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plun

plun has brought this to us :
Bill Sanderson brought next idea :

Hi

We start with this ;)

http://www.microsoft.com/atwork/getstarted/speed.mspx

And of course MS don´t have any registry cleaners ;(

Checked Neowin and Bink, more to come ;)
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Hi

And more, just a question, why was RegClean removed ?
http://search.microsoft.com/search/results.aspx?st=b&na=88&View=en-us&qu=REGCLEAN

About Norton Utilities:
If you intend to become a certified Registry guru, you must have Norton
Utilities. It fills all the voids left by the Registry tools that come
with Windows. You read about Norton Registry Editor in the preceding
section and now know that it provides all the advanced features that a
guru-in-training needs. It also contains a few other Registry programs
that make the entire suite megabyte-worthy. Norton Rescue helps you
start the computer in the event of system failure. It can even help you
recover from startup problems that are caused by Registry errors.
Registry Tracker isn't the sharpest program in the suite, but it does
help you track changes to the Registry. Other programs, such as
ConfigSafe, are better at this task. One of the most useful programs in
the Norton suite is Norton WinDoctor, which helps you fix a host of
Registry problems, including orphans. Finally, Norton Optimization
Wizard helps you optimize the Registry, both logically and physically,
with the aim of improving your computer's performance.


*with the aim of improving your computer's performance.*

;)
 
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Tom Emmelot

Hello Plun,

I quote:
And of course MS don´t have any registry cleaners.

The use to, till 98SE!!
That was named regclean i beleaf and after reboot it defragment also the
registry!!
Was first in the tools of win 95!

Regards >*< TOM >*<
 
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Dave

Much appreciate the suggestions.
The problem was fixed by doing a thorough uninstall,
including deleting a lot of left over files on the C:
drive, and running C-cleaner to clean the registry.
Then reinstalled and it finnaly works without a problem.
That was a relief not having to run a repair-install.
 
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Bill Sanderson

Terrific--glad you got it resolved.

Except where issues really boiled down to damage from spyware or viruses,
I've yet to see any problem that would require repair of the OS from
Microsoft Antispyware.
 
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Bill Sanderson

Sure--I do all that already, and the last bit is what we're hear for. I'm
not sure I'm willing to go read Neowin and Bink at this point--I'm not too
impressed with the track record.

--
 
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Bill Sanderson

Norton needs to sell their tools. Every registry optimizer says stuff like
that. I want to see somebody go out and buld a bunch of VPC's with
identical bloated registries, or a physical image on a real machine, and run
a bunch of registry editors/optimizers against it and show us the results
based on some set of application or OS benchmarks.

I'd bet nobody would lay out a dollar for that stuff after seeing the
results.

Why was regclean removed? I don't know for sure, but issues like this one
may have contributed:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;299958


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Robin Walker [MVP]

plun said:
This was from a Windows 98 Technet article. What I can see
compared to XP nothing has been changed about "registry clutter".
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An immense amount of change has taken place in the structure of the registry
between Win98 and Win XP.

WinXP now has internal housekeeping which (for instance) keeps the registry
files defragmented on disk automatically. Part of this process takes place
during XP shut-down.

For the computer scientists reading, the registry lookup in XP is "binary
tree", which is extremely fast. If you double the size of the registry, the
search time is not doubled, it increases by only one unit of lookup. The
"bloat" makes almost no impact on performance.

Registry cleaners made significant improvements under Win95 and Win98, but
there are now so many improvements under XP that I do not expect registry
cleaners to make any measurable impact on performance.

If you want to satisfy yourself, please do the experiment on some scientific
basis.
 
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plun

Hi Robin

Well, this "bloat" maybe has a minor performance impact but
nevertheless it´s my opinion that this cleaning IS needed to
avoid problems with for example installs and references.

I don´t need any scientific methods to see this hidden mess within
todays PCs.

CCleaner is enough for me to clean up this junkyard within
registry AND temporarily folders AND TIF. Also to set TIF to 40MB
I recommend.

Every damned PC is filled with this "junkyard" and it must be removed.
And the common comment from a user is "Wow now my PC is like it was
when it was new" !

Of course this also is a combination with all spyware junk removals and
I always recommend both MSAS and Lavasofts Adaware.

These "rotten apples and oranges" mixed together causes problem. A
normal number from a 1 year old PC is 1GB with temp files, 1000 spyware
references and files and of course this causing problems. And if it is
a
Home PC multiplie it with the number of users.

If a suser also running "Njorton" this PC is a little bit "sleepy" ;)

IMHO (nothing can change my opinion about this, have cleaned to many
messed up PCs)

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plun



Robin Walker [MVP] used his keyboard to write :
 
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Bill Sanderson

plun said:
If a suser also running "Njorton" this PC is a little bit "sleepy" ;)
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I've observed this myself. I don't think CCleaner will help with this one,
but a different choice of antivirus vendor might!
 
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Bill Sanderson

Thanks--great article.

I sure take away a different lesson from it than you do, though!

First thing it mentions is defrag. Says automatic defrag is in Vista.

I'm not completely certain about defrag in XP, but I think it may be back a
bit from 9.x. Under 9.x there could be a scheduled defrag job. When you
upgrade such a system XP, that job stays in the list, but doesn't work
anymore. However, the defrag command-line command in XP can be set up in a
batch file, and run as a scheduled task--and I do that on some machines.

The next thing it mentions is "slow loading programs" and something called
SuperFetch. This sounds like an extension and improvement on mechanisms
already in place in XP to optimize program loading (via rearranging blocks
on disk according to ongoing usage patterns.) This works, and already
exists in XP. I'm sure it will be better in Vista, though!

The control panel applet for performance and startup items sounds
excellent--large numbers of startup items which aren't being regularly used
are something all of us see regularly, I suspect.

So--I see a bunch of very specific things in this article all of which
should help keep that machine well tuned.

None of them mentions registry pruning/tuning/optimizing. And they don't
even mention cleaning out TIF or Temp.

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plun

It happens that Bill Sanderson formulated :
I've observed this myself. I don't think CCleaner will help with this one,
but a different choice of antivirus vendor might!
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Well, it also helps a "Njorton" user, no need to "crawl-auto protect"
within a junkyard with a mess of files.................

Bill, this is probably as religion ;) I am never going to change my
absolute opinion about removing this junkyard within registry and
temporarily folders. Never ;)

"Reclaim the PC to its owner", totally clean, no tracking cookies,
index.dat cleaned, temp folders cleaned, no spyware.

As brand new !
 
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plun

Bill Sanderson formulated on torsdag :
Thanks--great article.

I sure take away a different lesson from it than you do, though!

First thing it mentions is defrag. Says automatic defrag is in Vista.

I'm not completely certain about defrag in XP, but I think it may be back a
bit from 9.x. Under 9.x there could be a scheduled defrag job. When you
upgrade such a system XP, that job stays in the list, but doesn't work
anymore. However, the defrag command-line command in XP can be set up in a
batch file, and run as a scheduled task--and I do that on some machines.

The next thing it mentions is "slow loading programs" and something called
SuperFetch. This sounds like an extension and improvement on mechanisms
already in place in XP to optimize program loading (via rearranging blocks on
disk according to ongoing usage patterns.) This works, and already exists in
XP. I'm sure it will be better in Vista, though!

The control panel applet for performance and startup items sounds
excellent--large numbers of startup items which aren't being regularly used
are something all of us see regularly, I suspect.

So--I see a bunch of very specific things in this article all of which should
help keep that machine well tuned.

None of them mentions registry pruning/tuning/optimizing. And they don't
even mention cleaning out TIF or Temp.
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No they don´t but in my XP "Best Pratise" they are included :)
 
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plun

Bill Sanderson pretended :
Yes, but now you are talking about religion again : )
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Nope, religion is more abstract then this junkyard that
every user can see with easy methods :)

But maybe to measure the result of this removal is more religious ;)

But I have my faith :')
 
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Bill Sanderson

Yes, but now you are talking about religion again : )
Nope, religion is more abstract then this junkyard that
every user can see with easy methods :)

But maybe to measure the result of this removal is more religious ;)

But I have my faith :')
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I dunno- for me religion better be practical or it isn't of much use. But
we probably shouldn't have that discussion here.
 
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plun

Bill Sanderson explained :
I dunno- for me religion better be practical or it isn't of much use. But we
probably shouldn't have that discussion here.
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Well, our holy God must dislike Hijacks anyway and king Mammom ;)
 

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