Can't see other computers on Network


W

WilliamW

I have a Vista Home Premium Laptop and a Vista Ultimate PC. Both are
connected to the same network and workgroup. The laptop is wireless and the
PC is wired. If I connect the laptop to the PC with a crossover cable I have
no problems with the network. Both computers have sharing enabled for all
but Password and Media.

Any ideas on where to start
 
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M

Mick Murphy

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb727037.aspx

Have a read of the above link re Vista File and Printer Sharing.
How to give Permissions are there, too.
If you are running Norton, etc’s Firewall, check its settings.

1st thing to do is make sure that the Workgroup Name of ALL the computers is
the SAME.

In Vista Network and Sharing:

Network Discovery: ON (So it can see the other computers)

Network set to Private (Public is for hotspots, airports, etc)

File Sharing: ON

Public Folder Sharing: ON (Vista’s Public Folder is the same as XP’s Shared
Docs)

Password Protected: OFF (unless you want to set up identical usernames and
passwords on ALL computers in your Network) If you have it ON, you will be
asked for a username and password when you try to access a Vista computer
from an XP computer.
 
W

WilliamW

I'm not 100% sure how to ping the laptop from the PC or vice versa. I was
able to ping the gateway.
 
W

WilliamW

I reviewed the link and verified all the items listed there are executed -
permissions are set to Everyone on both computers. Password Protection is
disabled on both. All sharing except Media are enabled on both. Both are in
the same workgroup (even checked for typos) with Network Discovery enabled.
Both are set to private network. Both Link Layer items are checked in the
connection properties on both computers.

Both are using Windows firewall with FIle and Printer Sharing and Network
Discovery checked in the exceptions list.

I can even access the gateway address from both computers (192.168.0.1) and
do have internet access on both.
 
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W

WilliamW

my PC (wired) was able to ping the laptop, but the laptop(wireless) was
unable to ping the PC.
 
W

WilliamW

Microsoft Windows [Version 6.0.6000]
Copyright (c) 2006 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

C:\Users\Nestor>ipconfig /all

Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : Nestor-Laptop
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : mygateway.net

Wireless LAN adapter Wireless Network Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : mygateway.net
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) Wireless WiFi Link 4965AGN
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-1D-E0-23-D2-87
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::c959:2e3a:cdb9:b08a%12(Preferred)
Autoconfiguration IPv4 Address. . : 169.254.176.138(Preferred)
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.0.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
DHCPv6 IAID . . . . . . . . . . . : 335551968
DHCPv6 Client DUID. . . . . . . . :
00-01-00-01-0E-ED-25-E3-00-1B-24-D5-E0-1B

DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : fe80::c959:2e3a:cdb9:b08a%12
192.168.0.1
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : mygateway.net
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL8101E Family PCI-E Fast
Ethern
et NIC (NDIS 6.0)
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-1B-24-D5-E0-1B
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 7:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : mygateway.net
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : isatap.mygateway.net
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . :
fe80::5efe:169.254.176.138%14(Preferred)

Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : fe80::c959:2e3a:cdb9:b08a%12
192.168.0.1
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled

Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 12:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : 6TO4 Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 16:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 02-00-54-55-4E-01
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
 
R

Robert L. \(MS-MVP\)

"Autoconfiguration IPv4 Address. . : 169.254.176.138(Preferred)" is the
problem. You may want to check if there is a new firmware for the router or
a new driver for the NIC. Otherwise, you may try to disable Ipv6. This post
may help too.

Vista: unidentified networkTo my surprize, it was getting 169.254.90.121,
with a subnet mask of .... Vista: unidentified network The Network and
Sharing center will identify the ...
www.chicagotech.net/netforums/viewtopic.php?p=1377&sid=efd7bb2fe5c9d78c8fafa9d9fb0d00cc


--
Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on
http://www.ChicagoTech.net
How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on
http://www.HowToNetworking.com


WilliamW said:
Microsoft Windows [Version 6.0.6000]
Copyright (c) 2006 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

C:\Users\Nestor>ipconfig /all

Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : Nestor-Laptop
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : mygateway.net

Wireless LAN adapter Wireless Network Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : mygateway.net
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) Wireless WiFi Link 4965AGN
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-1D-E0-23-D2-87
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . :
fe80::c959:2e3a:cdb9:b08a%12(Preferred)
Autoconfiguration IPv4 Address. . : 169.254.176.138(Preferred)
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.0.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
DHCPv6 IAID . . . . . . . . . . . : 335551968
DHCPv6 Client DUID. . . . . . . . :
00-01-00-01-0E-ED-25-E3-00-1B-24-D5-E0-1B

DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : fe80::c959:2e3a:cdb9:b08a%12
192.168.0.1
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : mygateway.net
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL8101E Family PCI-E Fast
Ethern
et NIC (NDIS 6.0)
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-1B-24-D5-E0-1B
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 7:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : mygateway.net
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : isatap.mygateway.net
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . :
fe80::5efe:169.254.176.138%14(Preferred)

Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : fe80::c959:2e3a:cdb9:b08a%12
192.168.0.1
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled

Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 12:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : 6TO4 Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 16:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 02-00-54-55-4E-01
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Robert L. (MS-MVP) said:
Go to each computer, type ipconfig. You will find each computer's IP.

--
Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on
http://www.ChicagoTech.net
How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on
http://www.HowToNetworking.com
 
A

Azadeh

I have similar problem. I have three computers connected to the network. One
computer is using XP, second one W98 and the last one Vista home premium. I
can see other computer from both W98 and Xp. However, I am not able to see XP
and W98 from Vista. All sharings except media and password are ON. I would
like to see other computers from Vista and share printer from W98 and XP. Any
idea to resolve the problem.

Thanks

Azadeh
 
W

WilliamW

There doesn't seem to be any firmware update for the router or new drivers
for the NIC. I have disabled IPv6 and set a static IPv4 address of
192.168.0.102. Everytime the laptop reboots, the connection to the internet
is active and in fine working order. However, I still cannot see the PC from
the laptop or the laptop from the PC.
When I ping the laptop from the PC, I get:
Pinging 192.168.0.102 with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 192.168.0.102: bytes=32 time=9ms TTL=128
Reply from 192.168.0.102: bytes=32 time=3ms TTL=128
Reply from 192.168.0.102: bytes=32 time=3ms TTL=128
Reply from 192.168.0.102: bytes=32 time=2ms TTL=128

Ping statistics for 192.168.0.102:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss)
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 2ms, Maximum = 9ms, Average = 4ms

When pinging the PC from the laptop I get:
Pinging 192.168.1.2 with 32 bytes of data:

Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.

Ping statistics for 192.168.1.2:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 0, Lost = 4 (100% loss),


Robert L. (MS-MVP) said:
"Autoconfiguration IPv4 Address. . : 169.254.176.138(Preferred)" is the
problem. You may want to check if there is a new firmware for the router or
a new driver for the NIC. Otherwise, you may try to disable Ipv6. This post
may help too.

Vista: unidentified networkTo my surprize, it was getting 169.254.90.121,
with a subnet mask of .... Vista: unidentified network The Network and
Sharing center will identify the ...
www.chicagotech.net/netforums/viewtopic.php?p=1377&sid=efd7bb2fe5c9d78c8fafa9d9fb0d00cc


--
Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on
http://www.ChicagoTech.net
How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on
http://www.HowToNetworking.com


WilliamW said:
Microsoft Windows [Version 6.0.6000]
Copyright (c) 2006 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

C:\Users\Nestor>ipconfig /all

Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : Nestor-Laptop
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : mygateway.net

Wireless LAN adapter Wireless Network Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : mygateway.net
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) Wireless WiFi Link 4965AGN
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-1D-E0-23-D2-87
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . :
fe80::c959:2e3a:cdb9:b08a%12(Preferred)
Autoconfiguration IPv4 Address. . : 169.254.176.138(Preferred)
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.0.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
DHCPv6 IAID . . . . . . . . . . . : 335551968
DHCPv6 Client DUID. . . . . . . . :
00-01-00-01-0E-ED-25-E3-00-1B-24-D5-E0-1B

DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : fe80::c959:2e3a:cdb9:b08a%12
192.168.0.1
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : mygateway.net
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL8101E Family PCI-E Fast
Ethern
et NIC (NDIS 6.0)
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-1B-24-D5-E0-1B
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 7:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : mygateway.net
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : isatap.mygateway.net
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . :
fe80::5efe:169.254.176.138%14(Preferred)

Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : fe80::c959:2e3a:cdb9:b08a%12
192.168.0.1
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled

Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 12:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : 6TO4 Adapter
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 16:

Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 02-00-54-55-4E-01
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

Robert L. (MS-MVP) said:
Go to each computer, type ipconfig. You will find each computer's IP.

--
Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on
http://www.ChicagoTech.net
How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on
http://www.HowToNetworking.com


I'm not 100% sure how to ping the laptop from the PC or vice versa. I
was
able to ping the gateway.

:

Can they ping each other by IP?

--
Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on
http://www.ChicagoTech.net
How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on
http://www.HowToNetworking.com


I have a Vista Home Premium Laptop and a Vista Ultimate PC. Both are
connected to the same network and workgroup. The laptop is wireless
and
the
PC is wired. If I connect the laptop to the PC with a crossover
cable
I
have
no problems with the network. Both computers have sharing enabled
for
all
but Password and Media.

Any ideas on where to start
 
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W

WilliamW

Well, the laptop system crashed so I had to start from scratch. The recovery
disks that were made when the laptop was first started wouldn't work, so I
had to install Vista Ultimate onto the laptop. Now ym internet connection is
working with no issues but I still cannot get network interaction from either
the desktop or the laptop. The laptop gets the "request times out" when I
ping the desktop, but the desktop gets a normal response when I ping the
laptop. Network discovery and sharing is on. The only things turned off are
media sharing and password protected sharing.
 

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