can you ask for the retail version to be installed on a new pc?

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You can ask...and in my case it was done....but obviously I had to pay the
full retail price for the Vista OS

FG
 
Not through a Major OEM.

On the other hand, if you purchase through a local system builder you can
request a retail copy be purchased instead of an OEM copy.

Also building your own PC (if you have the knowledge) would be a way to have
a decent rig and a retail copy of the OS if you want to do that.
 
kirk said:
can you ask for the retail version to be installed on a new pc,
instead of OEM?
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You can try.
Why not just delete the existing OEM and install retail yourself ?
Or even better, create a second primary partition and install the retail
version to that - getting you both vendor and MS support.
Or better still, just install a second HDD for the retail version - so that
there's no evidence of warranty infringement (if so constituted by the
above) in the event of needing a site call/hardware return.
 
Instead of paying for the full retail I would pay the difference between OEM
and Retail...

thats why
 
That's not how it works though.

When you purchase a PC though a vendor that sells them with Windows the OS
is technically included for no charge. That's why OEM rules are set the way
that they are for PC Manufacturers and consumers.

So in order to get the retail version you'd have to pay full price.
 
That statement should be "..included at no *extra* charge..".
The cost of the OEM license is factored into the cost of the system (+ a %),
trust me.
 
It is not technically included for no charge... gesh you are full of
ernoneous information!

I have sold computers in the past... windows DOES have a cost.

Can you please stop responding to my posts.. I dont want to listen to your
bogus anymore!
 
This Shane nokes guy is full of erroneous and misleading information...

practically he doesn't know sh* about computers

He is telling us in the bottom that windows is free if you get it with a new
computer... lol ... He should tell that to Bill Gates...
 
Did you notice that I said through the Major OEM's or are you really that
stupid?

If you order a PC with or WITHOUT windows it costs the same.

There is no additional charge for the OS THROUGH MAJOR OEM's.

Local builders are a different category, hence why I stated if you bought it
through a local builder that you'd only pay the difference.

Through a MAJOR OEM you pay the full price regardless for a retail license.

I think I should know the way system licensing works since I DO actually
work on & off on contracts for Microsoft.
 
Some computer makers will sell machines with NO operating system if you
choose. You could then buy retail and install yourself.
But why are you asking? I thought you hated Vista?
 
I dont HATE vista... I already have vista first of all....
and I have beta tested it longer than many newbie vistafans in here.

I just dont LIKE vista. Its a big disapointment and quality is rock bottom.

I am planing to get a new machine... and I want ultimate retail to go with
it.

Why? I have my reasons... that I dont care to share with you...
 
Obviously as you already know, you can ask for anything.
However what you get is dependant on the vender you choose.
Like most everything else, different venders will have different
policies.
If you get Vista retail, expect to pay the original price for the
computer plus the full cost of retail Windows Vista appropriate for
the version you get.
A significant discount is unlikely.
Locally is probably the best option, but you already know that as
well.
 
kirk jim said:
I am planing to get a new machine... and I want ultimate retail to go with
it.

Why? I have my reasons... that I dont care to share with you...
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That's cool with me. We're all entitled to privacy. I'll just ignore your
future rants against Vista and about how the best future will be the one
that looks most like Star Trek.
 
Shane said:
That's not how it works though.

When you purchase a PC though a vendor that sells them with Windows the
OS is technically included for no charge. That's why OEM rules are set
the way that they are for PC Manufacturers and consumers.

So in order to get the retail version you'd have to pay full price.
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I agree they would probably make the consumer pay full price for a
retail license/OS to be installed, but I don't think Windows comes on
all OEM machines for free. I've seen a few cases where from different
OEM vendors, consumers have been able to get a refund for returning
their OEM copy/License of Windows they get with the machine. That means
that at least some OEMs include the charge of the OS into the full price
for the computer instead of the OS coming free with the computer.

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Shane said:
Did you notice that I said through the Major OEM's or are you really
that stupid?

If you order a PC with or WITHOUT windows it costs the same.

There is no additional charge for the OS THROUGH MAJOR OEM's.

Local builders are a different category, hence why I stated if you
bought it through a local builder that you'd only pay the difference.

Through a MAJOR OEM you pay the full price regardless for a retail license.

I think I should know the way system licensing works since I DO actually
work on & off on contracts for Microsoft.
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Sure there is. What about the fact that comsumers have obtained refunds on
OEM versions of Windows that have come installed on their PCs from Dell and
Toshiba? They are both major OEMs.

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That would be the refunds for people who ordered the express upgrade.

They aren't charged for Windows, they are charged for the shipping in that
case and they are getting a refund for what they paid on that.
 
Shane said:
That would be the refunds for people who ordered the express upgrade.

They aren't charged for Windows, they are charged for the shipping in
that case and they are getting a refund for what they paid on that.
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These examples I cite here are NOT from people who ordered the express
upgrade:
http://www.netcraft.com.au/geoffrey/toshiba.html

http://www.networkworld.com/news/2006/110706-dell-windows.html

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One of your references is many years old and not really relevant.

Also Dell as most if not all other OEMs have always taken returns on
the operating system.
But the OS comes with the computer and generally if you want a refund
of the OS, you return the system.

Perhaps you missed this on the page you referenced:
"It appears this was a unique response for a customer based on the
individual circumstances of the customer's experience and request,"
And
"Dell does not have an official program that accommodates the return
of the operating system. In general a customer would return the PC if
unhappy with any pre-installed software end-user license agreement
(EULA), including the operating system."
Neither of these suggest a refund should be expected if requested
however they suggest returning the system if any type of refund is
desired.

Or do you have a cite that shows large numbers of similar refund
requests have been honored recently?

Someone can always ask, but there should not be an expectation since
there is nothing to suggest there should be.
 
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