Canon and Verbatim Silver Inkjet Printable CD-R

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zakezuke

http://www.compusa.com/products/product_info.asp?product_code=328855&pfp=SEARCH
#95005

I tried printing these on my mp760... actually on OEM ink (go'way
troll) and frankly they don't seem to be "as" decent looking as the
white printables. Perhaps it's the fact that i'm using silvers and the
dithering is more plainly visiable given the silver background. Not
only do I notice the dithering but I notice very even banding.

Does anyone else have any experence printing on Canon and Verbatium
silvers? Is there another brand of silvers that might look more
decent.

To be honest I just picked these up as they were the only 50pack
available at Compusa, the price was right and I do trust Verbatim.
 
D

Davy

Don't know if it's me, but the silver types feel rather smooth to the
touch the white ones has that sort of rough or powdery feeling
surface.

I stay a way from the silver ones, one way round it is to stick CD
labels on and then print using 'direct print' technique.

Davy
 
Z

zakezuke

Don't know if it's me, but the silver types feel rather smooth to the
touch the white ones has that sort of rough or powdery feeling
surface.
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IIRC the TDKs DVDs are qutie smooth and are quite fab in the canon.
But it's as if the ink isn't not getting absorbed into the printable
medium.
 
F

Fenrir Enterprises

http://www.compusa.com/products/product_info.asp?product_code=328855&pfp=SEARCH
#95005

I tried printing these on my mp760... actually on OEM ink (go'way
troll) and frankly they don't seem to be "as" decent looking as the
white printables. Perhaps it's the fact that i'm using silvers and the
dithering is more plainly visiable given the silver background. Not
only do I notice the dithering but I notice very even banding.

Does anyone else have any experence printing on Canon and Verbatium
silvers? Is there another brand of silvers that might look more
decent.

To be honest I just picked these up as they were the only 50pack
available at Compusa, the price was right and I do trust Verbatim.
Click to expand...

I bought a huge amount of these from Office Max when they were $11.99
a stack. I have an Epson R340 (same ink as 200/220/300/300M/320) I've
only printed once on them though (most of what I print is on Verbatim
printable white DVDs, and I still haven't even tried the Memorex
printable white CDs), and then only a color text label of what was on
the disk. It looked fine to me. I'll try printing a full color label
on them today and let you know how it comes out. I suspect that the
disks are 'optimized' for Epson printers, as the packages of the CDs
and DVDs all have a photo of an Epson R200 on them.

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Z

zakezuke

I suspect that the
disks are 'optimized' for Epson printers, as the packages of the CDs
and DVDs all have a photo of an Epson R200 on them.
Click to expand...

This is a reasonable assumption. My box said no such things only photo
quality. Usually the worst I experence with discs that say "for the
r200" is I have to turn the intensity up to +10 to +20. I suspect
that's due to the epson ink being more dence and the canon ink... I
think i'm being fair here... more watered down.

What I'm seeing... and i'll take the time to scan later... what i'm
seeing is well... similar to the effect you would expect using the r200
on non-printables. The ink rather than soaking into the paper beeds
and you san see the dots, except in my case i'm not seeing sparce
dots... only slight banding like I would experence on some odd ball
photo papers.
 
K

Knightcrawler

The manual says to use only Matte White inkjet printable CD's and DVD's.

I would assume the silver ones are just not compatible with them.
 
F

Fenrir Enterprises

This is a reasonable assumption. My box said no such things only photo
quality. Usually the worst I experence with discs that say "for the
r200" is I have to turn the intensity up to +10 to +20. I suspect
that's due to the epson ink being more dence and the canon ink... I
think i'm being fair here... more watered down.

What I'm seeing... and i'll take the time to scan later... what i'm
seeing is well... similar to the effect you would expect using the r200
on non-printables. The ink rather than soaking into the paper beeds
and you san see the dots, except in my case i'm not seeing sparce
dots... only slight banding like I would experence on some odd ball
photo papers.
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I tried a full color print onto a blank disc, the Epson 'Jellybeans'
background and it worked fine. A few things I noticed.

1) The silver surface looks and feels rougher than the white DVDs
surface. The texture of the disc is visible.

2) The print took longer to dry. I usually use CD/DVD Premium Surface
(which uses more ink) for white printable DVDs, this one I just chose
the regular option and it was still sticky for a few minutes
afterwards - the white ones are dry to the touch (you should still let
them dry out for a few hours after printing anyway) nearly
immediately. So there is definitely something different about the
coating they use on these.

3) The print is shinier than I expected, since the 'clear' matte
coating isn't very clear at all, it's a pretty neat effect. It's not
/bright/, but it's a pretty neat effect. I noticed that the coating
itself will rub off if you touch it right after it's printed. It could
be designed to 'melt' with the moisture in the ink a little in order
to level out and give a 'shinier' effect.

Looks like the Canon may simply be incompatible with the discs. Try
different print surface settings if you can (Transparency?). Or you
could have gotten a batch of bad discs, try exchanging them.

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Z

zakezuke

Looks like the Canon may simply be incompatible with the discs. Try
different print surface settings if you can (Transparency?). Or you
could have gotten a batch of bad discs, try exchanging them.
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Yea, i'll try different print settings. Unlike the Epson the Canon is
locked pretty much into two styles, printable discs (reccomended) and
printable disc (others). I can get a glossy photo or perhaps
transparancy out out of the first attempt but then the software
complaints after the first print. It is as if the in the case of the
epson cd-printing was an afterthought, that perhaps envelopes were the
primary design application, so they just permited all modes. I do
remember it was possible to print via the cd slot without the head
being lifted up. Where as Canon, which due to the duplex unit optional
on the i 865/i965 stock on the pixmas, looks like they actually
designed the printer with that feature in mind.

Thanks for the eval, it does give me some ideas.
 
R

Rob

Knightcrawler said:
The manual says to use only Matte White inkjet printable CD's and DVD's.

I would assume the silver ones are just not compatible with them.
Click to expand...

I am using TDK printable silvers to print on. work fine - I do have
other silvers which look the same brand unknown which show the same
problems these are not printable cd's. You could have a mixed batch.
 
Z

zakezuke

I am using TDK printable silvers to print on. work fine - I do have
other silvers which look the same brand unknown which show the same
problems these are not printable cd's. You could have a mixed batch.
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Knightcrawler is quoting the manual... not experence. I'll have to
give TDK a shot as I have to admit they have my favorite surface among
DVD printables... at least in white.
 
F

Fenrir Enterprises

It is as if the in the case of the
epson cd-printing was an afterthought, that perhaps envelopes were the
primary design application, so they just permited all modes. I do
remember it was possible to print via the cd slot without the head
being lifted up. Where as Canon, which due to the duplex unit optional
on the i 865/i965 stock on the pixmas, looks like they actually
designed the printer with that feature in mind.
Click to expand...

Actually, there's only two settings in the new Epson R340, CD
Printable Surface, and CD Premium Printable Surface. What used to be
'manual' in the R200/300, is now 'CD/DVD Tray'. I can't pick the
surface type other than these two, and Epson doesn't have settings for
transparencies anyway. I just figured maybe the other brand might be
able to override it. I know with transparency settings, printers to
try to make the image more 'vibrant', since without a white background
it looks terrible under 'normal' settings.

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Z

zakezuke

Actually, there's only two settings in the new Epson R340, CD
Printable Surface, and CD Premium Printable Surface. What used to be
'manual' in the R200/300, is now 'CD/DVD Tray'. I can't pick the
surface type other than these two, and Epson doesn't have settings for
transparencies anyway. I just figured maybe the other brand might be
able to override it. I know with transparency settings, printers to
try to make the image more 'vibrant', since without a white background
it looks terrible under 'normal' settings.
Click to expand...

I can't speak for the r340 but I owned a r200.. still do but I don't
use it. I remember very clearly that I could pick any media including
transparancy for the output. In fact, for non-printable discs my
preference was to select transparancy as those dried in about a month.
Also I remember I could pick any type of media and print.... anything
in the list.

The Canon simply is geard to permit only the two options, though I can
get away with selecting "photo paper plus" the first time I print, but
can only select something other than printable disc reccomended/others
for subsequent printings.
 
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