Buying a New Notebook - How to Transfer Programs

[Guest]

I am trying to help out a friend who will be buying a new * notebook * soon
and wants to transfer his programs from the old to the new.
I have read other threads here about adding the old hard drive as a slave in
the new PC but since this is a notebook, that will not work.
We are assuming that he only has some of the original media - but not all.

All suggestions are appreciated.

 

[Dave Patrick]

The application installs will need to be run on the new laptop. You can't
move them.

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|I am trying to help out a friend who will be buying a new * notebook * soon
| and wants to transfer his programs from the old to the new.
| I have read other threads here about adding the old hard drive as a slave
in
| the new PC but since this is a notebook, that will not work.
| We are assuming that he only has some of the original media - but not all.
|
| All suggestions are appreciated.
|
| --
| Allan C.

 

[NoNoBadDog!]

Programs, when they are installed, do more than just create a folder. Most
programs will install files in some of the Windows directories, as well as
its own. Many of the dll and routines that install with the program have to
be "registered". Entries are them made in various hives in the windows
registry.

You cannot simply copy from one drive to another, You must install the
programs from their original disks.

Bobby

 

[Jim Macklin]

To the OP, besides having to install from the original
CD(s), the applications have an EULA and may be OEM and or
limited to one machine at a time. OEM applications cannot
be "moved" and other applications may have to be uninstalled
from the first machine before being installed on the new
machine.


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"NoNoBadDog!" <mypants_bjsledgeATpixi.com> wrote in message
| Programs, when they are installed, do more than just
create a folder. Most
| programs will install files in some of the Windows
directories, as well as
| its own. Many of the dll and routines that install with
the program have to
| be "registered". Entries are them made in various hives
in the windows
| registry.
|
| You cannot simply copy from one drive to another, You
must install the
| programs from their original disks.
|
| Bobby
|
message
| | >I am trying to help out a friend who will be buying a new
* notebook * soon
| > and wants to transfer his programs from the old to the
new.
| > I have read other threads here about adding the old hard
drive as a slave
| > in
| > the new PC but since this is a notebook, that will not
work.
| > We are assuming that he only has some of the original
media - but not all.
| >
| > All suggestions are appreciated.
| >
| > --
| > Allan C.
|
|

 

[Guest]

Howstuffworks "How to set up a network between two computers in my home
http://computer.howstuffworks.com/question353.htm

 

[Guest]

That is what I was thinking also, however, I am sure that this type of
problem occurs frequently.
People misplace the media, download of the Internet and do not keep the
original .exe, etc.
Is everyone just 'out of luck'?

 

[Dave Patrick]

Probably unless you have proof of purchase that the manufacturer will accept
for replacement.

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Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
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Microsoft MVP [Windows]
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:
| That is what I was thinking also, however, I am sure that this type of
| problem occurs frequently.
| People misplace the media, download of the Internet and do not keep the
| original .exe, etc.
| Is everyone just 'out of luck'?
|
| --
| Allan C.

 

[Guest]

True enough.
From what he has told me they are not OEM apps and I will definately watch
out for the EULAs.
Thank you.

 

[Richard Urban]

If the old notebook and the new notebook are both using Windows XP you "may"
be able to follow these steps. Even if the old notebook has Win98 on it you
can "try", as it will likely work.

Do all of the below before you ever connect the new computer to the
internet. I know that this is a competent procedure as I have done it
numerous times for my clients (good money there). (-:

BEFORE ANYTHING, clean up the old computer. Update the antivirus program and
run an antivirus scan, run Ad-Aware, run SpyBot Search and Destroy. Make
sure that there are no nasties on the computer. Then:

1. Make absolutely certain that you have ALL of the necessary hardware
drivers for the new computer - every last one of them. Get them from the
notebook manufacturers web site. Burn them to a CD.

2. Get hold of a copy of the latest version of True Image 8.0. Create the
recovery CD from within the program.

3. Beg, borrow or steal a USB external hard drive.

4. Connect the external hard drive to the USB port of the new computer. Boot
up with the True Image CD, create an image of the Windows Partition and save
it to the external hard drive. Give it a file name that you will not forget,
such as "new notebook.tib". Using True Image, verify that the image you just
burned is valid! Now you are protected.

5. Obtain a retail version of Windows XP SP2 that is comparable to the
version supplied on the new notebook. That is, if the new computer has
Windows XP Professional get a retail version of Windows XP Professional SP2.

6. Now, connect the external hard drive to the old computer. Create an image
and call it "old notebook.tib". Verify the image.

7. Now again hook up the external drive to the new notebook and restore the
"old notebook.tib" image to the new computers hard drive (Windows
partition), over writing what is there now. If there is another partition on
the new computer - leave it alone.

8. Physically remove your internet connection from the new computer. Try to
boot the computer. It will not boot (most likely). Insert the Windows XP
retail CD and reboot the new computer. Perform a repair install on the new
computer. This should get the computer to boot with rudimentary drivers that
come with the operating system.

9. Install all of the drivers you initially downloaded and saved to the CD.
These include M/B drivers, sound drivers, video drivers, touchpad drivers,
network drivers, printer drivers, modem drivers etc. - in short every single
one of them.

10. Make certain that the Windows firewall is functional. Immediately go to
Windows Update and download/install ALL critical updates. Then install
optional updates. Run an antivirus scan on the new computer to be safe.

11. At this point the new computer should almost duplicate what is on the
old computer.

12. Create an image of the new computer as it is NOW. Name the file "new
computer 2.tib".

13. The warranty on the new computer is likely now null and void! You have
become this friends computer "help desk"!

What? You don't want to do this much work! Then hunt down the original
installation media for every single program that is on the old computer and
install it onto the new computer.

Be very careful of every manufacturers licensing agreement. If you are going
to clear the old computer (wipe the hard drive) then this is not relevant to
you.


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Richard Urban

aka Crusty (-: Old B@stard

If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!

 

[John O'Boyle]

I am trying to help out a friend who will be buying a new * notebook * soon
and wants to transfer his programs from the old to the new.
I have read other threads here about adding the old hard drive as a slave in
the new PC but since this is a notebook, that will not work.
We are assuming that he only has some of the original media - but not all.

All suggestions are appreciated.

Check out AlohaBob "PC Relocator". It seems like it will do what you want.
J.

 

[Guest]

Richard,

Very interesting!
However, when I finally read point # 13 (below) ...
I do not think that in exchange for the income from this project I am
prepared to become a clients * free * 'help desk' for the duration of his
warranty.

 

[Richard Urban]

Actually, if the new computer came with XP and you install XP the warranty
should still be good. Just don't tell the manufacturer. The only problem I
see is when he calls in for manufacturers assistance. After 10-15 minutes
they almost invariably tell you to restore the system. That's why I
mentioned to make a final image after the job is complete.

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Regards,

Richard Urban

aka Crusty (-: Old B@stard

If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!

 

[Guest]

Hmmm...
How about Dell computers (and maybe others) that have specific information
such as 'service tags' in the 'help and support' area. Would this information
still be intact on the new computer?
The reason that I am asking is that the monitor that is shipped with a Dell
PC is known by the same 'service tag' as the PC (AFIK).

 

[Guest]

Will do.
Tks.
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Allan C.

Check out AlohaBob "PC Relocator". It seems like it will do what you want.
J.

 

[Shenan Stanley]

That is what I was thinking also, however, I am sure that this type of
problem occurs frequently.

People misplace the media, download of the Internet and do not keep
the original .exe, etc.

Is everyone just 'out of luck'?

Yes.
It is the responsibility of the end-user/owner to properly maintain and
secure their equipment and the things needed to work it.
(As with everything.)

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=- Shenan -=<
=- MS MVP -=<

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