

Gordon said:
"Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"
Since you have ZoneAlarm, installing it should've disabled the
Windows firewall.

it doesn't seem to have
Did it ever work?

Yes - I've only installed ZoneAlarm today as an alternatice to the
Windows Firewall...
Have you tried uninstalling/reinstalling it?

Just going to.....
Was your computer *ever* a member of a domain?

No, never.

Hmm. Anything in your event logs?
Can you see anything if you look at gpedit.msc and look for the firewall
config settings in your local policy?
yes - presumably that's the Windows Firewall/ICS service in
services.msc?

Yep.
 
G

Gordon

"Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"
Gordon said:
"Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"
XP SP2, fully patched. using Zone Alarm. In Security settings, the
"turn off" button is grayed out. I am logged in as admin and am NOT
on a domain. All the google results I get are for domains.....
Can anyone help?

Since you have ZoneAlarm, installing it should've disabled the
Windows firewall.

it doesn't seem to have
Did it ever work?

Yes - I've only installed ZoneAlarm today as an alternatice to the
Windows Firewall...
Have you tried uninstalling/reinstalling it?

Just going to.....
Was your computer *ever* a member of a domain?

No, never.

Hmm. Anything in your event logs?
Can you see anything if you look at gpedit.msc and look for the firewall
config settings in your local policy?
yes - presumably that's the Windows Firewall/ICS service in
services.msc?

Yep.


Update - I uninstalled ZoneAlarm and re-booted. Still no option to turn off
Windows Firewall in security settings. Re-installed Zonealarm - windows
Firewall appears to be still on as I got an alert from it after having
re-installed ZoneAlarm.

What now?
 
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Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]

Update - I uninstalled ZoneAlarm and re-booted. Still no option to
turn off Windows Firewall in security settings. Re-installed
Zonealarm - windows Firewall appears to be still on as I got an alert
from it after having re-installed ZoneAlarm.

What now?

OK, but what about the answers to my previous questions?
 
G

Gordon

"Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"

Not that I can see - plenty of activity in windows defender but nothing
related to Windows Firewall at all.


here are the settings I exported:

Setting State
Windows Firewall: Protect all network connections Not configured
Windows Firewall: Do not allow exceptions Not configured
Windows Firewall: Define program exceptions Not configured
Windows Firewall: Allow local program exceptions Not configured
Windows Firewall: Allow remote administration exception Not configured
Windows Firewall: Allow file and printer sharing exception Not configured
Windows Firewall: Allow ICMP exceptions Not configured
Windows Firewall: Allow Remote Desktop exception Not configured
Windows Firewall: Allow UPnP framework exception Not configured
Windows Firewall: Prohibit notifications Not configured
Windows Firewall: Allow logging Not configured
Windows Firewall: Prohibit unicast response to multicast or broadcast
requests Not configured
Windows Firewall: Define port exceptions Not configured
Windows Firewall: Allow local port exceptions Not configured
 
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Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]

Gordon said:
"Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"

Not that I can see - plenty of activity in windows defender but
nothing related to Windows Firewall at all.


here are the settings I exported:

Setting State
Windows Firewall: Protect all network connections Not configured
Windows Firewall: Do not allow exceptions Not configured
Windows Firewall: Define program exceptions Not configured
Windows Firewall: Allow local program exceptions Not configured
Windows Firewall: Allow remote administration exception Not configured
Windows Firewall: Allow file and printer sharing exception Not
configured Windows Firewall: Allow ICMP exceptions Not configured
Windows Firewall: Allow Remote Desktop exception Not configured
Windows Firewall: Allow UPnP framework exception Not configured
Windows Firewall: Prohibit notifications Not configured
Windows Firewall: Allow logging Not configured
Windows Firewall: Prohibit unicast response to multicast or broadcast
requests Not configured
Windows Firewall: Define port exceptions Not configured
Windows Firewall: Allow local port exceptions Not configure

Weird. I don't work with many standalone workstations, so I don't know if
this will work, but what about rsop.msc?
 
G

Gordon

"Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"
Gordon said:
"Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"
<snip>


Hmm. Anything in your event logs?

Not that I can see - plenty of activity in windows defender but
nothing related to Windows Firewall at all.

Can you see anything if you look at gpedit.msc and look for the
firewall config settings in your local policy?

here are the settings I exported:

Setting State
Windows Firewall: Protect all network connections Not configured
Windows Firewall: Do not allow exceptions Not configured
Windows Firewall: Define program exceptions Not configured
Windows Firewall: Allow local program exceptions Not configured
Windows Firewall: Allow remote administration exception Not configured
Windows Firewall: Allow file and printer sharing exception Not
configured Windows Firewall: Allow ICMP exceptions Not configured
Windows Firewall: Allow Remote Desktop exception Not configured
Windows Firewall: Allow UPnP framework exception Not configured
Windows Firewall: Prohibit notifications Not configured
Windows Firewall: Allow logging Not configured
Windows Firewall: Prohibit unicast response to multicast or broadcast
requests Not configured
Windows Firewall: Define port exceptions Not configured
Windows Firewall: Allow local port exceptions Not configure

Weird. I don't work with many standalone workstations, so I don't know if
this will work, but what about rsop.msc?


Got that up, what am I looking for?
 
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Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]

Gordon said:
"Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"
Gordon said:
"Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"
message
<snip>


Hmm. Anything in your event logs?

Not that I can see - plenty of activity in windows defender but
nothing related to Windows Firewall at all.


Can you see anything if you look at gpedit.msc and look for the
firewall config settings in your local policy?

here are the settings I exported:

Setting State
Windows Firewall: Protect all network connections Not configured
Windows Firewall: Do not allow exceptions Not configured
Windows Firewall: Define program exceptions Not configured
Windows Firewall: Allow local program exceptions Not configured
Windows Firewall: Allow remote administration exception Not
configured Windows Firewall: Allow file and printer sharing
exception Not configured Windows Firewall: Allow ICMP exceptions
Not configured Windows Firewall: Allow Remote Desktop exception Not
configured Windows Firewall: Allow UPnP framework exception Not
configured Windows Firewall: Prohibit notifications Not configured
Windows Firewall: Allow logging Not configured
Windows Firewall: Prohibit unicast response to multicast or
broadcast requests Not configured
Windows Firewall: Define port exceptions Not configured
Windows Firewall: Allow local port exceptions Not configure

Weird. I don't work with many standalone workstations, so I don't
know if this will work, but what about rsop.msc?


Got that up, what am I looking for?

Expand through til you get to the same place/settings.

another thought....what happens if you log into this computer as the
built-in Administrator account?
 
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Gordon

"Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"
the only entry relating to firewall that I can find is in Computer
Configuration-Windows settings-Security settings-System services and says
Windows firewall/Internet Connection service not defined.
another thought....what happens if you log into this computer as the
built-in Administrator account?

Exactly the same - no option to turn the Windows firewall off, even though
ZoneAlarm has loaded...
 
S

Shenan Stanley

Entire conversation here:
http://groups.google.com/group/micr...b04e9cbd8e5?lnk=st&q=&rnum=1#d017bb04e9cbd8e5


Gordon wrote:
<snipped>

Lanwench [MVP - Exchange] wrote:
<snipped>

Gordon,

Try the following:
http://windowsxp.mvps.org/resetfwpol.htm
(I believe Lanwench may have walked you through this somewhat already...)


If that does not work...
http://windowsxp.mvps.org/sharedaccess.htm

I realize it does *not* describe your issue exactly - but resetting many of
the firewall settings just may be what you need to do. Particularly:

CMD /K NETSH FIREWALL RESET
Reboot

or

rundll32 setupapi,InstallHinfSection Ndi-Steelhead 132
%windir%\inf\netrass.inf
Reboot
CMD /K NETSH FIREWALL RESET
Reboot

It's worth a shot and cannot hurt in your current situation.
 

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