Burning C.D.

[Minka]

I recently purchased a HP computer with Vista and I'm having problems burning
c.d.s. Since then, whenever I burn WMA or
MP3 music files they automatically convert to CDA files with a 1KB size
associated with them. Oddly, the CD WILL play in WMP but not on a disc player.

I have tried burning from WMP, Roxio as well as Vista's own burning program.
I have phoned HP Tech support and they have me dancing on the end of a
needle with no results. (i.e. testing hardware...suggesting I reformat and
load Vista again etc. One tech even said he had the same problem but just
game up.

Because I have been quite capable of burning cd's successfully in the past,
I feel there is probably some setting or other small detail I just don't get.

Any assistance would be much appreciated. Thanks.

 

[David Webb]

You may be using CD media that is not compatible with the disc player. Check the
disc player user's manual for specs.

 

[Gordon]

You may be using CD media that is not compatible with the disc player.
Check the disc player user's manual for specs.

Eh? There ARE only two - CDR and CDRW.....

 

[the wharf rat]

Eh? There ARE only two - CDR and CDRW.....

No, there are different dye formulations and different qualities
of media. Some drives are very picky about media and only work well with
certain precise combinations.

 

[David Webb]

And some of the older disc players won't accept CD-RW discs....

 

[Mellowed]

http://www.cdburnerxp.se/

 

[Minka]

Thanks to all who replied but I'm still without an answer. I have googled
this problem and turned up the same issue but no solutions were offered.

Here is the info on my burner if that is of any help. I am using the
correct media as well as light-scribe discs all to no avail. I have no idea
what write strategy means.

CD-ROM Drive*
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------

*ATAPI DVD A DH16A3L ATA Device**Model Number*ATAPI DVD A DH16A3L
*Firmware Revision*8H1B
*Controller*Master
*Drive Letter*E
*Readable Media*CD-ROM, CD-R, CD-RW, DVD-ROM, DVD-RAM, DVD-R, DVD-RW, DVD-R
DL, DVD+R, DVD+RW, DVD+R DL
*Writable Media*CD-R, CD-RW, DVD-RAM, DVD-R, DVD-RW, DVD-R DL, DVD+R,
DVD+RW, DVD+R DL
*Write Strategy*TAO, SAO, RAW, RAW-MS
*Driver*c:\windows\system32\drivers\cdrom.sys
*Driver Version*6.0.6000.16386, 6-21-2006

 

[David Webb]

The problem is probably not with the device that created the audio disc, as I
mentioned previously.

Have you checked to see if the device that won't play the audio disc is
compatible with the CD media you used?

Have you tried the audio disc on any other device, other than your computer's
drive and the other "disc player" you mentioned ?

Older disc players, like some Sony models, and most automotive disc players
could not handle CD-RW disc media.

If none of the above applies, try burning at a slower speed, such as 4x or 8x,
assuming the CD media can handle it.

 

[Minka]

I have certainly tried playing the disc on other disc players. What I don't
understand is how or why .wma files are converted to .cda files in the
burning process. These files, by their nature, cannot be played in any other
device. While each song is 3 to 4 MB, there is only 1kb shown on the burned
disc.

CDA File Definition follows:

CD Audio (.cda) tracks are audio files that can be stored on CD media. The
..cda files are representations of CD audio tracks and do not contain the
actual pulse code modulation (PCM) information. Cda files can be played only
from a CD-ROM. To test a .cda file, either try to play a different .cda file
from your CD-ROM or try to play a .cda file from a different CD-ROM. Copied
from the CD-ROM to the hard disc it cannot be played. This is format used for
encoding music on all commercial compact discs. If you buy a CD from a store,
the music on that CD is stored in CDA format."

I ripped the music from a cd which I had borrowed from my neighbour after
burning a successful copy on her computer using VISTA. This is all a
mystery to me. I have WMP v. 11. Is this somehow involved in the problem?

 

[David Webb]

The 1KB file size shown in the CDA format is normal. These are just pointers.

If you want to burn MP3 or WMA files to a CD burn them as data files not audio
files.

 

[C.Skaggs]

Install the latest version of iTunes, then install the GEAR driver
http://www.gearsoftware.com/support/drivers.cfm for vour version of vista
the gear driver enables itunes to burn on vista
useitunes to import , then burn your cd.

 

[Minka]

Thanks for your response David. I burned a cd-rw which displays all the
songs and their correct size, however, it still won't play in a separate disc
player. The player itself is an older one and may not respond to a cd-rw. I
will now have to leave this until tomorrow because my brain is shutting down
along with the computer. I'll try with a cd-r and a different disc player
next time. Once again, thanks.

 

[meestep]

I have experienced the same problem and have it pretty well isolated
to Vista - but would appreciate any tips to get this to work.
I have two computers - one running XP and one running Vista
I have three CD players varying in age from 10 years, 7 years and 1
year
I am using CDR's in all cases
I am using windows media player as the burning software
I am using the same audio files
I am creating an audio cd

I have run this over 6 times & in each case

the 6 CDs burned using XP will play on all three cd players
the 6 CDs burned using Vista all play on the 1 year old player - 66%
(4 out of 6) will play on the 10 year old CD player - and 0% will play
on the 7 year old player

maybe there is an interaction - but I suspect it is not the media and
it is not cd player

I also varied the write speed on the vista computer down to 8x (below
the write speed of the XP computer) - no change
I have used itunes, DC7 and Roxio - no change

I spoke with tech support at HP - the best that they could come up
with - is that the Vista write format is not compatable with all CD
players

Any thoughts??

 

[David Webb]

It appears almost obvious that if you're using the same software, media type and
burning rate as on the WixXP unit, then there's most likely a problem with the
Vista burner. Dirty lenses could do it. Seems unlikely, but I would clean the
lenses of the device....worth a try. You can pick up a DVD device cleaner (not a
disc cleaner) for about $10 USD.

I have experienced the same problem and have it pretty well isolated
to Vista - but would appreciate any tips to get this to work.
I have two computers - one running XP and one running Vista
I have three CD players varying in age from 10 years, 7 years and 1
year
I am using CDR's in all cases
I am using windows media player as the burning software
I am using the same audio files
I am creating an audio cd

I have run this over 6 times & in each case

the 6 CDs burned using XP will play on all three cd players
the 6 CDs burned using Vista all play on the 1 year old player - 66%
(4 out of 6) will play on the 10 year old CD player - and 0% will play
on the 7 year old player

maybe there is an interaction - but I suspect it is not the media and
it is not cd player

I also varied the write speed on the vista computer down to 8x (below
the write speed of the XP computer) - no change
I have used itunes, DC7 and Roxio - no change

I spoke with tech support at HP - the best that they could come up
with - is that the Vista write format is not compatable with all CD
players

Any thoughts??

 

[meestep]

I tired cleaning - just to see if it would work. No change.
Basically - Vista will work - but only in newer CD players - however
XP will work in all. Vista must be writing the format that only newer
machines can read.

 

[pan2b]

did you ever resolve this issue? i have also had trouble burning cd's...they
will play in my dvd player, but not my stereo. i burned many cd's using XP,
but now that i have a new computer with Vista it no longer works. the Dell
tech supprt told me that Vista has a different format for burning cd's, and
that won't play on older cd players. 'm looking for a way to resolve this
issue...even if it means going back to XP.

 

[pan2b]

did you ever resolve this issue? i've had similar problems using Vista, and
I'm wondering if there is a solution to this issue. I've burned many cd's,
using cd-r blank cd's with my old computer (XP)...but now it's not working
with Vista. very frustrating.

 

[Minka]

No I have not resolved this issue to date. The last time I spoke to HP
support they suggested that I wait for the Service Pack from Microsoft and
then try again. I don't think they know what's wrong. They've wanted me to
reformat but I couldn't see the point in this because that's not what's
wrong....and it's just a gratitutious suggestion. I've read this problem on
other web sites so I know it's not my P.C. ???

 

[SG]

Hi,

Are you sure you are burning the actual file it's self and not a shortcut?
With a 1KB file it appears to be the shortcut and WMP will indeed play it.

--
All the best,
SG

Is your computer system ready for Vista?
https://winqual.microsoft.com/hcl/

 

[pan2b]

thanks for your response. i also do not think it is your pc. i think it's the
Vista program itself. many other people are having this problem, and also
getting the run around. if i decide to dump Vista, and install XP instead
i'll let you know how it goes. or too if i find any other solution. i think
that microsoft should fess up and create a fix for this problem. we should
not be left to research and try to fix it ourselves...
Dell is telling me that it's a software (read: Vista) problem. they've
offered to try and fix it for $129.99 dollars...through their software
support services. but they can't guarantee that it will work. yet they're
willing to sell the Vista operating system with their computers. this all
drives me crazy since i specifically had a Dell salesperson help me with my
purchase...and what i told them i wanted was to play with music and burn
cd's. guess i needed to be more specific...and make sure they understood that
i wanted to also be able to hear the music on my stereo.

there's enough of us out here with this problem...maybe what we need is a
good lawyer...