Can you put Pro upgrade over full version Home?

[tiger]

We have received lots of help tonight with our Windows XP
software problem, so here is another question. We have 2
home computers - we want Pro on our new computer, and Home
Ed. on 2nd computer. Here is my husband's question:

We want to put full version of Home. Ed. on 2nd computer,
and then install it on new computer as a base in order to
install Pro. Therefore, one computer will have Pro and one
will have Home Ed. (full version Home, and upgrade version
of Pro). Can we do this?

Thanks, Tiger

 

[Tiger]

Sorry - I messed up original subject line. Tiger

 

[Michael D. Alligood]

I remember reading and, I believe answer some of your posts yesterday. I
just looked back today over your posts and I must say that I am sorry for
the trouble you must be going through! First off, let me say this about the
illegitimate cd -- and obviously you have figured it out, the cd does not
have to be a hologram cd to be legit. The only time you will run into a
hologram cd is if you purchase the cd in stores or from a computer company
like you thought you did with your last computer guy. Here is your ammo for
you computer guy -- if you purchased windows xp from him, you purchased the
cd and license, period.

Now your first post was, "Can I put the new windows xp cd on my old
computer?" The answer to that is no. The problem is not the cd mind you. The
problem is that both your old computer's and new computer's windows product
number has already been used.

So now you are thinking of installing Win XP home edition on the old
computer and upgrading it to XP Pro? Yes this can be done without a problem.
My quetion is, did you purchase an upgrade windows xp professional cd? if
so, then yes you can upgrade. If not, and you are planning on using the same
windows xp cd that came with your new computer, then no.

No here is the kicker to the whole mess. I run into clients whos hard drive
has crashed on them and they need replacing. I replace there hard drives and
use the windows xp cd with there product key to install windows xp on their
new hard drives. It comes back and tells me that this product has already
been register. I call the 800 number of Microsoft and they give me another
key. This has happened probably a dozen times or so in the past year.

 

[Michael D. Alligood]

Please excuse the grammatically error on my previous post. It is midnight
and I am tired... yawn.

 

[tiger]

Thanks for your time. Just to clarify - Actually we are
hoping that our computer guy will refund us our money
tomorrow so that we can go and purchase 2 new Windows
programs (Home Ed. full version, and Pro version) from a
retail outlet such as Costco or Best Buy. This way we
don't have to worry about anything and we will not have
any illegal software. It means that we will have to wipe
our system clean, but if it has to be done, it has to be
done. That being said, can we do it this way?

In response to your hologram CD info, Microsoft today told
me that all OEM CDs must be hologram, but of course we all
know that Dell, EMachines, etc... get permission from
Microsoft to imprint their own CDs. Do you think that he
said this in reference to my actual computer guy (small
time store) because he knew that I hadn't purchased a
major OEM computer package?

Thanks again, Tiger

 

[Michael D. Alligood]

Why not purchase the full version of Windows XP Pro instead of doing the
upgrade path? It would be cheapier, less time, and less hassle...

Do you think that he said this in reference to my actual computer guy

(small time store) because he knew that I hadn't purchased a major OEM
computer package?

No, I do not believe that. What I do believe is that the rep did not know
what her/she was talking about... I am never going to get awarded MVP if I
keep that up! lol...

 

[tiger]

Can you elaborate please - in reference to rep not knowing
what he was talking about? Are you saying that OEM
sources can be burned onto CD? According to the Microsoft
website all Windows products must come with both a: COA
and hologram CD, period.

In regards to buying XP Pro full version - this is close
to $450.00 + tax by itself, and then we still need to buy
the upgrade version at $300.00 + tax (total $800.00) to
put into second computer. We don't think that the 2nd
computer needs Pro as well, so we thought why not buy the
full version of Home for $300.00 and then by Pro upgrade
for $300.00 ($600.00). Want to do everything properly,
but looking to save some money as we might be out the
$160.00 as well for the burned OEM version that our
computer guy sold to us. Looking at all suggestions,
thanks.

Please explain your Microsoft reference, Tiger

 

[Michael D. Alligood]

I am looking at one cd right now. It is a Gateway "Operating System --
Windows XP -- Home Edition" cd. It is not a hologram cd. I
do own the hologram cds as well. And all came with a COA. In regards to the
price of Windows XP Professional, it sell for $299 at Best Buy
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?id=1051806637688&skuId=4272307&type=product

And Windows XP Home is $199. Then you tack on another $199 for the
Professional upgrade. That $400 plus tax right there. Hope that helps!

 

[tiger]

Thanks - you might have missed in my other post that I am
Canadian, so the prices seem to be much higher over here.
Would you know if we are allowed to purchase US software?

Also, here is another scenario since you've been so
helpful:

Can I buy 1 full version of Home Ed. and 1 Home upgrade
and use these on both of my computers (2 different COAs on
2 different computers)?

Thanks,Tiger

 

[Michael D. Alligood]

Yeah, I kind of missed the Canadian part... Really, I am not sure about
purchasing software from the US. I do not see a reason why you cannot.

Can I buy 1 full version of Home Ed. and 1 Home upgrade
and use these on both of my computers (2 different COAs on
2 different computers)?

Do you mean 1 full version of home ed. and 1 pro upgrade on the same pc.
Yes, can do that without a problem...

Good Luck!

 

[David Candy]

It depends on the agreement that your two countries have. The US attemps to make this illegal in all countries. Unlike my country Canada stands up to the US rather than getting the tongue working.

 

[tiger]

More clarification:

1 new computer - want to buy Home Ed. and use as a base to
upgrade Pro (so this computer will have Home Ed. on it
only as a means to upgrade to Pro). Therefore this
computer will use COA from Pro version.

2nd old computer - want to install the Home Ed. into this
computer and use Home Ed. as main os. This computer will
use COA from Home Ed.

I guess I'm asking if I can just install the Home Ed. as a
base into new computer, without registering, in order to
then install Pro version. I will then reinstall Home Ed.
into 2nd computer, but register using the COA that came
with it.

Do you follow? Tiger

 

[David Candy]

That's a breach of the EULA, which you can read by typing eula.txt into Start Run. Anything upgraded becomes part of the upgraded product.

 

[Alex Nichol]

Thanks for your time. Just to clarify - Actually we are
hoping that our computer guy will refund us our money
tomorrow so that we can go and purchase 2 new Windows
programs (Home Ed. full version, and Pro version) from a
retail outlet such as Costco or Best Buy. This way we
don't have to worry about anything and we will not have
any illegal software. It means that we will have to wipe
our system clean, but if it has to be done, it has to be
done. That being said, can we do it this way?

If you get an Upgrade CD you need some legitimate qualifying product to
complete the license - that might be an old win98 CD for example.
Provided you have that to sustain the license you should be able
technically to install a Pro Upgrade CD over the questionable Home by
running the Upgrade *from* the existing Home system

 

[tiger]

Thanks! I just finally read through the EULA and now I
understand. I confused myself and it makes total sense now
that the Home Ed. would become part of the upgrade - hence
the word "upgrade." Duh! It's mean a rough couple of days
here with computer problems, so thanks for pointing that
out. I guess we're back at square one!

Tiger

-----Original Message-----
That's a breach of the EULA, which you can read by typing

eula.txt into Start Run. Anything upgraded becomes part of
the upgraded product.

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[Ken Blake]

In

Thanks! I just finally read through the EULA and now I
understand. I confused myself and it makes total sense now
that the Home Ed. would become part of the upgrade - hence
the word "upgrade." Duh! It's mean a rough couple of days
here with computer problems, so thanks for pointing that
out. I guess we're back at square one!

That's correct, but you can upgrade to XP Professional from
Windows 98 or Me. Do you have a CD of one of those around that
you can use? If not, you should be able to buy a used copy very
cheaply and use that as a base instead of XP Home.

If you do a clean installation, not an upgrade (do you realize
that you *can* do a clean installation with an upgrade CD? All
you have to do is insert the previous qualifying version's CD as
proof of ownership when prompted to do so) you can even use a
Windows 95 CD.