Buying a Laptop, (notebook) for a potential University student

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Al Dykes

Not one of the 275+ computers we've worked on at OSU has needed XP
Professional for the students to access resources on the school network.

First, check with the University to see if they have any deals with a
Laptop manufacturer, or if the are (gasp!) Apple-centric, or run NT
domains, which would require XP/Pro (I've heard of at least one
university that does.)

IMO, always get the 3-year warranty, and always from the manufacturer,
never the big-box store.

If you buy from a store, look at the fine print and see that you have
a 30-day refurn privilage with 100% refund. No restocking charges.

These days IBM and Toshiba and Apple are top on my list
Dell business-grade machines are good.

Sony machines are slick but service and support are horrible when
you have a problem.
 
L

Leythos

First, check with the University to see if they have any deals with a
Laptop manufacturer, or if the are (gasp!) Apple-centric, or run NT
domains, which would require XP/Pro (I've heard of at least one
university that does.)

I agree, and encourage people to buy Pro, but not everyone can afford
it, and you don't get a discount if you tell them to ship a laptop
without the OS from the large vendors (they won't ship without an OS in
most cases).

Once you get to school you can buy the bundle and have one of the school
support people help install it.
IMO, always get the 3-year warranty, and always from the manufacturer,
never the big-box store.

The three year Dell warranty is not worth much unless you purchase from
the business section (you can be a 1 person company and still purchase a
business system) and make sure that you get the GOLD Warranty with
onsite repair (or you'll be without the laptop for weeks if a repair is
needed). Gold support from Dell often comes with American support center
access also.
If you buy from a store, look at the fine print and see that you have
a 30-day refurn privilage with 100% refund. No restocking charges.

This is actually the BEST advice I've seen posted from anyone. I had to
return 3 Toshiba 17" laptops to get one that didn't have dead/stuck
pixels, Circuit City has a unconditional return policy - made it simple
to return the ones with bad pixels.

That brings up another issue - bad pixels: Almost every laptop seller
has a policy about XX bad pixels being ACCEPTABLE and not covered under
replacement or warranty - they even allow ones in the center of the
screen to be defective! Always make sure that you get that 100% return
policy and return anything with even a single bad pixel.
These days IBM and Toshiba and Apple are top on my list
Dell business-grade machines are good.

Just don't get the 12" display ones where you have to connect all the
dongles just to use a mouse or CD drive.
Sony machines are slick but service and support are horrible when
you have a problem.

I have a client with a 12" Sony, it's a nice unit, although I would
never buy one, and he's not had to use support once (they pay me for
that).

If I were going to buy a name brand laptop, it would be another Toshiba,
from a local store, open and inspect the LCD IN THE STORE (no matter how
much they complain), and then wipe/reinstall from scratch when I got it
home.
 
J

Jim Macklin

Dell has a nice on-line order and configuration page, use it
first, then call if you have a problem. Be sure to look at
all the options and look for discount codes on-line
(Google).


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message | In message
| >In article <[email protected]>,
(e-mail address removed)
| >says...
| >> Don't get Dell
| >
| >Don't be lame. I've purchase more than 100 Dell laptops
in the last 12
| >months and only had 1 problem - a bad CD-ROM drive.
| >--
| Yes, it seems its between a Dell, (directly purchased,
that is if they
| ever answer the phone), or a Toshiba from Dixons, assuming
they ever
| bring their prices down. This appears to be where the
debate is, correct
| me?
| --
| Derrick Fawsitt
 
J

Jim Macklin

Dell offers the XP Pro upgrade installed for about $80 more
than the standard Home.


| In article <[email protected]>,
(e-mail address removed) says...
| > In article
| > >In article
| > >[email protected] says...
| > >> One point to consider is which version of Windows
comes with the
| > >> computer you purchase. Many Universities require
students to have
| > >> Windows XP Professional on their machines in order to
get full access
| > >> to the University computer network. You need to
check this out before
| > >> making the purchase as getting one with XP Home and
then having to
| > >> purchase an XP Pro upgrade is a considerable
additional expense.
| > >
| > >Not one of the 275+ computers we've worked on at OSU
has needed XP
| > >Professional for the students to access resources on
the school network.
| > >
| > >--
| > >--
| > >[email protected]
| > >(Remove 999 to reply to me)
| >
| > First, check with the University to see if they have any
deals with a
| > Laptop manufacturer, or if the are (gasp!)
Apple-centric, or run NT
| > domains, which would require XP/Pro (I've heard of at
least one
| > university that does.)
|
| I agree, and encourage people to buy Pro, but not everyone
can afford
| it, and you don't get a discount if you tell them to ship
a laptop
| without the OS from the large vendors (they won't ship
without an OS in
| most cases).
|
| Once you get to school you can buy the bundle and have one
of the school
| support people help install it.
|
| > IMO, always get the 3-year warranty, and always from the
manufacturer,
| > never the big-box store.
|
| The three year Dell warranty is not worth much unless you
purchase from
| the business section (you can be a 1 person company and
still purchase a
| business system) and make sure that you get the GOLD
Warranty with
| onsite repair (or you'll be without the laptop for weeks
if a repair is
| needed). Gold support from Dell often comes with American
support center
| access also.
|
| > If you buy from a store, look at the fine print and see
that you have
| > a 30-day refurn privilage with 100% refund. No
restocking charges.
|
| This is actually the BEST advice I've seen posted from
anyone. I had to
| return 3 Toshiba 17" laptops to get one that didn't have
dead/stuck
| pixels, Circuit City has a unconditional return policy -
made it simple
| to return the ones with bad pixels.
|
| That brings up another issue - bad pixels: Almost every
laptop seller
| has a policy about XX bad pixels being ACCEPTABLE and not
covered under
| replacement or warranty - they even allow ones in the
center of the
| screen to be defective! Always make sure that you get that
100% return
| policy and return anything with even a single bad pixel.
|
| > These days IBM and Toshiba and Apple are top on my list
| > Dell business-grade machines are good.
|
| Just don't get the 12" display ones where you have to
connect all the
| dongles just to use a mouse or CD drive.
|
| > Sony machines are slick but service and support are
horrible when
| > you have a problem.
|
| I have a client with a 12" Sony, it's a nice unit,
although I would
| never buy one, and he's not had to use support once (they
pay me for
| that).
|
| If I were going to buy a name brand laptop, it would be
another Toshiba,
| from a local store, open and inspect the LCD IN THE STORE
(no matter how
| much they complain), and then wipe/reinstall from scratch
when I got it
| home.
|
|
| --
| --
| (e-mail address removed)
| (Remove 999 to reply to me)
 
I

Ian Hoare

Salut/Hi Derrick Fawsitt,

le/on Fri, 7 Jan 2005 10:58:08 +0000, tu disais/you said:-
I am currently considering the purchase of a Laptop for my Daughter's
Twenty First birthday and am suffering many hints from her that I must
not choose it for her but that she must have a say in it. While I have a
certain amount of sympathy for that viewpoint, as I am the person
forking out the money I consider it reasonable that I should have some
sort of say in the matter.

So tell her "I've got $xxxx to spend, you choose & I'll pay, but you can add
some of your own money to upgrade, if you want".


Simple.
 
D

Derrick Fawsitt

Ian Hoare said:
Salut/Hi Derrick Fawsitt,

le/on Fri, 7 Jan 2005 10:58:08 +0000, tu disais/you said:-


So tell her "I've got $xxxx to spend, you choose & I'll pay, but you can add
some of your own money to upgrade, if you want".


Simple.
Exactly, total agreement, but that's the theory of it, now what about
the practice, you don't know my daughter, she would "buy and sell you".
You cannot "pull the wool over her eyes", she would see it coming.
 

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