Can't copy from an IE7 screen

[Paul H]

When I right-click on my IE7 screen - Google for example - the pane that
appears ignores anything I left or right click on it - I cannot "select all",
"create shortcut", or any other choice that is offered. Copy highlighted
text or paste into fields also is ignored. I use CA Security Suite - I
wonder if that, or some Vista Security issue, is causing the problem. Or is
it some IE7 option?
Thanks in advance,
Paul

 

[Chad Harris]

Not a setup install question.

CH

 

[Paul H]

Where should I ask? I also put this query in "Vista.security". I'm
attempting to make this new Vista machine useable, and this
"installation.setup" seems the best place for new confused Vista users. I
suspect that my questions and the solutions that have been provided have
also helped other readers. I don't want to abuse this resource, so any
guidance is appreciated.

Paul

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"Chad Harris" <vistaneedsmuchowork.net> wrote in message
Not a setup install question.

CH

 

[Adam Albright]

Where should I ask? I also put this query in "Vista.security". I'm
attempting to make this new Vista machine useable, and this
"installation.setup" seems the best place for new confused Vista users. I
suspect that my questions and the solutions that have been provided have
also helped other readers. I don't want to abuse this resource, so any
guidance is appreciated.

Paul

The irony... the only person that could be considered abusing this
resource is Chad.

As to your problem, nope, that's not normal behavior. I just tried and
the functions you mentioned seem to work as they used to in XP. The
number #1 "security" isssue is Vista's halfass inplementation of UAC
(the new User Account Control) which imposes all kinds of nag screens
and may cause some applications to not function correctly or at all
unless the permissions are changed. The short answer for those kind of
issues is go to Control Panel, User Groups, find the spot for UAC and
just turn it off. I doubt your problem has anything to do with UAC
though. Sorry, haven't seen your problem before here or in the general
group and it for sure hasn't been answered a "thousand times".

Does right click work normally elsewhere in Vista and with your other
applications?

 

[Chad Harris]

Albright gave you a purely ficitonal erroneous answer.

UAC could be improved and probably will be but it does not "cause
applications to function incorrectly" a typically witless non-documented
proclamation. No applications' functions have been impacted by UAC since the
Beta birthed 7/05.

The short dumb answer is to turn UAC off. You can learn to live with it
easily, and the only trick you really need to know is that ocassionally when
it wants to lock you out of doing something with a folder>rt.
click>properties>security tab> add the appropriate user and check the box to
give them permission.

Turning UAC off scraps the security MSFT has added in Vista and no one
knowledgable about UAC has been recommending this on any group including
this one althought it's not a setup/install question.

CH

 

[Adam Albright]

Paul H--

Where should I ask? The Vista general group. I think you haven't seen a
list of the groups. Rt. click the toolbar of Win Mail>Customize>Add the
"newsgroup icon">click it>and type vista in search and you'll see a list of
newsgroup categories MSFT set up.

Chad, you're such a idiot. You just fall off the pumpkin truck? Did it
ever occur to you that everyone doesn't use Win Mail that you
constantly keep referring to? Some people actually use real email
clients and news readers, not Microsoft toys.

 

[Adam Albright]

Albright gave you a purely ficitonal erroneous answer.

Be careful Chad, you're skating on this ice.

UAC could be improved and probably will be but it does not "cause
applications to function incorrectly" a typically witless non-documented
proclamation. No applications' functions have been impacted by UAC since the
Beta birthed 7/05.

The short dumb answer is to turn UAC off. You can learn to live with it
easily, and the only trick you really need to know is that ocassionally when
it wants to lock you out of doing something with a folder>rt.
click>properties>security tab> add the appropriate user and check the box to
give them permission.

Chad the dummy he is isn't aware that these check boxes can often be
missing or grayed out depending on application or process making them
impossible for mere mortals to change. Lets ask Chad how you change a
grayed out option or give administrative permission to a application
that has no security tab. Come on Chad, tell how you do that. Put your
clever response right here =====>

Turning UAC off scraps the security MSFT has added in Vista and no one
knowledgable about UAC has been recommending this on any group including
this one althought it's not a setup/install question.

Chad apparently isn't aware that Microsoft has admitted its latest
"security" effort doesn't always work and oh my God... that's by
design! Chad will now explain to us why that is. Go Chad, tell us, the
floor is yours.

Chad old boy, I suggest your visit the general group you keep harping
about and you'll see several MVP's saying exactly what I said and why
they too have disabled UAC.

As far as Microsoft's security, recently they invited some well known
"white hat" hackers to try and break Vista's "security" at a
convention. Nobody but Chad would be surprised that not only could
they, but demonstrated live on stage how they did it, with several
Microsoft big shits standing a few feet away with their jaws dropped.

Chad, on second thought, don't leave this group, you're a riot!

 

[Guest]

When I right-click on my IE7 screen - Google for example - the pane that

appears ignores anything I left or right click on it - I cannot "select all",
"create shortcut", or any other choice that is offered. Copy highlighted
text or paste into fields also is ignored. I use CA Security Suite - I
wonder if that, or some Vista Security issue, is causing the problem. Or is
it some IE7 option?

Starting this thread over because neither the abuse, nor the recommendation
to try turning off UAC does anything to resolve the issue.

What you are seeing is obviously not supposed to happen. Most likely, it
happens because of some add-on to IE that is interfering with operations.
Presuming that this happens all the time and that you do not have a mouse
with a faulty button, I would do the following:
1. In IE, click Tools:Options
2. Click the Programs tab
3. Click Manage add-ons
4. Disable all the add-ons in IE
5. Close IE
6. Restart IE and try again. If the problem goes away, it was definitely an
add-on issue. In that case, go re-enable the add-ons one at a time, testing
the behavior in between. When you find the faulty one, delete it if it will
let you, or leave it disabled if not.

 

[BobS]

Paul,

After reading Chad's non-responsive help and his rant, one has to wonder if
he simply put his mind to providing a suggestion to help you with your
problem - wouldn't he be more productive? I think so....

But that aside, I have read that the Google Toolbar (if installed) may be
the problem you're experiencing. Now you may have it turned off but if it's
been installed you may want to uninstall it and see if the problem goes
away. The Google Toolbar is loaded with many other downloads and you may not
have noticed.

I did a quick Google search and found several posts that may help and you
can do the same. I used "right click doesn't work in IE7" as the search
criteria and that turned up a number of interesting posts. Here's one......
http://www.tek-tips.com/viewthread.cfm?qid=1303764&page=1

Bob S.

 

[Chad Harris]

Paul aside from the fact this has nothing in the world to do with a Vista
setup/install and that it is routine to steer questions to the appropriate
group and has been done for over fifteen years on MSFT newsgroups and I see
it being done right now on at least 50 of the most popular ones by numbers,
I don't understand your question.

When you say IE7 screen do you mean an IE 7 browser window?

If so, why would you be ***right clicking it to select all/create short cut,
copy highlighted text or paste into fields in the very first place?

Taking these one by one--if you have an IE browser window open, and correct
me if that's not what you mean when you use the term "on my IE7 screen". if
you want to

select all>click edit>select all or simply hit ctrl+a

shortcut>simply drag the "e" in the IE address bar in Vista; from the upper
rt. corner in XP

copy highlighted text>ctrl+a

paste+ ctrl+c

If I missed your point, I'm sorry. If none of the above works, I'd use the
"side effect method" to disable all add ins and add one at a time.

If I'm missing the boat on your term IE7 screen which I'm calling the IE7
browser window, please let me know.

CH

 

[Paul H]

Bob, you're awesome!!! Removing the Google toolbar corrected my problem.
You understood the problem I attempted to describe and solved it for me. I
am sorry I started so much turmoil. I believe I should continue to use this
newsgroup until I can routinely use my new laptop with Vista Home Premium as
my primary computer. Unfortunately I'll have to keep my old and unreliable
XP Pro laptop running because some applications can't be installed on Vista
yet. And now I'm gun-shy, because a process I thought I could rely on - the
Google Toolbar - set me back 3 days.

=======================


Paul,

After reading Chad's non-responsive help and his rant, one has to wonder if
he simply put his mind to providing a suggestion to help you with your
problem - wouldn't he be more productive? I think so....

But that aside, I have read that the Google Toolbar (if installed) may be
the problem you're experiencing. Now you may have it turned off but if it's
been installed you may want to uninstall it and see if the problem goes
away. The Google Toolbar is loaded with many other downloads and you may not
have noticed.

I did a quick Google search and found several posts that may help and you
can do the same. I used "right click doesn't work in IE7" as the search
criteria and that turned up a number of interesting posts. Here's one......
http://www.tek-tips.com/viewthread.cfm?qid=1303764&page=1

Bob S.

 

[Paul Adare]

microsoft.public.windows.vista.security news group, Paul H

When I right-click on my IE7 screen - Google for example - the pane that
appears ignores anything I left or right click on it - I cannot "select all",
"create shortcut", or any other choice that is offered. Copy highlighted
text or paste into fields also is ignored. I use CA Security Suite - I
wonder if that, or some Vista Security issue, is causing the problem. Or is
it some IE7 option?
Thanks in advance,

So to be clear here the context menu appears when you
right-click but you can't use your mouse to select any of
the options on the context menu? If so, try using the up
and down arrow keys and then pressing ENTER when you've
got the selection you want.
I've seen this before and the problem was installing the
Google toolbar. If you've got that installed, try removing
it and see if that resolves the problem.


--
Paul Adare
MVP - Windows - Virtual Machine
http://www.identit.ca
"The English language, complete with irony, satire, and
sarcasm, has survived for centuries without smileys. Only
the new crop of modern computer geeks finds it impossible
to detect a joke that is not clearly labeled as such."
Ray Shea

 

[Paul Adare]

@msnews.microsoft.com>, in the
microsoft.public.windows.vista.security news group, Paul

I've seen this before and the problem was installing the
Google toolbar. If you've got that installed, try removing
it and see if that resolves the problem.

Sorry, I should have read the entire thread before
responding. I see that someone has already pointed out
this solution to you.

--
Paul Adare
MVP - Windows - Virtual Machine
http://www.identit.ca
"The English language, complete with irony, satire, and
sarcasm, has survived for centuries without smileys. Only
the new crop of modern computer geeks finds it impossible
to detect a joke that is not clearly labeled as such."
Ray Shea

 

[BobS]

But confirmation is nice......

Bob S.

@msnews.microsoft.com>, in the
microsoft.public.windows.vista.security news group, Paul


Sorry, I should have read the entire thread before
responding. I see that someone has already pointed out
this solution to you.

--
Paul Adare
MVP - Windows - Virtual Machine
http://www.identit.ca
"The English language, complete with irony, satire, and
sarcasm, has survived for centuries without smileys. Only
the new crop of modern computer geeks finds it impossible
to detect a joke that is not clearly labeled as such."
Ray Shea

 

[news.microsoft.com]

Adam Albright skrev:

Chad, you're such a idiot. You just fall off the pumpkin truck? Did it
ever occur to you that everyone doesn't use Win Mail that you
constantly keep referring to? Some people actually use real email
clients and news readers, not Microsoft toys.

Well said, Adam!

 

[Chad Harris]

"The context menu appears when you right click where is the question --on an
IE browswer window?"

What context menu when you right click on what where? I thought the OP
meant an IE7 browser window. I don't understand then, the need for right
clicking and where it would be done.

Why is a right click needed at all for these functions in IE7?

Any problem like this with IE7 if the normal means of doing what the OP
wants to do aren't happening should include not only a disabling of add-ins
and incremental reinstatement as has been said, but always at default SFC
should be run.

Windows Key+ R and in run box>cmd or type cmd in search box above
start>right click cmd>run as elevated>type at prompt sfc /scannow.

CH

 

[Chad Harris]

Paul Adair wrote:

"The context menu appears when you right click where is the question --on an
IE browswer window?"

Paul H--

What context menu when you right click on what where? I thought the OP
meant an IE7 browser window. I don't understand then, the need for right
clicking and where it would be done.

Why is a right click needed at all for these functions in IE7?

Any problem like this with IE7 if the normal means of doing what the OP
wants to do aren't happening should include not only a disabling of add-ins
and incremental reinstatement as has been said, but always at default SFC
should be run.

Windows Key+ R and in run box>cmd or type cmd in search box above
start>right click cmd>run as elevated>type at prompt sfc /scannow.

CH

 

[Paul H]

Bob,
I hope you saw my response to you - just in case, here it is again. And I'd
like your opinion about where I should post questions while I attempt to
make Vista into a trustworthy tool.
Paul

==================


Bob, you're awesome!!! Removing the Google toolbar corrected my problem.
You understood the problem I attempted to describe and solved it for me. I
am sorry I started so much turmoil. I believe I should continue to use this
newsgroup until I can routinely use my new laptop with Vista Home Premium as
my primary computer. Unfortunately I'll have to keep my old and unreliable
XP Pro laptop running because some applications can't be installed on Vista
yet. And now I'm gun-shy, because a process I thought I could rely on - the
Google Toolbar - set me back 3 days.

=======================



But confirmation is nice......

Bob S.

 

[BobS]

Paul,

I thought that was addressed to someone else but here's my opinion. If the
question definitely falls into one of the categories that another group
(i.e. hardware_devices, networking, etc.) then I would try there first since
you have a better chance of someone else already knowing a cure or a
work-around. But if you feel a question is general in nature - such as how
does a feature work - then there's a vista.general group that is probably a
good fit.

But.... I think you'll find a lot of the more critical problems and
solutions right here in this group - and there's a reason why. Setup issues
are caused by "something" - even shorts between the ears sometimes. It may
be that in the end, you learn your setup issue was caused by an errant
driver or lack of a Vista compatible driver. Now by definition - a hardware
driver question should go over in the hardware_device group but since you
didn't know that when you're trying to -setup- Vista - you asked it here and
rightfully so.

Now - with all your newfound knowledge that a device driver fixed your setup
problem, you may want to take a wander on over to the hardware_device group
and make a post about how your setup problem was finally solved and it just
may help someone there to resolve their head banging issue.

Also - if you're making a contribution to the effort (and you are if you
share what you learned), then I would ask my questions here if they didn't
fit anyplace else on the chance that the more friendly MVP's and geeks live
here, they've already been-there, done-that and are a helluva group of
individuals doing their best to help others (MVP's are volunteers). If no
one takes a shot at your question - try it elsewhere or try to define it
better. If the problem is not stated clearly - it's difficult to answer.
Try to keep it short and to the point - don't combine 6 unrelated questions.
You wouldn't try to answer one like that - why would anyone else.

Finally - Google (and any search engine) is your friend and I go there -
first - on the off chance my keywords (or sentence) are hot-spots - such as
your question was. Found the connection in about 30 seconds - shorter time
than it took you to post your question.

Oh yeah - don't worry about the net nanny's. They can't cut you off, add
points to your license for bad questions or cause acne. They're harmless
but very protective of their turf but not to worry - the newsgroup cabal has
got them under control..........;-)

Bob S.

 

[Paul Adare]

microsoft.public.windows.vista.security news group,

"The context menu appears when you right click where is the question --on an
IE browswer window?"

You seem to be the only one involved in this thread that
doesn't grok this point. That is your problem, not the
original poster's problem.

What context menu when you right click on what where? I thought the OP
meant an IE7 browser window. I don't understand then, the need for right
clicking and where it would be done.

So, because you don't understand the need for this it
isn't a valid question? I right-click in browser windows
all of the time, for exactly the same reason I right-click
in other application windows; I want access to the context
menu items that appear when I do so. Why do you have
trouble understanding that simple point?

Why is a right click needed at all for these functions in IE7?

Not that anyone owes you any kind of explanation, but
here's a simple one; I'm at the bottom of a web page and I
want to copy some text. I don't want to have to move all
of the way to the top of the window to use the menus, and
I don't want to use a keyboard shortcut either.

Any problem like this with IE7 if the normal means of doing what the OP
wants to do aren't happening should include not only a disabling of add-ins
and incremental reinstatement as has been said, but always at default SFC
should be run.

SFC has no bearing on this problem what so ever. In case
you missed it, the problem has already been solved, twice
in fact.

Windows Key+ R and in run box>cmd or type cmd in search box above
start>right click cmd>run as elevated>type at prompt sfc /scannow.

Not every problem can be solved via SFC and guess what,
this is a prime example of one that cannot be.

--
Paul Adare
MVP - Windows - Virtual Machine
http://www.identit.ca
"The English language, complete with irony, satire, and
sarcasm, has survived for centuries without smileys. Only
the new crop of modern computer geeks finds it impossible
to detect a joke that is not clearly labeled as such."
Ray Shea