Buy computers in spring/summer ! (At least in The Netherlands !)

[Skybuck Flying]

Hello,

According to dutch law, consumers are protected for 6 months. If hardware
fails within 6 months then the law assumes the product had flaws from the
start.

Computers can die from overheat.

Overheat is more likely to occur in the summer, especially for those living
in houses/appartments which get hot in the summer.

If your computer manages to survive the summer at maximum temperature and
maximum strain... then maybe it will survive a bit longer... there is no
real garantuee though... it could fail the next summer !

However this is something to keep in mind:

When it does fail, return it immediatly otherwise you might just be a couple
of days to late... and then the warranty or law no longer applies.

A nice troll I like this one

Bye,
Skybuck.

 

[Michael]

Hello,

According to dutch law, consumers are protected for 6 months. If hardware
fails within 6 months then the law assumes the product had flaws from the
start.

Computers can die from overheat.

Overheat is more likely to occur in the summer, especially for those living
in houses/appartments which get hot in the summer.

If your computer manages to survive the summer at maximum temperature and
maximum strain... then maybe it will survive a bit longer... there is no
real garantuee though... it could fail the next summer !

However this is something to keep in mind:

When it does fail, return it immediatly otherwise you might just be a couple
of days to late... and then the warranty or law no longer applies.

A nice troll I like this one

Bye,
  Skybuck.

De volgende tijd probeert een " brandwond in test" - stel
onophoudelijk uw computer voor verscheidene dagen in werking

Next time try a "burn in test" - run your computer continuously for
several days

Michael

 

[Skybuck Flying]

I also propose that all computer buyers, and other hardware buyers that have
had a failure related to overheat join me in this new way of buying
computers and other hardware.

Let us all buy computers only during spring and summer, and let us not buy
computers during the autumn and winter.

Maybe this will force the law makers to increase the time to one year at
least, maybe even two... otherwise computer sales would plumit in the autumn
and winter. And maybe plumitting sales in autumn and winter would be bad and
enough reason to do something about it

Bye,
Skybuck =D

 

[Rob]

De volgende tijd probeert een " brandwond in test" - stel
onophoudelijk uw computer voor verscheidene dagen in werking

Een " brandwond in test" ja dat lijkt me wel een goede oplossing
voor Skybuck!

Wie mag die dan uitvoeren?

 

[Skybuck Flying]

But then again, maybe prices would then start rising in the spring and
summer...

Maybe "they"; the evil "overheating hardware sellers" already do that ?!
LOL.

Bye,
Skybuck =D

 

[Skybuck Flying]

I also hope review sites will start doing long term heat tests.

Place the product in a large oven or so... and frie it for a while... at
least at 30 degrees celcius "room temperature".

Also throw some dust in for kicks... to see if that becomes a problem

Then run some state of the art game for 24 hours 7 days a week...

If the product/computer manages to survive 6 months in there then we have a
deal !

Bye,
Skybuck =D

 

[Badmuts]

Maybe this will force the law makers to increase the time to one year at

least, maybe even two...

Zolang jij alles maar graties krijgt he, belastinggeldverslindende nietsnut!

Bm

 

[John]

het mag in deze groep gewoon in het Nederlands hoor, heel irritant steeds
dat Engelse gelul van je....ging he tnou nog ergens over, maar NEE hoor.
Nog steeds dat gezeur over je pc van 1600 euri die oververhit is, ben toch
bang dat het meer aan jou onkunde ligt dan aan die pc...

 

[Skybuck Flying]

Good that your start about that.

When building one's own PC this requires a certain ammount of
experimentation.

Because every PC has the potential to be unique.

There are so many PC components that it becomes pretty difficult for
manufactures to garantuee that their products work under all circumstances
with different components.

However for NVIDIA this excuse cannot be used.

NVIDIA has repeatedly promoted SLI... = many graphics cards right next to
each other.

This is very bad and will surely kill the motherboard on the long run.

Another example is this orientation of the Scythe Zipang CPU cooler.

It can be mounted in different directions... and the manufacturer wasn't
sure what orientation is best... it depends on the case, literally, the
computer case.

Still even this is a poor excuse for Scythe... the number of combinations is
very limited...

Only 4 combinations possible... they could have done different airflow
tests... with different combinations... granted the number of combinations
would rise... but still within doable parameters.

However not everybody can be as smart as me ! LOL.

I hope Scythe learns from this post and from now on does a certain number of
tests for their coolers then they can supply data in table as follows:

CPU Cooler Orientation | Back airflow | Top airflow | Side airflow

Numbers follow here......---->...... etc.

Assuming computer case manufactures publish this information as well then I
as a computer builder could have selected the proper orientation from the
start.

And now expensive-computer-killing-tests would have been needed !

Building computers yourself brings risks.... buying a pre-build computer has
risks just as well... see Dell computers beheheh.

However in the two examples I have given I find that I have been given risks
which are too high and could easily been evoided by the manufacturers
themselfes by proper testing and proper information supplieage

Therefore I believe the manufacturers are slacking, lacking and are to be
blamed !

Bye,
Skybuck.

 

[Skybuck Flying]

Good that your start about that.

When building one's own PC this requires a certain ammount of
experimentation.

Because every PC has the potential to be unique.

There are so many PC components that it becomes pretty difficult for
manufactures to garantuee that their products work under all circumstances
with different components.

However for NVIDIA this excuse cannot be used.

NVIDIA has repeatedly promoted SLI... = many graphics cards right next to
each other.

This is very bad and will surely kill the motherboard on the long run.

Another example is this orientation of the Scythe Zipang CPU cooler.

It can be mounted in different directions... and the manufacturer wasn't
sure what orientation is best... it depends on the case, literally, the
computer case.

Still even this is a poor excuse for Scythe... the number of combinations
is very limited...

Only 4 combinations possible... they could have done different airflow
tests... with different combinations... granted the number of combinations
would rise... but still within doable parameters.

However not everybody can be as smart as me ! LOL.

I hope Scythe learns from this post and from now on does a certain number
of tests for their coolers then they can supply data in table as follows:

CPU Cooler Orientation | Back airflow | Top airflow | Side airflow

Numbers follow here......---->...... etc.

Assuming computer case manufactures publish this information as well then
I as a computer builder could have selected the proper orientation from
the start.

And now expensive-computer-killing-tests would have been needed !

Little typo corrected (now=not)

And not expensive-computer-killing-tests would have been needed !

(I make that typo mistake more often it seems LOL )

 

[John]

Little typo corrected (now=not)

And not expensive-computer-killing-tests would have been needed !

(I make that typo mistake more often it seems LOL )

PLIONK

 

[Dirk Bruere at NeoPax]

De volgende tijd probeert een " brandwond in test" - stel
onophoudelijk uw computer voor verscheidene dagen in werking

Next time try a "burn in test" - run your computer continuously for
several days

Michael

Also known as a "burn out" test if you're unlucky!

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Dirk

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[Brullende Baviaan]

Hello,

According to dutch law, consumers are protected for 6 months. If hardware
fails within 6 months then the law assumes the product had flaws from the
start.

Computers can die from overheat.

Overheat is more likely to occur in the summer, especially for those
living in houses/appartments which get hot in the summer.

If your computer manages to survive the summer at maximum temperature and
maximum strain... then maybe it will survive a bit longer... there is no
real garantuee though... it could fail the next summer !

However this is something to keep in mind:

When it does fail, return it immediatly otherwise you might just be a
couple of days to late... and then the warranty or law no longer applies.

A nice troll I like this one

Bye,
Skybuck.

Trouwens, heel wat fabrikanten geven zo'n 3 jaar fabrieksgarantie.
op het moederbord.

 

[Skybuck Flying]

Trouwens, heel wat fabrikanten geven zo'n 3 jaar fabrieksgarantie.
op het moederbord.

Ja dat is een leuke !

Vooral als ze die produceren in 2000 en dan pas verkopen in 2003 !

Doei,
Skybuck.

 

[Brullende Baviaan]

Ja dat is een leuke !

Vooral als ze die produceren in 2000 en dan pas verkopen in 2003 !

Aankoopdatum telt dan.

 

[Skybuck Flying]

Aankoopdatum telt dan.

Tja bij Alternate denken ze daar anders over, daar hebben ze zogenaamd
geinformeerd bij de fabrikant... en zij hebben daar geen garantie meer ?!?
Grappig he ?!

Misschien als ik het zelf probeer heb ik misschien wel garantie ? Zou dat
het kunnen zijn ?!?

Kijk er zijn twee aankoop datums:

1. De alternate aankoop datum.

en

2. Mijn aankoop datum.

Stel alternate gaat failliet... wat dan he ? Dan moet die datum toch ook
kunnen gelden.

Hoe het ook zij ik ga het bij Asus proberen... om te zien hoe hun daar mee
omgaan.

Maar dan moet ik eerst wel een goed e-mail adres hebben of een goed werkende
website met reply forum.

Het probleempje momenteel is hun website is buggie...

Ik zal morgen eens bellen om te informeren hoe het zit... maar ik vrees dat
de beste man zal zeggen sorry... maar wij gaan niet over "asus"
moederborden... alleen over lcd's van asus enzo...

Ik heb asus al eens een keertje gebeld en dat bleek dus inderdaad het geval
te zijn.

Asus heeft geen vestiging in Nederland dat gaat over moederborden.

Ik heb toen ook nog eens een keertje naar Duitsland gebeld om te informeren
hoe het daar zit.

Kortom ik vrees dat Asus helemaal geen ondersteuning biedt voor de
Nederlandse markt... in ieder geval niet als het gaat om moederborden.

Dit zou een goede reden kunnen zijn om geen asus moederborden meer te kopen,
maar dan moet er wel een alternatief zijn !

Doei,
Skybuck.

 

[Rob]

Aankoopdatum telt dan.

Nou niet bij Asus kennelijk.

Maar dat is toch helemaal niet relevant, want alleen een idioot koopt
een moederbord wat al 2-3 jaar geproduceerd wordt. Dan heb je vanaf
de aankoop al een achterstand op de techniek. Na 2-3 jaar is een bord
totaal verouderd!

Als je dus wat slimmer bent dan Skybuck (niet zo moeilijk) dan koop je
alleen borden die een jaar of korter op de markt zijn. Die worden nog
volop geproduceerd dus de productiedatum zal nog korter geleden zijn dan
de introductie van het bord. En je hebt een bord wat nog een paar jaar
mee kan wat prestaties en technieken betreft.

 

[Brullende Baviaan]

Dit zou een goede reden kunnen zijn om geen asus moederborden meer te
kopen,
maar dan moet er wel een alternatief zijn !

Ik dachtndat de mijne MSI was, maar wet het niet zeker.

 

[Brullende Baviaan]

But then again, maybe prices would then start rising in the spring and
summer...

Maybe "they"; the evil "overheating hardware sellers" already do that ?!
LOL.

Yes they do, just like around christmas.Vakantiegeld en winstdeling
of dertiende maand ;o)

 

[Brullende Baviaan]

het mag in deze groep gewoon in het Nederlands hoor, heel irritant steeds
dat Engelse gelul van je....ging he tnou nog ergens over, maar NEE hoor.
Nog steeds dat gezeur over je pc van 1600 euri die oververhit is, ben toch
bang dat het meer aan jou onkunde ligt dan aan die pc...

Inderdaad , bij mediamarkt haal je voor bijna niets
een vannetje, en dan koelt ie ook wat beter.