Can I or can I not transfer my Windows XP from one machine to anot

[Guest]

My DELL desktop 8100 just died and no chance to revive it.

I need to know if I can install the Windows XP Home Edition Upgrade (OEM) of
the DELL machine (installation CD and License were purchased from DELL) on to
the new machine I am building.

If I can not....then I have PLAN B. I also have an INSTALLATION CD AND
LICENSE of Windows XP Homedition upgrade (OEM) I purchased from a computer
store for my MOm's computer. Can I use that CD to install WIndows XP on my
new machine and validate by using the License that DELL sold me?

Thanks for the help.

 

[Carey Frisch [MVP]]

The license for an OEM version of Windows XP is tied forever to
the first computer it was installed and activated on. If you make a
major hardware change, such as installing an entirely different motherboard,
the license is no longer valid. That is one reason OEM versions cost less...
no support directly from Microsoft.

Your Dell supplied Product Key is only valid with the Dell PC it
shipped with. When your Dell PC died, so did the Dell Windows
XP license. It cannot be used to install or activate Windows XP
on any other PC.

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows XP - Shell/User
Microsoft Newsgroups

Be Smart! Protect Your PC!
http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/protect/default.mspx

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| My DELL desktop 8100 just died and no chance to revive it.
|
| I need to know if I can install the Windows XP Home Edition Upgrade (OEM) of
| the DELL machine (installation CD and License were purchased from DELL) on to
| the new machine I am building.
|
| If I can not....then I have PLAN B. I also have an INSTALLATION CD AND
| LICENSE of Windows XP Homedition upgrade (OEM) I purchased from a computer
| store for my MOm's computer. Can I use that CD to install WIndows XP on my
| new machine and validate by using the License that DELL sold me?
|
| Thanks for the help.

 

[Shenan Stanley]

My DELL desktop 8100 just died and no chance to revive it.

I need to know if I can install the Windows XP Home Edition Upgrade
(OEM) of the DELL machine (installation CD and License were purchased
from DELL) on to the new machine I am building.

If I can not....then I have PLAN B. I also have an INSTALLATION CD AND
LICENSE of Windows XP Homedition upgrade (OEM) I purchased from a
computer store for my MOm's computer. Can I use that CD to install
WIndows XP on my new machine and validate by using the License that
DELL sold me?

According to the EULA with OEM, no.
Technically - probably.

 

[Colin Barnhorst]

There is no such thing as an OEM Upgrade. OEM cd's cannot be used to
upgrade a computer running an earlier version of Windows. OEM cd's can
only do a clean install.

You cannot use the license from the old Dell on your new computer.

You cannot use Mom's OEM license on your new computer if you installed it
already on her machine.

Recommendation: Stop buying OEM cd's unless you are buying a new computer
with the OEM version installed by the computer store. Buy an XP full (not
labeled Upgrade) retail edition. Be sure it includes SP2. You will have a
much easier experience. Microsoft Product Support Services will give you
unlimited installation support and help you with other problems by phone or
email.

 

[Colin Barnhorst]

surely

 

[Jupiter Jones [MVP]]

Colin;
Not entirely correct.
Some OEMs Dell included IIRC offered upgrades to Windows XP shortly before
Windows XP was released.
These were OEM Windows XP upgrade CDs.
They were only available for a short time so the total # in circulation is
relatively small.

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/

There is no such thing as an OEM Upgrade. OEM cd's cannot be used to
upgrade a computer running an earlier version of Windows. OEM cd's can
only do a clean install.

You cannot use the license from the old Dell on your new computer.

You cannot use Mom's OEM license on your new computer if you installed it
already on her machine.

Recommendation: Stop buying OEM cd's unless you are buying a new computer
with the OEM version installed by the computer store. Buy an XP full (not
labeled Upgrade) retail edition. Be sure it includes SP2. You will have
a much easier experience. Microsoft Product Support Services will give
you unlimited installation support and help you with other problems by
phone or email.

--
Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]
(Reply to the group only unless otherwise requested)

My DELL desktop 8100 just died and no chance to revive it.

I need to know if I can install the Windows XP Home Edition Upgrade (OEM)
of
the DELL machine (installation CD and License were purchased from DELL)
on to
the new machine I am building.

If I can not....then I have PLAN B. I also have an INSTALLATION CD AND
LICENSE of Windows XP Homedition upgrade (OEM) I purchased from a
computer
store for my MOm's computer. Can I use that CD to install WIndows XP on
my
new machine and validate by using the License that DELL sold me?

Thanks for the help.

 

[Colin Barnhorst]

OK and thanks. But he surely didn't buy one at the computer store for Mom's
computer.

Thanks for the FYI. I'm sure you agree with me that he needs to lighten up
on the OEM cd's. It's killing him now.

--
Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]
(Reply to the group only unless otherwise requested)

Colin;
Not entirely correct.
Some OEMs Dell included IIRC offered upgrades to Windows XP shortly before
Windows XP was released.
These were OEM Windows XP upgrade CDs.
They were only available for a short time so the total # in circulation is
relatively small.

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/

There is no such thing as an OEM Upgrade. OEM cd's cannot be used to
upgrade a computer running an earlier version of Windows. OEM cd's can
only do a clean install.

You cannot use the license from the old Dell on your new computer.

You cannot use Mom's OEM license on your new computer if you installed it
already on her machine.

Recommendation: Stop buying OEM cd's unless you are buying a new
computer with the OEM version installed by the computer store. Buy an XP
full (not labeled Upgrade) retail edition. Be sure it includes SP2. You
will have a much easier experience. Microsoft Product Support Services
will give you unlimited installation support and help you with other
problems by phone or email.

--
Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]
(Reply to the group only unless otherwise requested)

My DELL desktop 8100 just died and no chance to revive it.

I need to know if I can install the Windows XP Home Edition Upgrade
(OEM) of
the DELL machine (installation CD and License were purchased from DELL)
on to
the new machine I am building.

If I can not....then I have PLAN B. I also have an INSTALLATION CD AND
LICENSE of Windows XP Homedition upgrade (OEM) I purchased from a
computer
store for my MOm's computer. Can I use that CD to install WIndows XP on
my
new machine and validate by using the License that DELL sold me?

Thanks for the help.

 

[Jupiter Jones [MVP]]

Colin;
I hate OEM Windows CDs but I do have several..
You get what you pay for.
Some of the many reasons OEM is cheaper than retail.
Portability, upgrade etc.

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/

OK and thanks. But he surely didn't buy one at the computer store for
Mom's computer.

Thanks for the FYI. I'm sure you agree with me that he needs to lighten
up on the OEM cd's. It's killing him now.

--
Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]
(Reply to the group only unless otherwise requested)

Colin;
Not entirely correct.
Some OEMs Dell included IIRC offered upgrades to Windows XP shortly
before Windows XP was released.
These were OEM Windows XP upgrade CDs.
They were only available for a short time so the total # in circulation
is relatively small.

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/

There is no such thing as an OEM Upgrade. OEM cd's cannot be used to
upgrade a computer running an earlier version of Windows. OEM cd's can
only do a clean install.

You cannot use the license from the old Dell on your new computer.

You cannot use Mom's OEM license on your new computer if you installed
it already on her machine.

Recommendation: Stop buying OEM cd's unless you are buying a new
computer with the OEM version installed by the computer store. Buy an
XP full (not labeled Upgrade) retail edition. Be sure it includes SP2.
You will have a much easier experience. Microsoft Product Support
Services will give you unlimited installation support and help you with
other problems by phone or email.

--
Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]
(Reply to the group only unless otherwise requested)
My DELL desktop 8100 just died and no chance to revive it.

I need to know if I can install the Windows XP Home Edition Upgrade
(OEM) of
the DELL machine (installation CD and License were purchased from DELL)
on to
the new machine I am building.

If I can not....then I have PLAN B. I also have an INSTALLATION CD AND
LICENSE of Windows XP Homedition upgrade (OEM) I purchased from a
computer
store for my MOm's computer. Can I use that CD to install WIndows XP on
my
new machine and validate by using the License that DELL sold me?

Thanks for the help.

 

[Colin Barnhorst]

I have five retail full XP Pro cd's not counting any from the special
programs. I finally decided not to bother with anything else anymore. Just
me, but I can't stand limitations on support, upgrading, etc.

--
Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]
(Reply to the group only unless otherwise requested)

Colin;
I hate OEM Windows CDs but I do have several..
You get what you pay for.
Some of the many reasons OEM is cheaper than retail.
Portability, upgrade etc.

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/

OK and thanks. But he surely didn't buy one at the computer store for
Mom's computer.

Thanks for the FYI. I'm sure you agree with me that he needs to lighten
up on the OEM cd's. It's killing him now.

--
Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]
(Reply to the group only unless otherwise requested)

Colin;
Not entirely correct.
Some OEMs Dell included IIRC offered upgrades to Windows XP shortly
before Windows XP was released.
These were OEM Windows XP upgrade CDs.
They were only available for a short time so the total # in circulation
is relatively small.

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/


There is no such thing as an OEM Upgrade. OEM cd's cannot be used to
upgrade a computer running an earlier version of Windows. OEM cd's
can only do a clean install.

You cannot use the license from the old Dell on your new computer.

You cannot use Mom's OEM license on your new computer if you installed
it already on her machine.

Recommendation: Stop buying OEM cd's unless you are buying a new
computer with the OEM version installed by the computer store. Buy an
XP full (not labeled Upgrade) retail edition. Be sure it includes SP2.
You will have a much easier experience. Microsoft Product Support
Services will give you unlimited installation support and help you with
other problems by phone or email.

--
Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]
(Reply to the group only unless otherwise requested)
My DELL desktop 8100 just died and no chance to revive it.

I need to know if I can install the Windows XP Home Edition Upgrade
(OEM) of
the DELL machine (installation CD and License were purchased from
DELL) on to
the new machine I am building.

If I can not....then I have PLAN B. I also have an INSTALLATION CD AND
LICENSE of Windows XP Homedition upgrade (OEM) I purchased from a
computer
store for my MOm's computer. Can I use that CD to install WIndows XP
on my
new machine and validate by using the License that DELL sold me?

Thanks for the help.

 

[Guest]

FOR COLIN

Colin...the reason why I can not buy a full version of Windows XP is the
most wide spread reason in the entire world. I just simply can not afford it.
It is extremely expensive and do not understand why Microsoft does not give a
break in the price
after so many years from its release. That is the reason also for so many
pirated OS in the world. I can understand a high price at the time of its
release to the market...but after so many years and wirth a new OS around the
corner...Microsoft
can give a break to people as far as using an OEM version on a second
machine(once the first one breaks down) for a home user who is nopt a pirate
neither rich. After all...the outreagous price of 100 dollars for an OEM O/S
is not small potatoes...is still big time money.

Colin;
Not entirely correct.
Some OEMs Dell included IIRC offered upgrades to Windows XP shortly before
Windows XP was released.
These were OEM Windows XP upgrade CDs.
They were only available for a short time so the total # in circulation is
relatively small.

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/

There is no such thing as an OEM Upgrade. OEM cd's cannot be used to
upgrade a computer running an earlier version of Windows. OEM cd's can
only do a clean install.

You cannot use the license from the old Dell on your new computer.

You cannot use Mom's OEM license on your new computer if you installed it
already on her machine.

Recommendation: Stop buying OEM cd's unless you are buying a new computer
with the OEM version installed by the computer store. Buy an XP full (not
labeled Upgrade) retail edition. Be sure it includes SP2. You will have
a much easier experience. Microsoft Product Support Services will give
you unlimited installation support and help you with other problems by
phone or email.

--
Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]
(Reply to the group only unless otherwise requested)

My DELL desktop 8100 just died and no chance to revive it.

I need to know if I can install the Windows XP Home Edition Upgrade (OEM)
of
the DELL machine (installation CD and License were purchased from DELL)
on to
the new machine I am building.

If I can not....then I have PLAN B. I also have an INSTALLATION CD AND
LICENSE of Windows XP Homedition upgrade (OEM) I purchased from a
computer
store for my MOm's computer. Can I use that CD to install WIndows XP on
my
new machine and validate by using the License that DELL sold me?

Thanks for the help.

 

[Colin Barnhorst]

I am sorry that is your situation.

--
Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]
(Reply to the group only unless otherwise requested)

FOR COLIN

Colin...the reason why I can not buy a full version of Windows XP is the
most wide spread reason in the entire world. I just simply can not afford
it.
It is extremely expensive and do not understand why Microsoft does not
give a
break in the price
after so many years from its release. That is the reason also for so many
pirated OS in the world. I can understand a high price at the time of its
release to the market...but after so many years and wirth a new OS around
the
corner...Microsoft
can give a break to people as far as using an OEM version on a second
machine(once the first one breaks down) for a home user who is nopt a
pirate
neither rich. After all...the outreagous price of 100 dollars for an OEM
O/S
is not small potatoes...is still big time money.

Colin;
Not entirely correct.
Some OEMs Dell included IIRC offered upgrades to Windows XP shortly
before
Windows XP was released.
These were OEM Windows XP upgrade CDs.
They were only available for a short time so the total # in circulation
is
relatively small.

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/

There is no such thing as an OEM Upgrade. OEM cd's cannot be used to
upgrade a computer running an earlier version of Windows. OEM cd's
can
only do a clean install.

You cannot use the license from the old Dell on your new computer.

You cannot use Mom's OEM license on your new computer if you installed
it
already on her machine.

Recommendation: Stop buying OEM cd's unless you are buying a new
computer
with the OEM version installed by the computer store. Buy an XP full
(not
labeled Upgrade) retail edition. Be sure it includes SP2. You will
have
a much easier experience. Microsoft Product Support Services will give
you unlimited installation support and help you with other problems by
phone or email.

--
Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]
(Reply to the group only unless otherwise requested)
My DELL desktop 8100 just died and no chance to revive it.

I need to know if I can install the Windows XP Home Edition Upgrade
(OEM)
of
the DELL machine (installation CD and License were purchased from
DELL)
on to
the new machine I am building.

If I can not....then I have PLAN B. I also have an INSTALLATION CD AND
LICENSE of Windows XP Homedition upgrade (OEM) I purchased from a
computer
store for my MOm's computer. Can I use that CD to install WIndows XP
on
my
new machine and validate by using the License that DELL sold me?

Thanks for the help.

 

[Jupiter Jones [MVP]]

The lack of portability for OEM is one of several reasons OEM is cheaper.
If the retail features are wanted, you want retail and should not expect
retail features with OEM.

I would like the price to be lower as well.
I would make things easier with many I deal with.
But that is the price that is set and as other products we have a choice to
buy it or not.
The seller sets the price and the buyer then chooses to buy or not.

As for "That is the reason also for so many pirated OS in the world"
Not correct.
Software gets pirated at any price.
Price is just another excuse thieves use to justify their actions.
Lowering the price will not stop the thieves.
Thieves will steal at any price.
But in the case of software, thieves get some support by those believing
high prices justify their unethical actions.
Try using that excuse and defence as you are tried for auto theft.

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/

FOR COLIN

Colin...the reason why I can not buy a full version of Windows XP is the
most wide spread reason in the entire world. I just simply can not afford
it.
It is extremely expensive and do not understand why Microsoft does not
give a
break in the price
after so many years from its release. That is the reason also for so many
pirated OS in the world. I can understand a high price at the time of its
release to the market...but after so many years and wirth a new OS around
the
corner...Microsoft
can give a break to people as far as using an OEM version on a second
machine(once the first one breaks down) for a home user who is nopt a
pirate
neither rich. After all...the outreagous price of 100 dollars for an OEM
O/S
is not small potatoes...is still big time money.

Colin;
Not entirely correct.
Some OEMs Dell included IIRC offered upgrades to Windows XP shortly
before
Windows XP was released.
These were OEM Windows XP upgrade CDs.
They were only available for a short time so the total # in circulation
is
relatively small.

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/

There is no such thing as an OEM Upgrade. OEM cd's cannot be used to
upgrade a computer running an earlier version of Windows. OEM cd's
can
only do a clean install.

You cannot use the license from the old Dell on your new computer.

You cannot use Mom's OEM license on your new computer if you installed
it
already on her machine.

Recommendation: Stop buying OEM cd's unless you are buying a new
computer
with the OEM version installed by the computer store. Buy an XP full
(not
labeled Upgrade) retail edition. Be sure it includes SP2. You will
have
a much easier experience. Microsoft Product Support Services will give
you unlimited installation support and help you with other problems by
phone or email.

--
Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]
(Reply to the group only unless otherwise requested)
My DELL desktop 8100 just died and no chance to revive it.

I need to know if I can install the Windows XP Home Edition Upgrade
(OEM)
of
the DELL machine (installation CD and License were purchased from
DELL)
on to
the new machine I am building.

If I can not....then I have PLAN B. I also have an INSTALLATION CD AND
LICENSE of Windows XP Homedition upgrade (OEM) I purchased from a
computer
store for my MOm's computer. Can I use that CD to install WIndows XP
on
my
new machine and validate by using the License that DELL sold me?

Thanks for the help.

 

[Robert Moir]

can give a break to people as far as using an OEM version on a second
machine(once the first one breaks down) for a home user who is nopt a
pirate neither rich. After all...the outreagous price of 100 dollars
for an OEM O/S is not small potatoes...is still big time money.

Firstly, I'm not so sure a new OS is "round the corner". The release looks
like "2006, sometime, maybe... and by the way to reach that date we've cut
out 90% of the stuff that made Longhorn sound exciting back in the day".

Secondly, I personally think this OEM software thing is daft, but its
Microsoft's choice to put that stuff in the licence conditions - their
licence for OEM software has always said it can't be transferred, one of the
reasons I avoid OEM software like the plague.

--

 

[Guest]

This question read very similar to my own. However, when searching for my
specific problem I havnt seen it mentioned before. Here it goes:

When booting from the CD (DELL XP Reinstallation CD) on a new motherboard,
CPU, HDD, etc... I am stoped at the ELUA F8=I Agree screen. I am able to
Page up and down and press ESC to exit install...However I am unable to
"agree"??

Is this there something I have done wrong? I have purchased a OEM XP
version as my Plan B...but would rather use the software I already have?
Please advise.
Thank you in advance

 

[Jerry]

The Dell CD you have is tied to the original motherboard. You swapped
motherboards so now it won't work.

You must buy the retail version of XP to prevent similar problems in the
future.

Also, OEM CD tech support is provided by that OEM - not Microsoft.

 

[NoNoBadDog!]

If you have a keyboard that has an F Lock Key, you must press it first in
order to use the function keys. In your case, when the F8 appears, press
the F Lock key and then the F8 key.

It will all be for nothing, thought, as it will violate the EULA to install
the OEM copy to a new machine (which is what yours is whit a new MB, HDD,
etc.).

Bobby

 

[Phillips]

You can transfer some thing from the old machine to the new machine and so
the EULA is not violated; of course, you have to call it an "upgrade" of the
old machine Really, you can add some more RAM, a couple monitors, PCI
cards blah blah and I don't think EULA (life's too short to read all EULA's
that come w/ all programs) expressly prohibits you to upgrade.
Michael