Can 1.5 VCore break A64 Winchester in long time ?

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netx

I wonder how higher VCore can impact on my CPU Athlon 64 3000+ Winchester.
Unfortunately my CPU needs 1.5 V to work with FSB=241. I need exact 241
FSB because memory comes back with 200MHz at 166/200 divider. And it runs as
Athlon~3600.

From AMD homepage I can read:
"ADA3000DIK4BI Model Number 3000+
Max P-State 1800 MHz: VID_VDD 1.40V
********
Min P-State 1000 MHz: VID_VDD 1.10
TCASE Max11 65°C, TCONTROL Max12 70°C "

So despite to other Athlon64 models in my Athlon64 maximal voltage is 1.4V.
But I see that other people has even higher VCore.

So my question is how can 1.5V Vcore impact on CPU ?
Can I run continous at 1.5V?
Lifetime decrease or other considerations?
I need some answer particulary from other OC's.

I must add that my CPU has up to 44*C in maximal usage with Freezer 64.
 
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Wes Newell

I wonder how higher VCore can impact on my CPU Athlon 64 3000+ Winchester.
Unfortunately my CPU needs 1.5 V to work with FSB=241. I need exact 241
FSB because memory comes back with 200MHz at 166/200 divider. And it runs as
Athlon~3600.

From AMD homepage I can read:
"ADA3000DIK4BI Model Number 3000+
Max P-State 1800 MHz: VID_VDD 1.40V
********
Min P-State 1000 MHz: VID_VDD 1.10
TCASE Max11 65°C, TCONTROL Max12 70°C "

So despite to other Athlon64 models in my Athlon64 maximal voltage is 1.4V.
But I see that other people has even higher VCore.
That's the powernow max settings. It doesn't have anything to do with max
vcore.
So my question is how can 1.5V Vcore impact on CPU ? Can I run continous
at 1.5V?

Yes or higher.
Lifetime decrease or other considerations? I need some answer
particulary from other OC's.
Many factors play on the lifetime of the cpu, but 1.5v vcore won't be a
major one. Don't worry about it unless you need this cpu to run more than
roughly 10 years.
I must add that my CPU has up to 44*C in maximal usage with Freezer 64.

44C is good. I don't know what a freezer 64 is. If temps get too high, get
a better cpu cooler.
 
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Ed Light

Wes Newell said:
That's the powernow max settings. It doesn't have anything to do with max
vcore.
Wes, what does that mean?
I tried cool'n'quiet and it said it was maxed at 1.4, though I set the vcore
to 1.5, but I determined with prime95 that it had to be maxing at 1.5.
44C is good. I don't know what a freezer 64 is. If temps get too high, get
a better cpu cooler.

It's an Arctic Cooling monster heat pipe that would be wonderful except it
can shift around on the cpu and the bottom is real rough and convex, so much
so that you can't lap it flat.. But it's doing a good job anyhow on my
Winchester at 2450, with no fan and aluminum tape forming a duct to the case
fan, 80mm at 2350 rpm. Tops out at about 40C, idles at 28C.

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Wes Newell

Wes, what does that mean?
It's the Pstate max for his cpu. And it varies depending on cpu. Some are
1.4v, and some models are 1.5v. Pstate min differs also from 1.1v to 1.3v.
It means it has nothing to do with the max voltage you can feed the cpu.
However, if you go over P-state max (which should be the default voltage
for the cpu), C&Q doesn't work. At least it doesn't on mine. Most of the
data sheets I've seen show a max voltage of 1.65v. But I've run my old
clawhammer core at 1.70v before with no ill effects whatsoever except
about a 4C rise in temp.
I tried cool'n'quiet and it said it was maxed at 1.4, though I set the
vcore to 1.5, but I determined with prime95 that it had to be maxing at
1.5.
1.4 or 1.5 depending on core. Mine is 1.5v.
 

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