Can't Capture with FireWire or USB-HELP!

[Hand2ThePlow]

I have a JVC GR-D72U miniDV that will not output to any capture program
except Pixela ImageMixer that came bundled with the camera. ImageMixer
cannot detect the camera using FireWire and is limited to a 320 x 240,
15fps USB capture, I assume this is because it is a trial version with
limited features.

I've tried Windows Movie Maker, VideoWave 4 and WinDV all with the same
result, no video or audio captured using FireWire. All 3 program can
control the camera with the on-screen buttons, Movie Maker even
correctly displays the tape position, so there must be communication
between the camera and the computer, right? I've tried replacing the
SP2 drivers with the SP1 (apparently this works with PAL cameras but
not NTSC), I've tried a different computer all without success. The
fact that the software that came bundled with the camera can't even
detect a firewire device is a little bit of a concern but then again
the readme.txt file seems to indicate that it was written for Win2000
and XP was an afterthought.

I've read on line that JVC is not 100% complient with MicroSoft's
generic AVC driver and that JVC outputs in MPEG1 format and either or
both are the cause of the problems. Can anyone confirm/deny either of
these?

When I try to capture in Movie Maker or VideoWave using USB I get error
messages ranging from "XXX has encountered an unspecific error" or Movie
Maker will state "a device has too many occurances to fire from" or
somthing like that. I know that the USB is working properly since I am
able to use my digital camera, MP3 player and USB printer without
problems. Also, I have a Sharp VL-H860 analog video camera that will
output thorough a Belkin RCA-to-USB convertor. The JVC camera will
also output through the convertor using the S Video and a/v jacks but
create MPEG files that are unusable in Movie Maker (which supports the
previous statement about the output format). And lets face it, I have
a digital camera to take advantage of the higher throughput and quality
of USB2 and FireWire, if I wanted to use S Video through the convertor I
would still be using the old Sharp camera.

Well, sorry for the long post. Can anyone help?

System:
Dell Demension 8400
3.0 gHtz Pentium 4
160 gig HD, 92% free
1 gig memory
WinXP Home Edition, SP2
All updates and patches are current

 

[Graham Hughes]

see below.

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Graham Hughes
MVP Digital Media
www.myvideoproblems.co.uk
www.dvds2treasure.com
www.simplydv.com

I have a JVC GR-D72U miniDV that will not output to any capture program
except Pixela ImageMixer that came bundled with the camera. ImageMixer
cannot detect the camera using FireWire and is limited to a 320 x 240,
15fps USB capture, I assume this is because it is a trial version with
limited features.

Generally usb capture is at a low level

I've tried Windows Movie Maker, VideoWave 4 and WinDV all with the same
result, no video or audio captured using FireWire. All 3 program can
control the camera with the on-screen buttons, Movie Maker even
correctly displays the tape position, so there must be communication
between the camera and the computer, right? I've tried replacing the
SP2 drivers with the SP1 (apparently this works with PAL cameras but
not NTSC), I've tried a different computer all without success.

Check out all the items here
http://www.myvideoproblems.com/ProblemPages/CannotCapture.htm
Just because the cam can be controolled doesn't mean it is ok. What worries
me is that you cannot use it on another machine either. I'd look for machine
3 and 4 to test on, try for Win 98 and XP SP1 machines.

The

fact that the software that came bundled with the camera can't even
detect a firewire device is a little bit of a concern but then again
the readme.txt file seems to indicate that it was written for Win2000
and XP was an afterthought.

These apps are designed for USB capture, so no need to worry at all.

I've read on line that JVC is not 100% complient with MicroSoft's
generic AVC driver and that JVC outputs in MPEG1 format and either or
both are the cause of the problems. Can anyone confirm/deny either of
these?

When using firewire it should output the dv signal it recorded. This will
become dv-avi on a pc and .mov on a Mac.

When I try to capture in Movie Maker or VideoWave using USB I get error
messages ranging from "XXX has encountered an unspecific error" or Movie
Maker will state "a device has too many occurances to fire from" or
somthing like that. I know that the USB is working properly since I am
able to use my digital camera, MP3 player and USB printer without
problems.

Movie Maker etc are all designed to work with firewire, not usb.

Also, I have a Sharp VL-H860 analog video camera that will

output thorough a Belkin RCA-to-USB convertor. The JVC camera will
also output through the convertor using the S Video and a/v jacks but
create MPEG files that are unusable in Movie Maker (which supports the
previous statement about the output format). And lets face it, I have
a digital camera to take advantage of the higher throughput and quality
of USB2 and FireWire,

You have a digital cam to use firewire, USB2 will not give the same results.

if I wanted to use S Video through the convertor I

would still be using the old Sharp camera.

Well, sorry for the long post. Can anyone help?

Who knows

Graham